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saaju

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Iam kashmiri from Muzaffarad.
After the abolition of article 370 & 35A in IOK And whatever response Pakistan has shown ( Mostely diplomatic) seems insufficient to satisfy the people of Azad Kashmir. There is a noise of independent Kashmir here on our side.. So many peoples are turning against even Pakistan.. Nationalism is on the rise. People are asking for freedom from both India and Pakistan. There is for sure a sense of betrayal among kashmiris.. People of Azad Kashmir want Pakistan to take some stong ( perhaps military) action against India which could satisfy the emotions of people.. The most popular slogan these days among the kashmiris is.. " Shah rag kat'ti rhe aur jism sota rha"

Although these voice are rare and less powerful but there is a trend at ground level. People around me are even abusing me for supporting Pakistan.. Many of my friends and family members are now in favour of an independent Kashmir Sometime I remain the only one in favour of Pakistan.. I will be the saddest Person if majority votes for independent state at the end. I hope it never happens..

My Question is that could this be a dangerous trend?? Can this pave the way for an independent movement on this side of kashmir? And should Pakistan do something to win the trust of kashmiris back??
 
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Whenver India starts treating Kashmiris with pellets or iron hand; Kahsmiris as well as Pakistanis start a campaign to free Kashmir. Kashmir issue has taken pace after Indian authorities imposed curfew. So my question is, why are Kashmiris sleeping all around unless woken up by Indian authorities ?
 
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Whenver India starts treating Kashmiris with pellets or iron hand; Kahsmiris as well as Pakistanis start a campaign to free Kashmir. Kashmir issue has taken pace after Indian authorities imposed curfew. So my question is, why are Kashmiris sleeping all around unless woken up by Indian authorities ?

Kashmir doesn't posses any power or influence to compaign for freedom of other side in the world.. All we can do is to stage a protest.. Whatever is to be done is upto Pakistan.
 
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The right to self-determination means what it says. The right is to decide by majority vote whatever the popel want be it full freedom or joining Pakistan or India. As for the abusing part, they should know better after the kind of treatment the folks in occupied territory go thru. Without Pakistan, things would ve been much worse. They should know that. lastly, if they feel so strongly, ask them why they have not crossed over the loc and fight the actual occupiers? They are waiting for Pak Army to put the victory on their laps?
 
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The right to self-determination means what it says. The right is to decide by majority vote whatever the popel want be it full freedom or joining Pakistan or India. As for the abusing part, they should know better after the kind of treatment the folks in occupied territory go thru. Without Pakistan, things would ve been much worse. They should know that. lastly, if they feel so strongly, ask them why they have not crossed over the loc and fight the actual occupiers? They are waiting for Pak Army to put the victory on their laps?

Iam in favour of right to self determination but not at the expense of Pakistan.. We have a relation religion with Pakistan which I consider to be the strongest. We never want that relation to be damaged in anyway.
 
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Kashmir doesn't posses any power or influence to compaign for freedom of other side in the world.. All we can do is to stage a protest.. Whatever is to be done is upto Pakistan.
You have answered your own question. Kashmir cannot survive independently.
 
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You have answered your own question. Kashmir cannot survive independently.

This is not my question.. Iam not in favour of independence.. But how should I make others understand it.
 
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Brother, I am Kashmiri too and a proud Pakistani so I can completely relate to what you are saying. One last thing left to do for Pakistan, to ask International community to intervene and as DG ISPR said today, when they don't then we have no choice but war.

It's a game of patience
 
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Brother, I am Kashmiri too and a proud Pakistani so I can completely relate to what you are saying. One last thing left to do for Pakistan, to ask International community to intervene and as DG ISPR said today, when they don't then we have no choice but war.

It's a game of patience

Iam still sure most of us are Proud Pakistani. But they call me "zehni ghulam" of when I show my love for Pakistan.
 
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Iam in favour of right to self determination but not at the expense of Pakistan.. We have a relation religion with Pakistan which I consider to be the strongest. We never want that relation to be damaged in anyway.
Brother I am kashmiri as well I love my id which represent Pakistani n Spainish flags..
 
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Some people say Kashmiri Qoum can't be trusted, maybe this might be the reason ..

This can't be applied to every kashmiri.. Even a lot of Pakistani are untrustworthy as well.. Its natural to have what we call " Ghaddar"
 
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Trouble with muslims is every village wants independent. This is because the stupid leaders want powers they mislead uneducated lemmings. You want freedom...goodluck. go get it. Don't ask Pakistanis to die for u
 
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This can't be applied to every kashmiri.. Even a lot of Pakistani are untrustworthy as well.. Its natural to have what we call " Ghaddar"

I have seen Independent Kashmir banners in AJK , saw that myself on my way to Balakot last year .. In 1965 Kashmiri people didn't do anything but instead they betrayed Pakistan, in 1999 they didn't do anything , in 2001-2 stand-off nothing as usual , after 27th Feb nothing .. still hundreds of Kashmiri's are serving in J&K police .
 
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