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Incredible ancient Hindu sculpture architecture and monuments

Thank you for the post. The intricacy, scale, form, proportions are all stunning, it makes me wonder instead of improving on the already acquired skills how come we lost it all. Such work might be possible now with CAD but doing it with hand with limited tools and techniques is an achievement in its own.

No pun intended: Are these sites exclusive for religious purpose or open to non-white/muslim tourists as well?
 
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Thank you for the post. The intricacy, scale, form, proportions are all stunning, it makes me wonder instead of improving on the already acquired skills how come we lost it all. Such work might be possible now with CAD but doing it with hand with limited tools and techniques is an achievement in its own.

No pun intended: Are these sites exclusive for religious purpose or open to non-white/muslim tourists as well?
Most are open to tourists but some are not. A certain temple in Odisha ( and quite a few others) has a notice:
"Dogs and Muslims not allowed "
I managed to sneak in though with a vertical vermillion streak on my forehead.
btw what is inside these temples. heard that hindus, over the years/centuries are depositing gold in them
Have been to Tirupati and the temple complex has some ancillary structures which house ...
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Most are open to tourists but some are not. A certain temple in Odisha ( and quite a few others) has a notice:
"Dogs and Muslims not allowed "
I managed to sneak in though with a vertical vermillion streak on my forehead.

Have been to Tirupati and the temple complex has some ancillary structures which house ...
Forum rules do not permit further information.
Okay good to know. I will order this shirt before visiting, it should give me a free pass :D
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Virupaksha Temple, Hampi

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Ranakpur Chaturmukha Temple, Rajastan

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The 2nd-longest continuous wall on the Planet, surrounds the fort of Kumbhalgarh that contains 360 temples. Stretches over a distance of 38km, 15m wide which is enough for 8 horses to walk abreast. Built in the 15th century by Rana Kumbha.

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KUMBHALGARH FORT, Rajasthan : The Birthplace of Mewar’s legendary king Maharana Pratap.

Located on the westerly range of Aravalli Hills, in the Rajsamand district near Udaipur, Rajasthan. The Fort is a UNESCO World Heritage Site included in Hill Forts of Rajasthan.

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No pun intended: Are these sites exclusive for religious purpose or open to non-white/muslim tourists as well?
There are functional temples and those that are semi-functional.
The most important of the functional temples are the "Dhaams" ( rhymes with the wor "palm") . There are four Dhaams in India ( Hindu guests please correct me if I am wrong ). These Dhaams attract the most number of worshippers and are the richest in terms of donations logging Rs.6 -10 billion a year in cash not including the gold and silver donations which are not valued in the audit.
The managements are through Muths ( مٹھ) or Trusts headed by a temple committee.
Temples vary widely in style and architecture and southern and northern temples have their own distinct style.
The northern temples are conservative with images or idols restricted to the deities , whereas the Southern and Western temples are better decorated with carvings of different entities as such as apsaras etc. A personal choice but I found the Southern and Western temples far more interesting ( particularly Ajanta and Ellora and the Khajuraho complexes).
The functional temples have 24 -7 hours if worship though Tuesdays and at a few places Sundays are special.
Each temple has its own ritual and norms for example the temple at Tirupati requires the shaving off all hair from the body and head of both males and females, ( there is another extended optional ritual reserved for male devotees that we shall not discuss...). Similarly the Kali Temple in Kolkata has the sacrifice of a goat ( beheaded with a cleaver) by the priest.The Kali temple also has an optional extended ritual. The Jagganath Temple in Puri, the Ayappa Temple in Kerala have their own rituals also. It is difficult for Muslims to understand this because our way of worship is almost universal ( with slight variations on the mislaks
Most temples have a crowd of mendicants and beggars in the approaches ( though NOT within the temples). Some of the physical deformities of the beggars would challenge orthopedic specialists
So far as the worship is concerned my own preference is for the Northern Temples which are clean, well lit, and the aarti Bhajans are in Hindi which is easier to understand.
Most Southern and Western temples are located around artificial bodies of water ( a tank or pond) according to the Vastu principals , ( the Indian equivalent of Feng Shui ) . Northern temples are more commonly found on the banks of rivers, lakes, and streams and on mountain tops.
There are variations in the idols of the deities. A Lord Shiva temple in the North is standard with an angular pyramid shaped tower often adorned with carvings of cobras. The matching Nataraj temple in Southern India would be very different with a trapezoidal tower adorned with a myriad carvings. In a similar way the temple to Lord Vishnu in the North is very different from his counterpart Balaji in the south.
Okay good to know. I will order this shirt before visiting, it should give me a free pass :D
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Don't feel bad about this .
A number of temples are not open to Dalits either.
 
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Raja Raja Chola may be one of the best Indian administrators .......... I heard somewhere they used elephants to clean the inside of the temple to throw water using their trunks

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Brihadeshwara Temple is one of the famous Shiva temples in India. It is located in Thanjavur in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu.
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Raja Raja Chola may be one of the best Indian administrators .......... I heard somewhere they used elephants to clean the inside of the temple to throw water using their trunks
Not really. Elephants only have a few liters of water in their trunks. You would need a lot of elephants and water from the elephants trunk is not clean as it is full of nasal bacteria. Moreover for an unknown reason male elephants frequently deposit dung when spraying, a kind of marking their territory,
The usual method of raising water into the temples was by a latha ( لاٹھا) , a version of the shadoof or by a waterwheel. which flooded the water through side channels at the base of the walls, and temple attendants would dip hemp fiber brush swabs ( sisal fibre bundle tied on end with a rope) to sweep the floor. This was done by upper caste karasewaks ( کارسیوک ) since lower caste Hindus were usually not allowed in the temple premises.
Today a hose and pump is used.
 
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There were 1000 elephants employed for the building process of the Brihadsvara temple.......I said to remove the dirt from the main dome of the temple they used the elephants

Not really. Elephants only have a few liters of water in their trunks. You would need a lot of elephants and water from the elephants trunk is not clean as it is full of nasal bacteria. Moreover for an unknown reason male elephants frequently deposit dung when spraying, a kind of marking their territory,
The usual method of raising water into the temples was by a latha ( لاٹھا) , a version of the shadoof or by a waterwheel. which flooded the water through side channels at the base of the walls, and temple attendants would dip hemp fiber brush swabs ( sisal fibre bundle tied on end with a rope) to sweep the floor. This was done by upper caste karasewaks ( کارسیوک ) since lower caste Hindus were usually not allowed in the temple premises.
Today a hose and pump is used.
 
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Are these sites exclusive for religious purpose or open to non-white/muslim tourists as well?
A word of caution to Pakistanis and Muslims in general:
1. Before visiting any temple complex in India always check with the India Tourism Development Corporation ( ITDC ) if the temple is functioning and if non-Hindus are allowed. Usually non-Hindus are NOT allowed with no exceptions ; a rule that was also imposed on the Italian born wife of the Indian Prime Minister.
A non-functional temple is usually open to tourists if it is certified as a UN World Heritage Site and protected as an archeological monument by the Archeological Survey of India.
Even so when visiting any temple be sure NOT to wear your traditional clothes ( salwar kameez, sherwani) , shave off your beard if possible, and hide your nishan-e-sujood under a western style cap. The female members of your family must take off their hijab and dress preferably in a saree with a bindi . Do not carry any food with you especially non-vegetarian food. Do NOT talk in Urdu, If you can talk in Punjabi or Gujarati you are OK otherwise talk in English. Attempting to talk in Hindi is likely to give you away.
Do NOT reveal your origins. These are dangerous times to be visiting India even if you are traveling on a European or North American passport. Lynch mobs do not ask for passports and being mistaken for an Indian Muslim is no fun. Ideally do not visit at all. The temples can wait till there is peace.
Have been there.
There were 1000 elephants .....I said to remove the dirt from the main dome of the temple they used the elephants
My Apologies.
I was merely responding to your quote below:

" I heard somewhere they used elephants to clean the inside of the temple to throw water using their trunks" .
Am getting dyslexic because I missed the reference in your original post.
 
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My Dear
Was there any threat to this magnificent building from Babri Masjid?


Could the burnt people of Ahmedabad have been a threat to this great building? Are the unarmed civilians killed in Kashmir a threat to such Indian greatness?

By the way, the buildings built in India or Pakistan during the Mughal period are a thousand times more beautiful than such buildings in terms of architecture and beauty.
 
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These are dangerous times to be visiting India even if you are traveling on a European or North American passport. Lynch mobs do not ask for passports and being mistaken for an Indian Muslim is no fun. Ideally do not visit at all. The temples can wait till there is peace.
Have been there.
Your joking right?
 
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Their physical fitness to perform such "acrobatics" is amazing!
Your joking right?
No I am not..


Could some one post pictures of the Salt Range Temples of Pakistan here?
Absolutely amazing architecture and art. I would love to see these. I also appreciate that these are real "Indian" heritage which is to be applauded. All too often Indian's use Pakistan's heritage to sing songs. But all this is indeed Indian and Indians should be proud. And thanks for sharing.

Ps. I hope people look at some of these exquisite pieces of art as high art and not cheap p*orn. Although I suspect uncltured minds will probably do that.
Absolutely. Just remember some temple carvings ( examples in the early posts on this thread ) are NOT to be viewed by small children.
 
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Even so when visiting any temple be sure NOT to wear your traditional clothes ( salwar kameez, sherwani) , shave off your beard if possible, and hide your nishan-e-sujood under a western style cap. The female members of your family must take off their hijab and dress preferably in a saree with a bindi . Do not carry any food with you especially non-vegetarian food. Do NOT talk in Urdu, If you can talk in Punjabi or Gujarati you are OK otherwise talk in English. Attempting to talk in Hindi is likely to give you away.
Do NOT reveal your origins. These are dangerous times to be visiting India even if you are traveling on a European or North American passport. Lynch mobs do not ask for passports and being mistaken for an Indian Muslim is no fun. Ideally do not visit at all. The temples can wait till there is peace.
Yes I understand that todays India is way different than that of yesterdays (sadly). I have travelled to India more than 8 times (both with friends and family) and that too on Pakistani passports, surprisingly most people (locals) always thought of us as Indian but from some other part for sure, until we use to tell them we are from Pakistan and had a very favorable and welcoming gestures. Even to a point, that the entry ticket to monuments which I believe for foreigners is to be paid in $ or equivilant INR were not charged to us, despite informing them they insisted that we pay the local price only (sweet deal for sure). I believe all this is history now, my last trip was in 2011 or 12, from the things generally evident I believe the media has played its part well and now even the locals on the streets will have a very different outlook.
 
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Yes and no. Yes, we share common history with all humanity.

Just because we should appreciate Indian art should not be used to now sing the "we be same" songs please. I have absolutely no ancestry with a Bihari, Madya Pradeshi, a Tamil a Bengali beyond the common human link we all have.
Oh really?
Had no idea you are that much narrow minded person.
 
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