Incident reported between a French and Turkish frigate in the Mediterranean

[JonAsad]

Since its a defence forum, someone should have compared the capabilities of two frigates in question already.. still waiting..

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Lol....do you see Europeans running around with Roman maps or even maps with Western European colonial empires? Grow up dude.

Yeah actually they do and I bet you are one of them too. Most of the Europeans I came across through the net has some weird "Roman" and "European superiority (!) " fetish. Personally I do think that Europeans have this weird habit more than us Muslims. There are some people among us that has a map fetish as well but most of us does not care about it as much as the Europeans actually.

 

[Baybars Han]

Always are sore point for Europeans, but this map makes me very happy.

Lets not just look at Ottomans. Selçuks whooped the crusaders as well as Zengids and other Turkish kingdoms.

Also regarding the map, it actually grew more after Süleyman. The significance wasn't its size, it was the cities it had. Holding İstanbul is more important than all of Congo and Zimbabwe etc etc having Cairo, Jerusalem, Baghdad, Crimea, Mecca Medina(which was importnat before), access to nearly all the major sea ways and various chokepoints, and most important cities in the world and all the major religious sites except for Rome. The only jewel that was missing was Rome.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Lets not just look at Ottomans. Selçuks whooped the crusaders as well as Xengids and other Turkish kingdoms.

Güzel.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Güzel.

This one makes me happy as well but its off topic actually so let's stick with the topic...

 

[Constantin84]

Yeah actually they do and I bet you are one of them too. Most of the Europeans I came across through the net has some weird "Roman" and "European superiority (!) " fetish. Personally I do think that Europeans have this weird habit more than us Muslims. There are some people among us that has a map fetish as well but most of us does not care about it as much as the Europeans actually.

You can bet all you want, but I never paraded maps in here to troll people with what other men did centuries ago....in pdf it's always been a fetis of muslims yearning for past times

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

You can bet all you want, but I never paraded maps in here to troll people with what other men centuries ago....in pdf it's always been a fetis of muslims yearning for past times

I agree on the yearning but you cannot deny what I have said earlier. Yes we do yearn a lot actually but we never have some weird map fetish as much as the Europeans... Instead we care about the current situation more and discuss what we should do or have done. But that is common among every civilization and religion as well...

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

This one makes me happy as well but its off topic actually so let's stick with the topic...

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Tariq bin Ziyad RAA

İkbal:

These warriors/Ghazis, victorious, These worshippers of Yours,
Whom You have granted the will to win power in Your name;

Rest here:
http://iqbalurdu.blogspot.com/2011/04/bal-e-jibril-128-tariq-ki-dua.html?m=1

 

[Constantin84]

I agree on the yearning but you cannot deny what I have said earlier. Yes we do yearn a lot actually but we never have some weird map fetish as much as the Europeans... Instead we care about the current situation more and discuss what we should do or have done. But that is common among every civilization and religion as well...

I've never seen European posters posting such maps in here to troll. You can proove otherwise.

 

[LienNoir]

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