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India admits Doklam now fully under PLA control

Never underestimate an escalation bhai, if we kill 300 Indian soldiers, India will counterattack and we will counter attack and this will lead to a full scale war. No laughing matter there.
I won't smile when it is regarding the life of a few thousand soldiers. We make artileries by the hundreds, you import, do you know what this means?

do we have road yet? or this thread is just another case of premature cheerleading?
We have helipads, bunkers, ammunitions stores and 1800 soldiers plus a grade40 road all the way to Doka La covering the whole plateau.:enjoy:

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At Doklam, Chinese troop levels rise at feverish pace even as temperatures dip

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Troop buildup near Doklam increased in November-end, fresh satellite images show; additional mortar positions, a gun position, vehicles, troop accommodation now visible.

A Chinese buildup of troops and military infrastructure near the contentious Doklam plateau has gained pace in November, with fresh satellite images showing new mortar positions, hardening of gun positions and evidence that more than 5,000 troops could be deployed within 5-10 km of the conflict point.

The buildup can be seen in latest satellite imagery of 3 December that has been accessed by ThePrint. The deployment seems to have increased since the resolution in August when both Indian and Chinese troops backed off from a road construction site in Doklam after a tense standoff that lasted more than two months.

The significant buildup is visible at several locations southwest of Yadong town, all within a 5-10 km aerial distance from the spot where Indian and Chinese troops had faced off earlier this year. This presence of almost nine battalions is in addition to the troops that China has deployed just 50 km behind in the Chumbi valley, as reported by ThePrint in October.

Over 300 heavy duty trucks, fresh tunneling into the mountains to set up gun positions and creation of several buildings to accommodate troops indicate a Chinese resolve to stay ready for action even through the winter.

Satellite images confirm that work is progressing at a feverish pace even in the winter. The images show at least nine three-storey buildings that are occupied and almost 300 large vehicles, suggesting that almost one division of troops are located in areas ahead of Yadong town.

Infrastructure developments
The People’s Liberation Army or PLA continues to develop infrastructure on a large scale in this area south and southwest of Yadong town.

The platoon and company posts have accommodation for more than a battalion of troops. The single-storey barracks have been replaced by massive three-storey buildings with possible underground and/or camouflaged parking.

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Infrastructure developments | Vinayak Bhat
The signal centre has been greatly improved with an earth receiving station, four large dish antennae, two huge aerials and a solid-wall fencing. It also has a slightly raised platform, possibly for future deployment of vehicle-based radars

Roads and tracks are being widened and developed all around. Large cranes, earth moving equipment and construction material can be seen almost everywhere. Certain areas defiladed from Indian defences are being leveled, probably for future constructions.

Troop buildup
There is also a massive buildup of troops just below the conflict area of Doklam. A large number of vehicles are seen parked near the riverside. In some areas, vehicles are seen hidden under camouflage nets. A number of tents have also been observed under camouflage nets.

A number of vehicles, including many small vehicles, are seen around the three-storey buildings, suggesting these buildings are also occupied.

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PLA troop build up | Vinayak Bhat
Improvement of defences
The satellite images suggest that a continuous improvement of defensive positions has been on since June 2017. All previous posts and also the new positions have been connected with a maze of well dug communication trenches.

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Improvement of defences | Vinayak Bhat
Most of the important positions have been afforded the protection of wire fences. Some posts can be seen to have infantry mortars positions.

At two places, mountain sides have been cut large enough to make gun positions, possibly for howitzers and/or multi-barrel rocket launchers (MBRLs).

Hardening gun positions
The old gun position has been improved to harden the shelters for guns. The shelters have further been provided with a layer of compressed earthen protection. Moving into the gun pit or scooting from the gun position would now be very easy. A second position is being constructed, albeit at a slow pace, possibly not to give out the direction of fire.

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PLA hardening of gun position | Vinayak Bhat
The satellite images confirm that work is progressing at a feverish pace even in the winter months. An additional infantry mortar position has been created in the second half of November. A comparison of November and December images also suggests that the troop buildup increased at the end of November.

https://theprint.in/2017/12/12/china-troop-buildup-doklam-increases/
 
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Read the Artucle Again -- It states 1800 Chinese troops stationed near Doklam.

On this Credibility Less Forum -- You an Jump with False Bravado....

ToRROW you will claim Victory over Russia, than USA
Appalling level of understanding show here. Near becomes capture. Hilarious. They will now capture Dkholam 20 times on PDF.
 
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Appalling level of understanding show here. Near becomes capture. Hilarious. They will now capture Dkholam 20 times on PDF.

Did you even read the article?

It didn't say near Donglang, it said IN Donglang. :P

Thousands of soldiers, permanent military garrisons, multiple major roads, all IN Donglang.
 
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Who said the troops are 10 km away? :lol:

And of course we can have as many troops as we want in Donglang, since India has back stabbed Bhutan and allowed the PLA to take over Donglang.
Be happy celebrate. You can capture everyone over PDF.
 
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Be happy celebrate. You can capture everyone over PDF.
To understand why pdf Chinese celebrate their failure to take Doka La as a victory. One must get and idea of the context and their funny definitions of victory.

The region Doklam current being referred by media consists of 3 region -Batang La, Doka La and Gymochen and some part of China recognized by both India and Bhutan to the North of Batang La.

as it can be seen in this picture in the South:

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China claims all three of these points as part of its territory but controls none.

Chinese attempts to take Batang La from India 2007 were unsuccessful:

https://www.pressreader.com/india/the-times-of-india-new-delhi-edition/20070803/282248071163205

So given their failure at Batang La recently PLA decided to try their luck and take Doka La which lies below Batang La.


A very foolish move given both Batang La and Gymochen consists of hostile military presence and PLA would get sandwiched between if it attempts to take Doka La

But Chinese being Chinese went ahead in 2017 and were again unsuccessful in taking Doka La.

Given their failure in Doka La . I believe their next try will be to take Gymochen.


Despite not possessing Batang La, Doka La and Gymochen its funny pdf Chinese claim PLA has occupied Doklam.

To understand the pdf Chinese reasoning behind their justification for claiming victory in Doklam let us consider the below conversation.

Assuming Batang La, Doka La and Gymochen are Canada, USA and Mexico respectively.

Pdf Chinese - Our PLA has occupied entire continent of North America.
Sane human - So PLA has troops on the ground in USA, Canada and Mexico?
Pdf Chinese - No, but we have garrisons, roads and helipads near these nations, hence we have conquered North American continent.

:lol:

@Peshwa @noksss @Gurjot.S @soundHound @Alphacharlie @Rollno21 @alphaxyz @Sergi @CoffeeByte @punit
Let me know if I have missed anything
 
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Pdf Chinese - Our PLA has occupied entire continent of North America.
Sane human - So PLA has troops on the ground in USA, Canada and Mexico?
Pdf Chinese - No, but we have garrisons, roads and helipads near these nations, hence we have conquered North American continent.

Fantastic way of twisting it into an Indian victory. :lol:

The question remains, why did India abandon their mutual defence treaty with Bhutan?

Why did India backstab Bhutan by unilaterally retreating and allowing China to control Donglang?

Are you now going to claim that India never considered Donglang to be Bhutan's territory? That's why you "allowed" the PLA to take over it?
 
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To understand why pdf Chinese celebrate their failure to take Doka La as a victory. One must get and idea of the context and their funny definitions of victory.

The region Doklam current being referred by media consists of 3 region -Batang La, Doka La and Gymochen and some part of China recognized by both India and Bhutan to the North of Batang La.

as it can be seen in this picture in the South:

Doklam-Map-2-1024x614.jpg


China claims all three of these points as part of its territory but controls none.

Chinese attempts to take Batang La from India 2007 were unsuccessful:

https://www.pressreader.com/india/the-times-of-india-new-delhi-edition/20070803/282248071163205

So given their failure at Batang La recently PLA decided to try their luck and take Doka La which lies below Batang La.


A very foolish move given both Batang La and Gymochen consists of hostile military presence and PLA would get sandwiched between if it attempts to take Doka La

But Chinese being Chinese went ahead in 2017 and were again unsuccessful in taking Doka La.

Given their failure in Doka La . I believe their next try will be to take Gymochen.


Despite not possessing Batang La, Doka La and Gymochen its funny pdf Chinese claim PLA has occupied Doklam.

To understand the pdf Chinese reasoning behind their justification for claiming victory in Doklam let us consider the below conversation.

Assuming Batang La, Doka La and Gymochen are Canada, USA and Mexico respectively.

Pdf Chinese - Our PLA has occupied entire continent of North America.
Sane human - So PLA has troops on the ground in USA, Canada and Mexico?
Pdf Chinese - No, but we have garrisons, roads and helipads near these nations, hence we have conquered North American continent.

:lol:

@Peshwa @noksss @Gurjot.S @soundHound @Alphacharlie @Rollno21 @alphaxyz @Sergi @CoffeeByte @punit
Let me know if I have missed anything
Bhai, how many times I have to tell you, the orange area is not Doklam, it was an area erroneously referred by Indian media, that area is under Chinese control already. There is no trijunction at the orange area. Batang La and Doka La are border passes, NOBODY controls a fence, it's shared. Why are you twisting the reality again and again? It's so obvious what is happening on the ground. The Chinese troops are 150-200 meters away from the border.

What happened in 2007 was China protesting India building bunkers within Indian borders because they only recognized Sikkim in 2003. You are just regurgitating the same crap over and over, pretty desperate isn't it?:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Fantastic way of twisting it into an Indian victory. :lol:

The question remains, why did India abandon their mutual defence treaty with Bhutan?

Why did India backstab Bhutan by unilaterally retreating and allowing China to control Donglang?

Are you now going to claim that India never considered Donglang to be Bhutan's territory? That's why you "allowed" the PLA to take over it?
I told you right, even if they killed someone, they will blame the other person for charging towards their knife and stabbing themselves.This is India for you, and you wonder why they never develop, they are delusional, they don't like to face reality.:enjoy:

You can have as many soldiers as you want 10 KM away.
The troops, helipads, stores and bunkers are in Doklam, roughly 150-200 meters from the point of conflict, itself being 50-100 meters from the border. Those additional infrastructure are 5-10km away, some on the edge of Doklam and others in Yadong.
 
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I realise the Indians are lying again, I measure this image using Bing maps, it' actually 2km from the point of conflict, not 4.5km. So actually China had been building new roads in the middle of the plateau even after the conflict.

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The building on the left is the last Indian installation near the border, the grey road is the upgraded Chinese road G40 compared to the Indian dirt road (aka point of conflict). The difference in quality is evident. The border is roughly in the middle of those two points. Perpendicular distance is roughly 50 meters between the two.

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See above map, the higher elevation flat land is Doklam Plateau, currently under Chinese occupation. This piece of real estate has unhindered view of Siliguri, you put howitzers and rockets there and bombard Siliguri to cut off the NE of India. It is at a higher elevation than Jampheri ridge.
 
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Did you even read the article?

It didn't say near Donglang, it said IN Donglang. :P

Thousands of soldiers, permanent military garrisons, multiple major roads, all IN Donglang.
they are not on disputed territory . the moment they try to , they will be confronted as did before , and mind it , 2019 is election year in Bharat , it will be better if china remains in her limits next year . defense forum propaganda is one thing and facing the reality is another . at least senior members who randomly give negative ratings and ban non pakistani and chinese members shall be just in making their statements which are in line with the reality .
 
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they are not on disputed territory . the moment they try to , they will be confronted as did before , and mind it , 2019 is election year in Bharat , it will be better if china remains in her limits next year . defense forum propaganda is one thing and facing the reality is another . at least senior members who randomly give negative ratings and ban non pakistani and chinese members shall be just in making their statements which are in line with the reality .
They are bhai, just look at the map, anything after Batang La is disputed, and we are 5km deep after Batang La, covering the whole Doklam Plateau. You need to face reality, the roads will be constructed. Mark my words. We already flank you in the borders, then our crew will construct behind this flank, It will reach Jampheri Ridge.
 
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they are not on disputed territory . the moment they try to , they will be confronted as did before , and mind it , 2019 is election year in Bharat , it will be better if china remains in her limits next year . defense forum propaganda is one thing and facing the reality is another . at least senior members who randomly give negative ratings and ban non pakistani and chinese members shall be just in making their statements which are in line with the reality .
Shhhh........pdf Chinese believe they have occupied Doklam without having control over Batang La, Doka La and Gymochen.

I say for the sake of being sympathetic to their fantasies, lets pretend to believe they do ;)
 
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Shhhh........pdf Chinese believe they have occupied Doklam without having control over Batang La, Doka La and Gymochen.

I say for the sake of being sympathetic to their fantasies, lets pretend to believe they do ;)
Genius, for the nth time, nobody controls a border, it's shared.:lol:
 
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