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India and Israel planned to bomb Pakistani nuclear facilities

where are actions i may ask you ? did they attack you ? launch any Air strikes i don't know about ? Please i am all ears to it .. and its not your decision to make that either i should be allowed to post my PERSONAL OPINION or not .. but that shows one thing that you have no idea what a Open Forum or Open Discussion means .. i should suggest you to go and learn basics first before quoting me ..

No where in those Statements Quaid-e-Azam said that we should not Established any Diplomatic relations with Israel ? unless i miss something ? and please Enlighten me that when you need Spare part for F-16s you go Israel and on back you curse them for what ? just for some Statements ? do i have to tell you about that almost every Masjid in my Area has Israel and US flag painted on the door steps ? or should i post some Statements from Pakistani Statements against the Jews ?

Mr Jinnah talk about Standing by with Arabs , and what Arabs did with Pakistan ? have you ever been to UAE , KSA or any other GCC country ? you are a third grade citizen there , they consider you like Insects and Ajams .. they will only be nice to you when they need you ... should i mentioned what UAE and their ministers said about Pakistan when we refused to Enter Yemen War ?
and talking about Mr.Jinnah like you or your State follow every single " Advice " given by the Great leader ? just like people use Quran and Hadith for their own Good you are doing the same thing with Mr . Jinnah Statements ..

-----and please You don't have to Quote me Again ------ as you don't like my Freedom to Express my Opinion. have a Great day .

Regards

Read more stuff fella, increase your knowledge.
There is ZERO worth answering portion in your comment. I personally enjoyed ''F16 spare parts'' portion. how immature
 
No, nobody should have veto, no country is superior to other countries, all should have equal right, only then you can say that UN have voted for this & that.

By issuing an UN resolution no 182, can world just drive out Swedes from Sweden, you are talking nonsense.

Hello, Before that country was created , it was a country, Palestine and millions of peoples lived there and that place was there home for centuries. Only after this UN resolution millions of people lost their country and you say creation of that country is more legal then other, no that is not.

To drive out Palestinians from their country alot of killing & brutalities happened, hundreds of thousands of people lost their country & their life, just for the sake of one UN resolution no 182, permitting people from Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Russia, Ukraine, Poland to settle in

Why not send million of people from Zimbawe to Sweden , pass a UN resolution and drive out swedes from Sweden and there you have the legality you refers to.

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Interesting, you call Russia and China democracies...

I do not defend it, but the world is somewhat better off with the UN, than without.
I definitely prefer that democracies hold veto powers over dictators.

I repeat, the UN resolution 181 was taken by the General Assemly where each country has a vote
and noone has a veto, so discussing veto / no veto in the UNSC is pointless.

I repeat the original statement that resolution 181 makes the creation of Israel
more legal than any other state existing in the area previously.
 
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India along with its stooges has always planned such activities they also plan such activities even these days , although they dont succeed in doing it on large scale but they do succeed on lower stage like hiring mercenaries and fake mullahs to carry out terrorist activities , and most of the time when they plan large scale stuff , shit like Khulbashan Vadav type happens means they get busted
 
Lets not mentioned what they did or did not for us .. these Arabs were not capable of fighting some rug tags militia when the Seige the Kaaba , they need us more than we need them ... and Pakistan is not Funding any Sectarian Violence in their Countries.

At the end, their funding ended up making Pakistan the most strongest and one of the largest military Nuclear nation in the world. That is priceless considering the state of Middle East while situated next to India taking IOK into account.

If it weren't for their funding, Pakistan as nation would have short-lived. You and I wouldn't be having debate about this.

Now as Pakistan one of the most qualified military nation is capable of defending itself against all the odds including the tackling sectarian violence and eradication terrorism big time.
 
No, nobody should have veto, no country is superior to other countries, all should have equal right, only then you can say that UN have voted for this & that.

By issuing an UN resolution no 182, can world just drive out Swedes from Sweden, you are talking nonsense.

Hello, Before that country was created , it was a country, Palestine and millions of peoples lived there and that place was there home for centuries. Only after this UN resolution millions of people lost their country and you say creation of that country is more legal then other, no that is not.

To drive out Palestinians from their country alot of killing & brutalities happened, hundreds of thousands of people lost their country & their life, just for the sake of one UN resolution no 182, permitting people from Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Russia, Ukraine, Poland to settle in

Why not send million of people from Zimbawe to Sweden , pass a UN resolution and drive out swedes from Sweden and there you have the legality you refers to.

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You seem to have a comprehension problem.
Noone has a veto in the General Assembly.
You are now ignored...
 
At the end, their funding ended up making Pakistan the most strongest and one of the largest military Nuclear nation in the world. That is priceless considering the state of Middle East while situated next to India taking IOK into account.

If it weren't for their funding, Pakistan as nation would have short-lived. You and I wouldn't be having debate about this.

Now as Pakistan one of the most qualified military nation is capable of defending itself against all the odds including the tackling sectarian violence and eradication terrorism big time.

Not Fallen, still King :cheers:
 
Pakistan needs a good piece of SAMs immediately.

Buy HQ-9 medium-long range and HQ-16 short-range due to good relations with China. As soon as possible! :sad:

Also this can evaluate the level of China's friendship :agree:
 
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why they are not attacking
karo na agr apne baap ki olaad ho
 
Read more stuff fella, increase your knowledge.
There is ZERO worth answering portion in your comment. I personally enjoyed ''F16 spare parts'' portion. how immature
A matter of weeks after Israel’s conquest of the West Bank, Al Quds (Jerusalem), Gaza, and Syria’s Golan Heights – Ben-Gurion reportedly made Zionism’s staunch opposition to Pakistan crystal-clear:

The world Zionist movement should not be neglectful of the dangers of Pakistan to it. And Pakistan now should be its first target, for this ideological State is a threat to our existence. And Pakistan, the whole of it, hates the Jews and loves the Arabs.

This lover of the Arabs is more dangerous to us than the Arabs themselves. For that matter, it is most essential for the world Zionism that it should now take immediate steps against Pakistan.

Whereas the inhabitants of the Indian peninsula are Hindus whose hearts have been full of hatred towards Muslims, therefore, India is the most important base for us to work there from against Pakistan.

It is essential that we exploit this base and strike and crush Pakistanis, enemies of Jews and Zionism, by all disguised and secret plans.

Relatively recent comments from Israel’s repugnant, racist Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman corroborate this position, revealing that this Zionist strategy exists as a priority in the modern day. In a 2009 interview with a Russian daily newspaper, Soviet-born Lieberman (born Evet Lvovich Liberman) revealed(6) that he saw Pakistan as Israel’s biggest threat, as opposed to Iran which is commonly painted as Israel’s arch nemesis:

“Pakistan is nuclear and unstable and Afghanistan is faced with a potential Taliban takeover, and the combination forms a contiguous area of radicalism ruled in the spirit of Osama bin Laden,”

In the same interview Lieberman professed, “Believe me, America accepts all our decisions”, an arrogant but nevertheless valid analysis.

On September 11, 2008, former chief AIPAC lobbyist Douglas M. Bloomfield wrote a panicked tirade against Pakistan,(7) insisting that the incoming U.S. President must focus on the country. Bloomfield’s article repeats all of the standard Zionist rhetoric, including the complaint that Pakistan’s nuclear weapons are at risk of ‘falling into the wrong hands’.

Briefly returning to the ‘Atlantic’ map, you will notice that Afghanistan has been disembowelled; the ethnic states of Baluchistan and Pashtunistan have been created, and the northern region of Afghanistan has been absorbed into ‘Persia’. As a result of the secession of Baluchistan and Pashtunistan (both of which straddle the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, while Baluch territory extends into Iran too), significant chunks of Pakistan have been lost. This is part of a long-standing Zionist policy to cripple Pakistan as a nation.

Pakistan is a proud Muslim nation which not only has an ideological opposition to Zionism and Western colonialism, but possesses nuclear weapons. The nuclear deterrent, partnered with a cohesive and loyal army and air force presents a significant roadblock to Zionist and Indian aspirations of hegemony.

Shahid Siddiqi of Dawn.com muses(8) that,

“Due to its defiance of Indian diktat, Pakistan is for India an obstruction in its quest for domination of South Asia and the Indian Ocean region. Israel`s apprehension of Pakistan’s military prowess is rooted in the strength Pakistan indirectly provides to Arab states with whom Israel has remained in a state of conflict. Conscious that several Arab states look up to Pakistan for military support in the event of threat to their security from Israel, it is unsettling for Israel to see a nuclear armed Pakistan.

Again, this analysis gives a nod to David Ben-Gurion’s position on Pakistan – echoed by Israel’s Foreign Minister over forty years later. Israel’s deep military-intelligence collaboration with India(9) is yet another indication of this strategy manifesting.

This strategy was transposed into an overt act of war when in 1984, Israel attempted to destroy Pakistan’s Kahuta nuclear reactor. After becoming aware of the plot, Pakistan spurned the attack by pre-emptively scrambling jets to protect the facility. To this day the strategy continues by overt and covert means.

In the midst of the Zionist ‘War on Terror’ in June 2004, George W. Bush began drone attacks on Pakistan. The deadly attacks, ostensibly launched against ‘Al Qaeda’ and Taliban ‘terrorists’ and ‘insurgents’, accelerated in regularity and intensity from 2004 to 2011 – killing thousands of innocent Pakistanis. The real underlying motive for these attacks is to foment unrest in these regions, with a view to provoking and cultivating militant secessionist groups. The aim is to turn these groups against the collaborationist Pakistani government (which is impotent in the face of naked aggression on the part of its American ‘ally’).

The balkanisation of Pakistan and seizure of its nuclear weapons are the ultimate aspirations of Israel as well as the United States, which aims to preserve its declining superpower status in the face of a growing China. A prominent meme in the Zionist media is the notion that Pakistan’s nuclear weapons are unsafe and at risk of ‘falling into the wrong hands’. This is the very justification that will eventually be used to launch an all-out invasion of Pakistan whereby Western powers will seize its nuclear weapons. The drone strikes, NATO provocations, and CIA-Mossad-RAW black ops serve to fan the flames of unrest, creating the necessary climate for military action and eventual dismemberment of Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iran. The close relationship between China and Pakistan is a significant factor in the drive to break up Pakistan. China’s port at Gwadar is known as one of her ‘String of Pearls’, being of huge strategic interest and allowing for an energy corridor through Pakistan.
 
The legal basis for Israel is a vote in the United Nations general assembly.
A vote where Great Britain abstained.
All previous masters of the territory got mastership through conquest.
Thus You can say that Israel is the only country that has existed in the area
which is based on International Law.

The Ottoman Empire signed away their rights to the territory,
and the League of Nations gave Great Britain a mandate to prepare the territories for independence.
Jew Immigration started already when the Ottomans ruled over the territories,
and the Arabs sent missions to complain at the court, and their complaints were rejected.
The only change the British did was to adopt laws intended to stop immigration.

Get your history right...
@A.P. Richelieu So you are admitting it by yourself? "Those Jews were immigrants or were refugees who came to Palestine and later get an apartheid state with the help of foreign influence"?
@war&peace was saying the same, That situation was totally different from Pakistan where natives stood for separate land.

And
1>You're talking about UN-Resolution 181 but forget to mention about natives and their land (Palestine) in UN-Resolution 181.

2>Check the map and tell me who is grabbing more and more land of whom according to 181? Palestine or Apartheid state.

3>And how many western countries who gave the proposals of a "immigrants state" in Palestine(UN-Resolution 181) and get that "Apartheid state" but failed to recognize Palestine and natives right, but that was also in that Resolution. And still today many western countries don't recognize Palestine?
You can't say justice on stolen land.
 
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@A.P. Richelieu So you are admitting it by yourself? "Those Jews were immigrants or were refugees who came to Palestine and later get an apartheid state with the help of foreign influence"?
@war&peace was saying the same, That situation was totally different from Pakistan where natives stood for separate land.

And
1>You're talking about UN-Resolution 181 but forget to mention about natives and their land (Palestine) in UN-Resolution 181.

2>Check the map and tell me who is grabbing more and more land of whom according to 181? Palestine or Apartheid state.

3>And how many western countries who gave the proposals of a "immigrants state" in Palestine(UN-Resolution 181) and get that "Apartheid state" but failed to recognize Palestine and natives right, but that was also in that Resolution. And still many western countries don't recognize Palestine?
You can't say justice on stolen land.

The history is well known. Persecution motivated Jews to go to the centre of their religion.
Most did not break any law doing so, until the British started curbing immigration of Jews.
Large scale immigration of Arabs into the mandate was not curbed.
When a conflict occured, UN decided through resolution 181 to split the remaing part of the Mandate
(80% already split off into Jordania).
When the state of Israel was legally created, and "illegal immigrants" were accepted
into the society, making their precense legal.
All this is well known, so calling it "addmitting" is trying to force an open door.

The Palestinians were let down by their Arab Allies which invaded.
Jordania occupied much of the land intended to be the Arab part, until 1967.
Without an invasion, I am pretty sure there would be a Palestinian state soon after the State of Israel.

Every state in Europe is recognizing the right of Palestinians to have a state of their own.
The problem of recognizing them as a state, is that there are no defined borders
and they do not have full control of their territory.
These are normal conditions before recognition.

I think most countries recognizes the Palestinian government.
 

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