Inclusion of Tejas (LCA) will further weaken IAF: Military Circles

[batmannow]

Right, you and your $7 Billion per annum budget having country did what exactly? Compare any other industry in your country, and you think you have a sophisticated aerospace industry? With what R&D budget? Couple of million?

We have black budget , war is our bussines , stop worrying about it , still with your god dammed super budget , where is LCA since 14 years ?
Ohhj ,on the drawing board ?lolzz

 

[Water Car Engineer]

We have black budget , war is our bussines , stop worrying about it , still with your god dammed super budget , where is LCA since 14 years ?
Ohhj ,on the drawing board ?lolzz

Getting inducted, with news of it getting even more orders under this government, that's where it's at the moment.

 

[danger007]

We have black budget , war is our bussines , stop worrying about it , still with your god dammed super budget , where is LCA since 14 years ?
Ohhj ,on the drawing board ?lolzz

am sure you guys are investing 10s of billions behind the doors... being rich country it's just normal thing for you guys...

 

[batmannow]

Getting inducted, with news of it getting even more orders under this government, that's where it's at the moment.

When ?
How many in flight testing ?lolzz
Sure then it will be 2050 on the occasion of the 10th death anvsry of moodi jee ?lolzz

 

[cerberus]

That was a bird strike, come up with something more constructive like how the IAF managed to loose/crash three squadrons of TWIN ENGINE Jaguars without them once firing in anger....as for your cheap shot, LM are still baffled how the IAF managed to crash it's brand new C-130.....in an inverted position.

IAF operated jags for 37 years that to in wide numbers Still operate it Large numbers The Indian Air Force plans to upgrade up to 125 Jaguars Fleet in DARIN III configuration IAF will operate Jags till 2030 which will add its Service years to 50+ years

IAF managed to loose/crash three squadrons of TWIN ENGINE Jaguars without them once firing in anger.

BS figure post Source of your claims

 

[batmannow]

am sure you guys are investing 10s of billions behind the doors... being rich country it's just normal thing for you guys...

Oh , do you know how much a small pack of gold quality heroine costs in Delhi ?lolzz
Go check that ?lolzz

 

[Water Car Engineer]

When ?
How many in flight testing ?lolzz
Sure then it will be 2050 on the occasion of the 10th death anvsry of moodi jee ?lolzz

Since the first SP1 rolled out. It's currently under production. 20 under pre-FOC, 20 FOC standard.

And news of 100+ more being added on to the original order. That's where it's at.

 

[Hindustani78]

I dont get it , out of 53 issues 42 have been addressed. And tejas is not replacement for Rafale, its for MIG-21.
It s short range plane indeed which is meant for point defence .

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar: LCA’s shortcomings addressed in its Mark-II version | The Indian Express

The shortcomings of indigenous Light Combat Aircraft Tejas Mark-I, like its survivability, performance and maintainability issues, have been addressed in its Mark-II version, Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar informed Lok Sabha

Parrikar also added that the maintainability issues were raised by IAF late in 2009 when design and drawings were already frozen for Mark-I. “However, many safety critical maintenance issues are already addressed in Mark-II,” he said.

The government had sanctioned project for development of LCA Mark-II in 2009. The Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) is the prime agency for development of LCA Mark-II with public and private partnerships. “All the above mentioned shortcomings in LCA Mark-I have been addressed in LCA Mark-II version,” Parrikar said.

 

[Perpendicular]

Whr does it says jf17 lol

Or u think it was thunder bc thr is a photo.of thunder
Get real lol

I tried to ask but failed, need higher intelligence

We have black budget , war is our bussines , stop worrying about it , still with your god dammed super budget , where is LCA since 14 years ?
Ohhj ,on the drawing board ?lolzz

What black bonds you issued for this black budget

 

[Hindustani78]

Since the first SP1 rolled out. It's currently under production. 20 under pre-FOC, 20 FOC standard.

And news of 100+ more being added on to the original order. That's where it's at.

Every year HAL will produce 16 Tejas and every year advance technology will be added in all the Tejas versions.

Indian military planners and GoI are aware what they are doing. Indians do have lot of patience.

 

[GURU DUTT]

as soon as both MOD and PMO have made it clear LCA is going to be the gap filler for IAF till FGFA comes all hub bul watan pakistanies are owt to degrade LCA project like bats owt of hill

what does this means ...... they are realli worried and there are some basic and very potent offensive qualities that pakistani security establishment is worried which tejas has among the few are already tested cpabilities

1.very low RCS deu to very small and compact design with a very high use of carbon composites

2. a very good four axis flight control and mangement system

3. a very good israeli radar with a very potent EW suite and a high off bore sight DASH HMDS & lightning G 4-5 LDP

4. a 4 tonne wepons load capacity on 7+1 wepons station

5. a very feul efficient yet very dependable and rugged engine

6. last but not the least a very potent and leathel package of israeli , french and indian air to air and air to ground munations

and then all hub bul watan pakistanies are trying to say they are not worried but are leaving no chance to downplay LCA tejas ..... why are they worried if tejas according to them is not worthy enemy

is it false bravado

is it paranoia

is it the sense of insecurity

or is it a mixture of all three

 

[Windjammer]

IAF operated jags for 37 years that to in wide numbers Still operate it Large numbers The Indian Air Force plans to upgrade up to 125 Jaguars Fleet in DARIN III configuration IAF will operate Jags till 2030 which will add its Service years to 50+ years

BS figure post Source of your claims

Listen mate, after your claim on the JF-17 crash, it's not difficult to conclude who is posting BS, none the less, swallow your pride and digest these figures, which are only up until 2003, it shows by then the IAF had lost some 24 Jaguars, add to that the losses over the last 12 years, the actual figure exceeds over 40 Jaguars crashes.


Report Our Data Percentage
No of MiG-21s lost between April 1992 and March 2002 102 83 83%
No of MiG-21s lost between Oct 1963 and 1 August 2003 315 163 52%
CAG Report mentions Ac lost between Apr 91 and Mar 97 147 84 57%
No of MiG-29s lost from 1987 till April 2000 5 3
No of Combat fighters lost from Apr 1999 till Mar 2001 52 51 98%
No of Fighters lost between 01 Apr 96 - 30 Sept 99 60 55 91%
No of Aircraft lost from April 2000 - Feb 17 2003 68
.

Year wise break up of Accidents and Writeoffs

Year Fighter Trainer Helicopter Transport
1991-92 27 08 03 01
1992-93 19 04 03 01 02
1993-94 23 04 01 01
1994-95 19 07 04 -
1995-96 24 08 04 02 01
1996-97 18 02 02 02

1997-98 11 2 3
1998-99 17 2 1 2
1999-00 20 20 5 2
2000-01 19 19 1 8
2001-02 13 12 3 2
2002-03 15 15 1 1

Aircraft Type Total Recorded Percentage
MiG-21 315 163(13) 52%
MiG-23 23 (3)
MiG-25 04 02
MiG-27 21
MiG-29 07(1) 05 (0)
Jaguar 23(1) 23 (1)
Mirage 2000 03 03

Warbirds of India - [ Air Crash Listings of the Indian Air Force ]

 

[GURU DUTT]

Listen mate, after your claim on the JF-17 crash, it's not difficult to conclude who is posting BS, none the less, swallow your pride and digest these figures, which are only up until 2003, it shows by then the IAF had lost some 24 Jaguars, add to that the losses over the last 12 years, the actual figure exceeds over 40 Jaguars crashes.


Report Our Data Percentage
No of MiG-21s lost between April 1992 and March 2002 102 83 83%
No of MiG-21s lost between Oct 1963 and 1 August 2003 315 163 52%
CAG Report mentions Ac lost between Apr 91 and Mar 97 147 84 57%
No of MiG-29s lost from 1987 till April 2000 5 3
No of Combat fighters lost from Apr 1999 till Mar 2001 52 51 98%
No of Fighters lost between 01 Apr 96 - 30 Sept 99 60 55 91%
No of Aircraft lost from April 2000 - Feb 17 2003 68
.

Year wise break up of Accidents and Writeoffs

Year Fighter Trainer Helicopter Transport
1991-92 27 08 03 01
1992-93 19 04 03 01 02
1993-94 23 04 01 01
1994-95 19 07 04 -
1995-96 24 08 04 02 01
1996-97 18 02 02 02

1997-98 11 2 3
1998-99 17 2 1 2
1999-00 20 20 5 2
2000-01 19 19 1 8
2001-02 13 12 3 2
2002-03 15 15 1 1

Aircraft Type Total Recorded Percentage
MiG-21 315 163(13) 52%
MiG-23 23 (3)
MiG-25 04 02
MiG-27 21
MiG-29 07(1) 05 (0)
Jaguar 23(1) 23 (1)
Mirage 2000 03 03

Warbirds of India - [ Air Crash Listings of the Indian Air Force ]

salaam jammer bhiyye ... kaise ho

is this thread about Jags ?

is this thread about air crashes of IAF ?

or is that you are too paranoid after the news LCA is cleared for full production

 

[The Ultranationalist]

Rafale was never meant to be numerical LOL, nice try though to act like Indian false flagger.....

brother i qnd my little brother both voted for modi's candidate, Gen. V K Singh, but now i think that procuring less nos. of rafales would hamper our defence preparedness.

 

[Windjammer]

salaam jammer bhiyye ... kaise ho

is this thread about Jags ?

is this thread about air crashes of IAF ?

or is that you are too paranoid after the news LCA is cleared for full production