India an union not a nation, I am not Indan, remark by Tamil activist gets sacked by MoD

[VCheng]

@VCheng

Sometimes I do wonder though....was it all really worth it?....being here in this forum and talking to all the variety of characters here?

For me the answer is simple:

This forum gives me insight into a particular microcosm of the country, mostly younger people who can communicate in passable English and have access to the Internet. These are the people who believe in PTI and represent a sort of triumph of belief over fact and of hope over reality.

For me, it is important to keep an eye on such a useful cohort because of its value in understanding future trends and direction of the country. I used to try and provide useful inputs to see some change in direction, but I have realized the futility of it and thus now observe more than anything else without any overly taxing controversies, notwithstanding the sly thread bans, instigated boycotts and other similar acts of certain wayward members of the management.

 

[DarkPrince]

Oh look, same false flagging wretch is getting butthurt at being asked a few simple questions

Kannada script = Tamil. Man I will NEVER forget that one.

The phases (my interaction with this twit dropped proportionately with each one) went something like this:

1) "Y'allz writing looks the same to me" sez mom's basement boy. ... oops! *ignore ignore! please!*

2) "I luvz the LTTE"...*posts anti LTTE video coz the title (in angilum/firangi) said it was pro-LTTE*....doesn't realise the classic "gotcha" that happened...still doesn't to this day LOL. (or has repressed the memory)

3) *furiously googles + google translates brazenly/stupidly and gets owned even more* + ban by @waz

4) *STOPS EARLIER TACK COMPLETELY (+ furiously gets triggered when you ever mention it)*
5) *switches to twitter copy+paste = 100% reality feelz*

6) *Posts tamil culture (outside India = STRONK, VALID) in one thread....while mocking exact same Tamil culture (inside India) in other simultaneous threads*

Geeeeeeeee I wonder what's going on here....so hard to figure it out

@Joe Shearer @Chhatrapati @Sheena1980 @Trichy @jbgt90 @VCheng @Gibbs @Godman @Tps43 @Mentee @The Sandman @doorstar @M. Sarmad

@GeraltofRivia (This is the kinda stuff that happens with the "dooooodooooo" "notice mah 0's intead of o's" types lol)

What a circus spectacle in the end. Fling some popcorn at it whenever you want folks.

You Tamil Babu's should learn Hindi-Urdu.

 

[ThinkLogically]

Yes, Hindi Indian don't kill Muslim. *Cough Cough* (gurajat riot, Kashmir Muslim)

Please look into the mirror before u spew rubbish

You India are in no position to talk or bargain with China. We are far too big and strong to compare with you.

Only fools like @Nilgiri tamil trick into believe submitting to northern Hindi Indian is good for Tamil Nadu. He is not fit to be Tamil.

Only fools like you think Tamils want independence. Beijing may separate from china but never Tamil Nadu from India.

 

[El Sidd]

Only fools like you think Tamils want independence. Beijing may separate from china but never Tamil Nadu from India.

you are not thinking logically

 

[ThinkLogically]

you are not thinking logically

I am speaking logically. What I meant is that if the probability of Beijing separating from China is closer to 0 then the probability of Tamil Nadu separating from India is absolute 0.

It's funny a guy who has not lived in Tamil Nadu is speaking on behalf of it. All my life living in Tamil Nadu I have not met one person wanting freedom.

 

[El Sidd]

I am speaking logically. What I meant is that if the probability of Beijing separating from China is closer to 0 then the probability of Tamil Nadu separating from India is absolute 0.

It's funny a guy who has not lived in Tamil Nadu is speaking on behalf of it. All my life living in Tamil Nadu I have not met one person wanting freedom.

Politically people have interest in One China and multiple Indias. It makes business sense as well to them. As a human rights activist i would say it will be better for human development if South India were to be a separate country.

 

[Saradiel]

@Nilgiri

These Sri Lankan Tamils desire the north-east region to be recognized as Tamil territory so they could safeguard their culture and identity but the Sinhalese nationalists are opposed to this idea, claiming the entire island belongs to the Sinhalese. The Sinhalese occupying forces is treating the Tamil north as conquered territory and are now erecting Buddhist shrines everywhere to mark their conquest. Tamils are calling for an independent mechanism for war crimes investigation but the Sinhalese vehemently resist this idea and support their so-called “war heroes”.

People normally make a decision based on information available to them, so I do not blame you for the prejudice you have about our country. But what you know is only a fraction of the whole story. I dont know from which state you are in India. How would you feel as a person of any ethnicity if someone comes to your country where your ethnicity your culture evolved and then say everything is a lie and the country you are your people were living in belongs to them and manufacture a whole new history? That was what the Sinhalese faced.

If you are not new to politics in South India, you should know Tamils have an unhealthy level of linguistic nationalism. In Tamil nadu, if you want to win elections, peddling in Tamil nationalism is a MUST, if you do not do that, you dont have any future in TN politics. Tell me a single occasion, where Tamil chauvinism had been condemned by Tamil politicians in TN? From movies to books, politics everything in Tamil Nadu is about peddling in Tamil Nationalism.
A main part of Tamil Nationalism is history revisionism. According to Tamil nationalists everything under the sun belongs to Tamil, Tamil is the oldest language, harappa is Tamil, Telugu came from Tamil, Cambodian temples were built by Tamils, and Sri Lanka was Tamil...these are fantasies believed by almost every Tamil to a certain extent. The root cause of the problem in SL is this. History revisionism. According to Tamils, Tamils came to Sri Lanka first and the whole history should be changed. This is the root cause of the conflict. Tamil nationalists claim that Tamils lived in Sri Lanka for millenia and that North and East of Sri Lanka are Tamil homelands is NOT admitted by the large majority of Sri Lankans.

Have you ever heard about 50-50 demands in SL? When British were ruling Sri Lanka, and before universal franchise was brought to SL in 1931, Tamil politicians had more power, because British favored them. But after unival suffrage was practiced in SL for the first time in 1931, since then problem started. Because Tamil politicians did not want one vote per one man system, because they would have lost the disproportionate power they had with them. So Tamil politicians asked to distribute seats in the parliament in a 50-50 manner where 75% strong Sinhalese would get 50 seats and 25% strong minorities would get 50 seats.

Subsequent Sinhala dominated government saw the problem of Tamil nationalism>>>Tamil separatism emerging and their strategy to overcome them was attempts to Sinhalise them which did certainly backfired. And later governments changed that policy.

No Sinhalese destroy Hindu temples in North, Tamils live and thrive all over the country, but it is difficult for Sinhalese to live in Tamil dominated areas.

Tamil nationalism

@Nilgiri
The Tamils are minority facing somewhat similar kind of situation like the Kashmiri Pandits of Kashmir, only difference is under LTTE & Prabhakaran they put up a deadly fight with the Sinhalese oppressors being a minority unlike the Pandits who decided to leave Kashmir. But after the death of Prabhakaran & crack down there are only voices trying to get support by spreading in such forums. People like this moron come & try to flame the Tamil separatism & try to dramatize the non existent oppression of Tamils in India.

Your example does not fit in Lankan scenario. In Lankan scenario, Tamil nationalists are separatists who are supported by neighbouring TN and was funded trained militarily by neighbouring India.

Muslims live all over India but Kashmiri Hindus are not allowed or safe in Kashmir, in SL, Tamils live all over SL but Sinhalese are not allowed there.

 

[Nilgiri]

@Nilgiri
This guy is trying to spread his same old stupid rhetoric. His job is only to find some controversial subject in Tamil Nadu or India & try connect or paint it as his delusional separatism movement. He could be a Sri Lankan Tamil who has no homeland. He's angry with India because India is not helping the Tamils for their cause in Sri Lanka. This is the bare truth.

If his story has some reality then everybody here will be running a story of Separate country for Kerala, for Karnataka, Maharashtra, Goa, West Bengal, etc. This guy must be a sympathizer for LTTE & Prabhakaran. He could even be a wanted terrorist living in hiding who could be executed if he goes back to Sri Lanka. And because he can't do anything, he is trying hard to sell his stories like Tamils want a separate land, so he can get some support & a bigger force to fight the Srilankan cause & Sinhalese.

These Sri Lankan Tamils desire the north-east region to be recognized as Tamil territory so they could safeguard their culture and identity but the Sinhalese nationalists are opposed to this idea, claiming the entire island belongs to the Sinhalese. The Sinhalese occupying forces is treating the Tamil north as conquered territory and are now erecting Buddhist shrines everywhere to mark their conquest. Tamils are calling for an independent mechanism for war crimes investigation but the Sinhalese vehemently resist this idea and support their so-called “war heroes”.

The problem of Sri Lanka is their internal problem, we have nothing to do with it. We can sympathize & voice the atrocities diplomatically. Definitely you will find a handful obsessed & illiterate people in Tamil Nadu also, but there are no takers for such bullshit in India. When the war was happening, many Sri Lankan Tamils left and immigrated to another country in the early 90's.

So one person from one particular socioeconomic and regional background should never be the spokesperson of an entire community who has no citizenship of another region. The day Sri Lanka decides to join India, this problem can become India's problem. It may subside & be solved over time if they accede to India which is their own call, we are not forcing or planning to annex Sri Lanka.

So such landless refugees without their own country & who cannot get Indian citizenship keep spreading these propaganda across the world. If this was true, then you may have found so many international media talking about it like Kashmir.

The Tamils are minority facing somewhat similar kind of situation like the Kashmiri Pandits of Kashmir, only difference is under LTTE & Prabhakaran they put up a deadly fight with the Sinhalese oppressors being a minority unlike the Pandits who decided to leave Kashmir. But after the death of Prabhakaran & crack down there are only voices trying to get support by spreading in such forums. People like this moron come & try to flame the Tamil separatism & try to dramatize the non existent oppression of Tamils in India.

Sri lankans are generally good & friendly people. I have lived & worked with them when I have lived abroad. They are quite humble & similar mindset people like us, unlike Pakistanis. Srilankans have much more admiration for India & common men don't have any hatred for India. Their culture is also closer to India with Buddhism & Hinduism. As per history the Sinhalese are descendants of settlers who came to the island in 543 BCE from Sinhapura, in India, led by Prince Vijaya. Sri Lankan traditional or ethnic costume is similar to Indians. Even their script has similarities with Kannada & Telugu. Just giving the actual scenario due to this cartoon.

She goes around India to campaign for the caste & honor Killing. One such event in Hyderabad posted above. Honestly nobody cares for her even media as she doesn't know Hindi or any other language & can barely speak English, so you won't find her videos online, unless you search regional languages & know which event was conducted in which place. This one video will expose this guys utter bullshit.

Flip side of Kausalya & Shakti.

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I'd give you a + rating, well posted. I agree with most of it for sure. My earlier post had some sarcasm in it (in parts) to try goad something out of manlion the idiot lol (so don't take it 100% serious...though I put in some truths in there too)....he didn't quite bite this time (instead craftily deflecting to showing he stalks me and @Joe Shearer )....he is learning a little bit (coz of the whackings I gave him long ago).

You Tamil Babu's should learn Hindi-Urdu.

You assume I didn't? Bad assumption!

 

[Joe Shearer]

People normally make a decision based on information available to them, so I do not blame you for the prejudice you have about our country. But what you know is only a fraction of the whole story. I dont know from which state you are in India. How would you feel as a person of any ethnicity if someone comes to your country where your ethnicity your culture evolved and then say everything is a lie and the country you are your people were living in belongs to them and manufacture a whole new history? That was what the Sinhalese faced.

That is, of course, based on the Jaffna Tamils being migrants from India and not indigenous.

If you are not new to politics in South India, you should know Tamils have an unhealthy level of linguistic nationalism. In Tamil nadu, if you want to win elections, peddling in Tamil nationalism is a MUST, if you do not do that, you dont have any future in TN politics. Tell me a single occasion, where Tamil chauvinism had been condemned by Tamil politicians in TN? From movies to books, politics everything in Tamil Nadu is about peddling in Tamil Nationalism.

Wouldn't your statements be equally true if we were to substitute Sinhalese, Sinhala, for Tamil above?

A main part of Tamil Nationalism is history revisionism. According to Tamil nationalists everything under the sun belongs to Tamil, Tamil is the oldest language, harappa is Tamil, Telugu came from Tamil, Cambodian temples were built by Tamils, and Sri Lanka was Tamil...these are fantasies believed by almost every Tamil to a certain extent.

umm....aren't you a little overwrought? Shouldn't you be writing this in a calmer, more contemplative mood?

everything under the sun belongs to Tamil

Hyperbolic, almost a politician's speech fragment;

Tamil is the oldest language

True in south Asia, as it happens

harappa is Tamil

Most probably, but you perhaps know this already and added it to make a greater display and shock the ill-read and ignorant

Telugu came from Tamil

Shocking. They are merely both Dravidian languages.

Cambodian temples were built by Tamils

Under Tamil cultural influence, I'm sorry to inform you

Sri Lanka was Tamil

There is a school of thought among academicians that believes so

The root cause of the problem in SL is this. History revisionism. According to Tamils, Tamils came to Sri Lanka first and the whole history should be changed. This is the root cause of the conflict. Tamil nationalists claim that Tamils lived in Sri Lanka for millenia and that North and East of Sri Lanka are Tamil homelands is NOT admitted by the large majority of Sri Lankans.

You mean the large majority of Sri Lankans are more in number, hence they must be right?

Have you ever heard about 50-50 demands in SL? When British were ruling Sri Lanka, and before universal franchise was brought to SL in 1931, Tamil politicians had more power, because British favored them. But after unival suffrage was practiced in SL for the first time in 1931, since then problem started. Because Tamil politicians did not want one vote per one man system, because they would have lost the disproportionate power they had with them. So Tamil politicians asked to distribute seats in the parliament in a 50-50 manner where 75% strong Sinhalese would get 50 seats and 25% strong minorities would get 50 seats.

Please look up consociationalism. This, by the way, is what might have resolved the Muslim quest for equality in India. It was the direction in which the Muslim League was moving, before Congress exasperation at Muslim League intransigence during a period of experimental joint administration in the UP drove them to reject the Muslim League post-independence constitutional suggestions and forced the Muslim League to fall back on partition.

Subsequent Sinhala dominated government saw the problem of Tamil nationalism>>>Tamil separatism emerging and their strategy to overcome them was attempts to Sinhalise them which did certainly backfired. And later governments changed that policy.

Perhaps these should be reversed. Perhaps it should be recognised that this was cause, and Tamil intransigence was effect.

No Sinhalese destroy Hindu temples in North, Tamils live and thrive all over the country, but it is difficult for Sinhalese to live in Tamil dominated areas.

If you say so.

Tamil nationalism

We have idiots like this in India too. Unless one is looking for a fight, they are harmless. Look up Vaiko, a Tamil politician in Tamil Nadu, and a perfect idiot.

Your example does not fit in Lankan scenario. In Lankan scenario, Tamil nationalists are separatists who are supported by neighbouring TN and was funded trained militarily by neighbouring India.

And this is scripture, and none allowed to change it? Interesting.

Muslims live all over India but Kashmiri Hindus are not allowed or safe in Kashmir, in SL, Tamils live all over SL but Sinhalese are not allowed there.

Have to acknowledge your delicacy of touch.

 

[Nilgiri]

Look up Vaiko, a Tamil politician in Tamil Nadu, and a perfect idiot.

Hahahahaha....the jokes my folks and I have made about that clown. Won't repeat them here....but you brought up some nostalgia in me joe. Thanks.

 

[Nilgiri]

This kinda reminds me of another false flagger we had 2 years back @Zibago remember that ferrari guy?

Oh that trucker was a class act
Pro trump and pro baboon me and mah buddies smoked him good
At least he had the guts to reply unlike some who can't even form coherent arguments @Champion_Usmani

Who are we talking about btw. "Trucker"....any of his posts remaining here?

I agree champ usmani is really dreary. Manlion mixes things up a bit at least.....usmani just spam posts a thread with like 100 tweets one after the other....all in urdu text too sometimes. WTF lol.

 

[Zibago]

Who are we talking about btw. "Trucker"....any of his posts remaining here?

I agree champ usmani is really dreary. Manlion mixes things up a bit at least.....usmani just spam posts a thread with like 100 tweets one after the other....all in urdu text too sometimes. WTF lol.

The bloke was called viper001 if i remember correctly

 

[manlion]

No Sinhalese destroy Hindu temples in North, Tamils live and thrive all over the country, but it is difficult for Sinhalese to live in Tamil dominated areas.

Hindu Kovils (temples) damaged in the NE of Sri Lanka

Please see the number of Hindu temples destroyed or damaged in the Northern and Eastern Provinces of Sri Lanka. Some of them were destroyed during the conflict, but others were deliberately destroyed by the Sinhalese army.

This is an analysis of the destruction of the temples.
Total names of damaged temples given in this list = 1342
Total number of temples destroyed in the NorthEast = 2076

According to the Ministry of Hindu Religious and Cultural Affairs – 04/10/1993
Number of registered Temples = 1607
Number of damaged Temples = 1479
Estimated cost of Repairs/Re-building in rupees = 283,091,292.00

http://www.globalnewscentre.com/hin...north-east-of-sri-lanka/#sthash.licCXFiv.dpbs

Destruction of Hindu Temples in Sri Lanka
http://www.hinduhumanrights.info/destruction-of-hindu-temples-in-sri-lanka/

Cambodian temples were built by Tamils

The “Indo” in Indochina – How much of Southeast Asian culture derives from the subcontinent ?
BY WILLIAM FEINBERG | JUNE 29, 2015

Indeed many cultural traits that are today shared by different Southeast Asian nations are in fact derived from the Pallava and Chola expansion eastward and the cultural mixing that happened in the following centuries.

The kings of Angkor also adopted the suffix – varman (i.e. Suryavarman II, Jayavarman VII), a name that was popular with the Pallava royals and traced their lineage to a wandering Pallava prince

http://www.eastbysoutheast.com/tag/pallava/

 

[samv]

That is, of course, based on the Jaffna Tamils being migrants from India and not indigenous.



Wouldn't your statements be equally true if we were to substitute Sinhalese, Sinhala, for Tamil above?



umm....aren't you a little overwrought? Shouldn't you be writing this in a calmer, more contemplative mood?

Hyperbolic, almost a politician's speech fragment;

True in south Asia, as it happens

Most probably, but you perhaps know this already and added it to make a greater display and shock the ill-read and ignorant

Shocking. They are merely both Dravidian languages.

Under Tamil cultural influence, I'm sorry to inform you

There is a school of thought among academicians that believes so



You mean the large majority of Sri Lankans are more in number, hence they must be right?



Please look up consociationalism. This, by the way, is what might have resolved the Muslim quest for equality in India. It was the direction in which the Muslim League was moving, before Congress exasperation at Muslim League intransigence during a period of experimental joint administration in the UP drove them to reject the Muslim League post-independence constitutional suggestions and forced the Muslim League to fall back on partition.



Perhaps these should be reversed. Perhaps it should be recognised that this was cause, and Tamil intransigence was effect.



If you say so.



We have idiots like this in India too. Unless one is looking for a fight, they are harmless. Look up Vaiko, a Tamil politician in Tamil Nadu, and a perfect idiot.



And this is scripture, and none allowed to change it? Interesting.



Have to acknowledge your delicacy of touch.

If Tamils are not happy in Sri Lanka they are most welcome to go back to Tamil Nadu which is their homeland. Sri Lanka is the homeland of the Sinhalese people and any attempts by Tamils to steal Sinhalese land and claim it as theirs will be challenged. The latest attempt by Tamils to steal Sinhalese land and claim it as their was defeated, and Prabhakaran ended up with a machete to his head and a hot poker up his butthole. Tamils can do whatever they like in Tamil Nadu, but the moment they start their separatist shit in Sri Lanka they will be challenged.

 

[Joe Shearer]

If Tamils are not happy in Sri Lanka they are most welcome to go back to Tamil Nadu which is their homeland. Sri Lanka is the homeland of the Sinhalese people and any attempts by Tamils to steal Sinhalese land and claim it as theirs will be challenged. The latest attempt by Tamils to steal Sinhalese land and claim it as their was defeated, and Prabhakaran ended up with a machete to his head and a hot poker up his butthole. Tamils can do whatever they like in Tamil Nadu, but the moment they start their separatist shit in Sri Lanka they will be challenged.

....and it is futile to resist the ongoing march of Sinhala civilisation.

Got it.

In line with

1. If Muslims don't like how things are for them in India, why don't they go to Pakistan?
2. Insert as pleased.

Very majoritarian; very accommodating. Try to think things through in terms of the reverse threat.