India Accused of Cultural Onslaught as It Bans Traditional Kashmiri Pheran Cloak

[manlion]

Oh, I can.

The first was with the under posted link:
https://www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/portrait-of-a-suicide-bomber/214191

Simple search:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/02/india.kashmir

https://www.dawn.com/news/148806

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/02/world/asia/car-bomb-in-indian-kashmir-kills-five.html

all the above cases involved suiciders using car bombs nothing to do with hiding suicide vest in Phirans , recap what you wrote

Pheran, a loose attire, is a protective clothing that allows one to conceal an assault rifle and/or a suicide vest. The most pertinent line remains:

 

[Hellfire]

all the above cases involved suiciders using car bombs nothing to do with hiding suicide vest in Phirans , recap what you wrote

What was difficult for you to comprehend @manlion ?

Shall I help at English now @manlion ?

Okay, will do @manlion . If you take a look at the sentence as below:

Pheran, a loose attire, is a protective clothing that allows one to conceal an assault rifle and/or a suicide vest. The most pertinent line remains:

And compare with:

Petrol, a fuel product, is used as fuel in cars as also allows you to use it as an incendiary bomb by making molotov cocktail.

The word 'allows' indicates an alternative use and does not necessarily indicate only exclusivity of use.

As for your other contention, your original post:

can you cite any incident of suicide bombing in Kashmir ?

Posted reference of a suicide bombing as asked.

Nice try @manlion

Try a bit harder @manlion

 

[I.R.A]

Take these pehrans and clothe your nangay sadhus ...........

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

What's that suppose to mean?

Supposed to mean officials arent meant to wear that or people visiting secretariat (where the head of govt and officials work) should remove that dress. How is it cultural onslaught? It was bought less than 600 years anyway.

 

[manlion]

Correction 1: Pakistan has illegally occupied parts of Kashmir @manlion
Correction 2: Kashmiris are making their own lives hard by taking up arms against the State @manlion
Correction 3: There are no occupiers in Tamil Nadu @manlion
Correction 4: Jallikattu was challenged by Animal Rights Activists @manlion

Correction 1 & 2 - India deploys 500,000 to 700,000 (estimate) security personnel in IOK that should tell you who is occupying Kashmir

Correction 3 - in 1960s Tamilnadu fought for independence from India.

The DMK leader took the first opportunity that came his way to talk about the most controversial demand of his party —secession of Tamil Nadu (then called Madras). Much to the shock of many members, Annadurai said, “Let us have a re-thinking. We have a Constitution, of course ... but the time has come for a re-thinking, for a re-appraisal, for a re-valuation and for a re-interpretation of the word nation.” And what is that re-appraisal?

Annadurai elaborated: “I claim to come from a country ... which I think, is of a different stock ... I belong to the Dravidian stock. I am proud to call myself a Dravidian ... Dravidians have got something distinct, something different, to offer to the nation at large. Therefore it is that we want self-determination.”

http://www.newindianexpress.com/opinions/2018/apr/10/nip-secession-demands-in-the-bud-1799282.html

Correction 4 - BJP minister's on Jallikattu, Hindutva (Hindi) forces were operating behind the animal rights activists (PETA) and SC to ban Jallikattu

Maneka says jallikattu a Western concept
https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...rn-concept-bjp-against-it/article6796717.ece#!

 

[enquencher]

Pheran, a loose attire, is a protective clothing that allows one to conceal an assault rifle and/or a suicide vest. The most pertinent line remains:

The development comes in the backdrop of a similar ban on the Pheran in the civil secretariat (Srinagar) where the commoners visiting the administrative departments have to relinquish it at the main gate.


@manlion Nice try! A security move meant to dissuade any untoward incident given the typical religious/cultural touch!

Do give your comments on Kashmiriyat and the advent of wahabism in the Kashmiri Society.

@Joe Shearer Another genius who knows more



Pretty apparent, the understand thing.

I would request gov of india to ban madrasi lungi that @manlion cannot hide his weapons.
Trying to give a security alert a twist

 

[Joe Shearer]

did Dhanu the Tamil Suicide bomber hide her suicide vest or bomb in a phiran when she blew off Rajiv ?

the best preventive measure is either occupying Indians leave Kashmir or ban all kashmiris from Indian govt premises

Could we recommend medication for the more hysterical PDF members instead? Cheaper all around, more effective.

 

[Clutch]

The true indigenous people, ironically, will be Hindus in that case

Actually the indigenous peoples converted to Islam. Just as mine did. The Hindus of the south remained Hindu predominantly. Hence the difference in the skin colour. Indian Hindu skin pigment is a give away as to who is indigenous.

Easy as pie.

 

[Hellfire]

Correction 1 & 2 - India deploys 500,000 to 700,000 (estimate) security personnel in IOK that should tell you who is occupying Kashmir

So @manlion , with 0.3 million (approximation) people in Pakistan's Security Forces (Armed Forces, Paramilitary Forces) in all restive regions of Pakistan, one should assume Pakistan is occupying those territories?

Now correlate with Pheran, the original topic @manlion

Correction 3 - in 1960s Tamilnadu fought for independence from India.

No @manlion ... there was no fight Posting a political assertion does not make it a fight. Or is this also 'fighting' for independence @manlion ?

https://nation.com.pk/05-Dec-2015/how-balochistan-became-a-part-of-pakistan-a-historical-perspective

And we are digressing from Pheran, the original topic @manlion.

Correction 4 - BJP minister's on Jallikattu, Hindutva (Hindi) forces were operating behind the animal rights activists (PETA) and SC to ban Jallikattu

Maneka says jallikattu a Western concept
https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...rn-concept-bjp-against-it/article6796717.ece#!

Is she the cited reason on Supreme Court case and judgement @manlion ?

Maneka Gandhi is against milking of cows too @manlion

Try Harder. Meanwhile, stick to your topic @manlion

@manlion

You may get there in next century

Could we recommend medication for the more hysterical PDF members instead? Cheaper all around, more effective.

No sir, the medications will have too much failure rate. Companies will go bankrupt! It is not the question of treating a disease. It is the question of eradication of the root cause here sir - that of ignorance & basking in it's 'glow'

Actually the indigenous peoples converted to Islam. Just as mine did. The Hindus of the south remained Hindu predominantly. Hence the difference in the skin colour. Indian Hindu skin pigment is a give away as to who is indigenous.

Easy as pie.

No @Clutch

I was specific to your post. Don't try and squirm out by changing the reading frame

Such racist posts are unbecoming of you

 

[Clutch]

I was specific to your post. Don't try and squirm out by changing the reading frame

Such racist posts are unbecoming of you

It wasn't racist. Europeans are not dark skinned because of the cold weather. The hotter the climates the darker the skin.

Just like Saudis are more dark skinned than lebanese because ofothe climatic differences. For a Saudi to state that they are the true indigenous folks of the mountainus region of Lebanon is quite laughable.

The Kashmiris look indigenous because they belong to that climate. Being dark skinned is nothing to be ashamed of. I am surprised that you feel offended by stating Indians are dark skinned and that makes you feel racially abused.

 

[manlion]

So @manlion , with 0.3 million (approximation) people in Pakistan's Security Forces (Armed Forces, Paramilitary Forces) in all restive regions of Pakistan, one should assume Pakistan is occupying those territories?

Now correlate with Pheran, the original topic

Pakistan army in Azad Kashmir is to ward off Indian intrusion not to harass and kill Kashmiris like India e.g pellets guns

Is she the cited reason on Supreme Court case and judgement @manlion ?

Maneka Gandhi is against milking of cows too

Jallikattu and Pheran irks sanghis as it sets Tamils and Kashmiris apart from rest of Indian and away from the pan Indian Hindutva identity.

PETA and animal rights activists who fought against Jallikattu are brahmins and / or BJP/RSS members e.g Menaka Gandhi, Radha Rajan, Ambika Sukla, Arun Prasanna etc

Jallikattu protest a lesson for Hindutva forces: Asaduddin Owaisi..

AIMIM leader Asaduddin Owaisi said on Friday that the protests against the jallikattu ban are a lesson for the Hindutva forces.

"Jallikattu protests, lesson for Hindutva forces," Owaisi said in a tweet.

He linked the demonstrations in favour of the ancient sport to the Uniform Civil Code saying that the code "cannot be imposed".

"This nation cannot have one culture, we celebrate all," he added.

https://www.thenewsminute.com/artic...n-hindutva-forces-says-asaduddin-owaisi-56018

 

[Chakar The Great]

What else can be expected of a country who has been killing innocent Kashmiris for decades.

 

[Hellfire]

It wasn't racist.

It is @Clutch very much so

Actually the indigenous peoples converted to Islam. Just as mine did. The Hindus of the south remained Hindu predominantly. Hence the difference in the skin colour. Indian Hindu skin pigment is a give away as to who is indigenous.

For racist, refer below:

The only differences that matter are the anthropological parameters of the human body that can differentiate between the races @Clutch

Pray, do enumerate the Brachial, Crural and Cephalic index differences between a Kashmiri and 'Indian Hindu' that allow you to be able to claim as such, with confidence

Europeans are not dark skinned because of the cold weather. The hotter the climates the darker the skin.

An adaptation of the melanocytes @Clutch ; you are right.

So this is how you will differentiate between a dark skin color of people staying in high altitudes of Gurez-Machchil-Drass-Kargil (darker than even the shade found in sun kissed Maharashtra) and Kashmir Valley (lighter skin colored due to less exposure to sun) proper then @Clutch ?

Not a question of ashamed or not. If it pleases you, am mistaken for a Spanish while roaming in Europe

But the point remains that one should not make comments on skin color as they are nothing but racist at the end of the day @Clutch

I did understand that it was not your intent, hence I wrote :

Such racist posts are unbecoming of you

Pakistan army in Azad Kashmir is to ward off Indian intrusion not to harass and kill Kashmiris like India e.g pellets guns

Need help again at English @manlion ?

Then ask, always wiling to help you

Your reply of "Azad" Kashmir is related exactly how with my post as under?

So @manlion , with 0.3 million (approximation) people in Pakistan's Security Forces (Armed Forces, Paramilitary Forces) in all restive regions of Pakistan, one should assume Pakistan is occupying those territories?

Now correlate with Pheran, the original topic @manlion

Is the territory you have named, restive?

Still not able to understand the correlation with the topic of the thread. You are simply derailing it @manlion

Jallikattu and Pheran irks sanghis as it sets Tamils and Kashmiris apart from rest of Indian and away from the pan Indian Hindutva identity.

Says you @manlion

No proof forwarded by you other than your views @manlion What is the confidence interval of your claims and the sample size of your 'original research' @manlion ?

And how does it correlate with Pheran @manlion ?

PETA and animal rights activists who fought against Jallikattu are brahmins and / or BJP/RSS members e.g Menaka Gandhi, Radha Rajan, Ambika Sukla, Arun Prasanna etc

So PETA is RSS/BJP/Brahmin organization @manlion ?

Did you tell them yet?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_for_the_Ethical_Treatment_of_Animals


How about this then @manlion :

The laudable efforts of PETA India and the Animal Welfare Board of India bore fruits as the Supreme Court upheld its Ban on the Bull-taming/bull-fighting sport.

source: https://www.petsworld.in/blog/honor...-passes-landmark-verdict-bans-jallikattu.html

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...s-jallikattu-in-tamil-nadu/article5986025.ece

The SC is currently hearing pleas from animal activists against the Centre's decision that allowed the controversial bull-taming sport to be held in Tamil Nadu earlier this year. The court had stayed a notification in January to lift the ban, and had issued a notice in its stead.

However, the Centre in its affidavit justified its actions. “Apart from bring a part of Tamil Nadu culture and heritage it is also integral to the religious beliefs and sentiments of several communities,” it said to drive home its point that a custom practised for over 100 years is a law or right.

“To conduct Jallikattu is a part of the right to freedom of religion and such a fundamental right cannot be overridden by the provisions of the statute (law on prevention of cruelty to animals),” read the NDA government’s affidavit filed in the SC.

source: https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...p-the-sport/story-de6NkuknAGdLQJLAsTx6hM.html

Comment: The Honorable Supreme Court of India, in effect, kicked out the Ministry of Environment, Forest and Climate Change's Order dated 07 January 2016 as published in Gazette of India permitting Jallikattu.

So, a Government which is made of 'sanghis' is publishing a Government Order overruling the Judiciary's highest body because, in your words @manlion

Jallikattu and Pheran irks sanghis as it sets Tamils and Kashmiris apart from rest of Indian and away from the pan Indian Hindutva identity.

Why are you so confused @manlion ?

Jallikattu protest a lesson for Hindutva forces: Asaduddin Owaisi..

AIMIM leader Asaduddin Owaisi said on Friday that the protests against the jallikattu ban are a lesson for the Hindutva forces.

"Jallikattu protests, lesson for Hindutva forces," Owaisi said in a tweet.

He linked the demonstrations in favour of the ancient sport to the Uniform Civil Code saying that the code "cannot be imposed".

"This nation cannot have one culture, we celebrate all," he added.

https://www.thenewsminute.com/artic...n-hindutva-forces-says-asaduddin-owaisi-56018

Uniform Civil Code is not under discussion @manlion

Let us now help you stop your perpetuation of deflections and get back to Pherans.

Stop trolling your own thread @manlion

Take these pehrans and clothe your nangay sadhus ...........

Why are you jealous of sandhus today @I.R.A ? Go ahead and do a skinny dip if you want

Don't be a bigot @I.R.A

One should not make fun of others 'beliefs' howsoever at odds they appear to be at with your @I.R.A

Digambars walk naked, so?

 

[I.R.A]

Why are you jealous of sandhus today @I.R.A ? Go ahead and do a skinny dip if you want

Don't be a bigot @I.R.A

One should not make fun of others 'beliefs' howsoever at odds they appear to be at with your @I.R.A

Digambars walk naked, so?

@hellfire @hellfire @hellfire @hellfire

Oh stop it no fire can beat my pee. @hellfire

What's wrong with you @hellfire

 

[Hellfire]

Oh stop it no fire can beat my pee. @hellfire

What's wrong with you @hellfire

I wish that almighty grants you agreeable company (sans numbers limited) to go skinny dip @I.R.A

But please, don't be busy with pee at the cusp of realization of my wishes for you!!!

Nothing, the member is carrying out an engagement as one should, a refreshing change in PDF and he did help me brush up some facts in the process, always thankful to such members. They add to your knowledge, knowingly or unknowingly.

@manlion
Thanks for the interaction.

I will trouble you no more - for now. Later