Inappropriate Language...

[Hassan Guy]

can you leave a list of words we can use

 

[VCheng]

Springy you're not getting it.
To an Indian it is offensive.

Those declaring that the offensive word is in use by Doordarshan would do well to take an Urdu dictionary and look up the word defined as "the state of being pure or clean". Yup, that is another famous banned word that is used. Pretty innocent and official, right?

 

[I.R.A]

Why is it that I have never heard them call me a Bharati ever????

Watch this video clip and count how many times he has used word "Bharati" that too for your army (and he is not trying to insult)................ you are being too insecure, we use it in a very normal way. In Urdu when you are describing someone's nationality you end the country Name with "Choti Yeeeey"

e.g. Iran ......... Irani, Nepal .......... Nepali, Saud ............... Saudi, Pakistan ........... Pakistani, Bangladesh ........... Bangladeshi and similarly from Bharat ......... Bharati


On the other hand the correct word is "Pakistani" and there is no need to abbreviate this word any further to P A K I to refer to Pakistanis. And a comparison at abbreviating a full word correct word Pakistani ......... that with use of a correct word "Bharti" is highly ignorant and misleading...................

https://www.google.com.pk/?gws_rd=cr,ssl&ei=7f36V-OXOISAabP6rfAP#q=bharti+wazir+e+azam

 

[Levina]

Watch this video clip and count how many times he has used word "Bharati" that too for your army (and he is not trying to insult)................ you are being too insecure, we use it in a very normal way. In Urdu when you are describing someone's nationality you end the country Name with "Choti Yeeeey"

e.g. Iran ......... Irani, Nepal .......... Nepali, Saud ............... Saudi, Pakistan ........... Pakistani, Bangladesh ........... Bangladeshi and similarly from Bharat ......... Bharati


On the other hand the correct word is "Pakistani" and there is no need to abbreviate this word any further to P A K I to refer to Pakistanis. And a comparison at abbreviating a full word correct word Pakistani ......... that with use of a correct word "Bharti" is highly ignorant and misleading...................

https://www.google.com.pk/?gws_rd=cr,ssl&ei=7f36V-OXOISAabP6rfAP#q=bharti+wazir+e+azam

It's not about the word but how it's used on the forum.
This is an observation by one of your mods, I'm glad he noticed it>>>

Used inappropriately it sounds insulting and is to the Indian members. We have to be fair here

@User You can call us whatever you like. But you earn respect when you give respect.
I've nothing more to add here.

 

[third eye]

Because the fool advising that has little knowledge

.... this thread is about using inappropriate language !

 

[I.R.A]

It's not about the word but how it's used on the forum.
This is an observation by one of your mods, I'm glad he noticed it>>>

I hope the moderator who noticed this has the powers too to look into the hearts of people to know the real intent. A commonly used word in Pakistani society gets recognised as a slur this is height of ignorance by the way.

@User[/USER] You can call us whatever you like. But you earn respect when you give respect.
I've nothing more to add here.

I would call people what they make me to feel about them............... it is as simple as that.

 

[Indika]

.... this thread is about using inappropriate language !

too late to the party some body already dropped the bomb.
[QUOTE- "lastofthepatriots, post- 8792577, member-171115"]Nobody gives a shit. In Urdu it's bharti.[/QUOTE]

 

[MilSpec]

Because the fool advising that has little knowledge that within India's own constitution whose official copy is here
http://lawmin.nic.in/olwing/coi/coi-english/coi-4March2016.pdf

states the following in its FIRST CLAUSE
PART I THE UNION AND ITS TERRITORY 1.
(1) India, that is Bharat, shall be a Union of States.
1[(2) The States and the territories thereof shall be as specified in the First Schedule.]
(3) The territory of India shall comprise— (a) the territories of the States; 2[(b) the Union territories specified in the First Schedule; and] (c) such other territories as may be acquired


So essentially your constitution is offensive to you?

Bharatha> Sanskrit name of India

Bharata > a legendary monarch of ancient India, after whom the epic Mahabhārata is named

Bhārat > India,

Bharatiya> Indian

Bharti> Hindu goddess of knowledge and music more commonly known as saraswati, also a common Indian girl name.

Bharoti> A common pronunciation of Bengalis of Bharatiya, but commonly used here on the forum by Pakistani members focusing on the "roti" part of the word to play of the act of crying or whining.

Hindian> Commonly refereed to Indian members to generalize all Indians as Hindus, quite common even with some title holders.

Indiot> Which might be Indian Idiot, or a rioting Indian , later might be farfetched as would be beyond the creativity of most here.

Ganga's > Use commonly by a TTC in an attempt to make it popular here on the forum, but as rest of the attempts, quite futile.

I actually have no problems with any of the terms above, or any other here.

 

[nair]

@WAJsal Good initiative..... There is a reason why this is the most popular forum in SA defence.....it is time to bring bak back the quality which we used to have...

 

[third eye]

May get some pointers fromhere :

https://defence.pk/threads/dwindling-quality-of-the-threads.24721/

@WAJsal

 

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Because the fool advising that has little knowledge that within India's own constitution whose official copy is here
http://lawmin.nic.in/olwing/coi/coi-english/coi-4March2016.pdf

states the following in its FIRST CLAUSE
PART I THE UNION AND ITS TERRITORY 1.
(1) India, that is Bharat, shall be a Union of States.
1[(2) The States and the territories thereof shall be as specified in the First Schedule.]
(3) The territory of India shall comprise— (a) the territories of the States; 2[(b) the Union territories specified in the First Schedule; and] (c) such other territories as may be acquired


So essentially your constitution is offensive to you?

Point where Indian constitution says the citizen of Bharat shall be called Bharti?

Corrected, but since Bharati is essentially the other name of saraswati.. it cannot be coined an insult.

Weird logic.

Saraswati = India = Bharat = Indian citizen?

 

[WAJsal]

The word is not banned, please read my post carefully.

We call it Bharat and Bharti in Urdu in Pakistan. Nothing inappropriate about it

Why is "Baharti" a banned word? Is beyond me.

Not that I use it, but it is perfectly normal Urdu word: "Baharti Wazir-e-Azam", "Baharti Cricket Team", "Baharti Fauj", "Baharti Adakaar"...

Taken from the country "Baharat", which is used in Hindi as well.

I have never heard it being used as an insult. I think it should not be banned, unless we want to ban "Urdu Language".

How is bharti a slang? in urdu indians are called bharti aswell... we didnt invent a slur>?

The word "bhakt" is hindi for follower.. and used mostly by indians for eachother.. for example RSS Bhakt... even indian media uses it..

So calm down a bit.

@WebMaster @Horus @Oscar How is Bharat a bad word? In Urdu India is refered to as Bharat...........Next thing you know we are not supposed to call Egypt Misur, Jordan Urdan, Britain Burtania, America Aumrica, China Cheen, Russia Roose and guess what, this list is huge. I know that the forum has it's policies and all, but this is outright ridiculous. If thats the way then i fine Koran spelling offensive as they should be Quran and hence i demand this rule implemented as well. Now that it's happening i don't want Non-Muslims mentioning anything Islamic because the way they mention them its offensive to me.

Maybe i didn't make it clear enough, never tough it'd be too tough to understand...
Here you go...

Using slang's like P A K I S and Bhartis inappropriately

The word itself is not banned, using it poorly is not allowed, simple. 'Bharti dogs', 'Bharti scums', 'bharti shits', should i go on? I think 'inappropriately' was enough in my initial post. Apparently not.
@Oscar , some clarification.
@Levina , these members failed to get the point. The word is not banned at all, much like we can't ban 'Pakistani'. Now using 'Pakistani', now using 'Pakistani' inappropriately is most defiantly banned. Wonder why we are getting so emotional for?

Please note: 'P A K I' is an insult. There is a difference. Bhartiya is not an insult.

 

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@WAJsal

What classify as an insult? Isn't because Pakistanis feel offended to be called as "P A K I", it is considered as slang or do we have linguistic mean of word "P A K I" which is offensive?

As far as Indians go, we mainly have two types-
1- Who do not feel nice to be called Bharti, since there is nothing as such.
2- Rest who are not bothered, but they wont approve this word either.

I specifically do not get this part -

The word itself is not banned, using it poorly is not allowed, simple. 'Bharti dogs', 'Bharti scums', 'bharti shits', should i go on? I think 'inappropriately' was enough in my initial post. Apparently not.

Replacing Bharti with Indian can be allowed? If not what the fuss with bharti only?

Change of heart?

Anyways, if bharti is allowed, then let it be. Rules are Rules.

 

[Spectre]

Corrected, but since Bharati is essentially the other name of saraswati.. it cannot be coined an insult.

Sure but just as every Pakistani would not be liked to be stereotyped by the moniker Abdul or Muhammad even though they may be renowned figures in Islam, an Indian would not liked to be called Bharti, a noun which is sporadically used as a first name for girls not to be confused by Bhartiya which is a national identity.

 

[Djinn]

Maybe i didn't make it clear enough, never tough it'd be too tough to understand...
Here you go...

Perhaps things would have been clearer if they actually were clear to begin with? First you lumped **** with Bhaarti where as **** is an insult and Bhaarti isn't..........Which you have accepted in your later post and not in the OP. Secondly "inappropriate" emphasis is pretty much inappropriate itself........Calling anyone dog or attaching other insulting words are already banned and that extends to all nationalities.