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In two years, Indian navy may lose sub-sea edge over Pakistan

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The accident on board Russian-built INS Sindhuratna comes at time when the Indian Navy is grappling with fast deteriorating underwater force levels.

The navy is projected to lose its sub-sea superiority against Pakistan over the next two years. Also, it is nowhere close to China in terms of its submarine fleet.

The Indian Navy currently operates 12 submarines. However, the “viable strength” of India’s submarine arm is much less, factoring in the operational availability of the boats.


By 2015, the force will be left with merely five to six submarines as it begins phasing out the Russian Kilo-class and German HDW Type 209 submarines.

The size of India’s submarine fleet will roughly be the same as that of the Pakistani Navy in two years. The Pakistan Navy has a fleet of five to six submarines.

China currently operates more than 50 submarines and has chalked out plans to build 15 additional Yuan-class attack submarines.

Even as China scales up its underwater capabilities swiftly, Indian navy’s submarine force levels would be at its lowest in history by 2015, as reported by HT last April, quoting from a confidential defence ministry report. The report had then warned India had “never before been poised in such a vulnerable situation” and the undersea force levels were “at a highly precarious state.”

“As this critical (undersea) capability is eroded, there is an inverse increase in both capability and strength of the Chinese and Pakistani navies,” the report warned. Six Scorpene submarines are currently being built at the Mazagon Dock Ltd in Mumbai with technology from French firm DCNS under a Rs. 23,562-crore project codenamed P-75. But the first of these boats will not be ready before 2016-17.

In the wake of the recent accidents, the defence ministry may ask the navy to carry out a “safety stand-down,” a designated time for crews to focus on safety-related matters and training to deal with the daunting challenge of reducing mishaps.

In two years, Indian navy may lose sub-sea edge over Pakistan - Hindustan Times
 
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Too many errors in article especially with numbers and specualtions but some truth also especially with availability at any moment of the active SSKs especially Kilos.
PS: Type 209s are in good condition and would be upgraded soon so they won't retired so early as article claims.
 
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We are going to get 6 more from China. So the fleet size will more than what is listed above.
If we get those 6 submarines it would be game changer but we need to improve economy so we can also get more Frigates and Destroyers and Missile Boats
 
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We are going to get 6 more from China. So the fleet size will more than what is listed above.
We will get 6 scorpenes too and few more nuclear subs including second Akula and besides above numbers are wrong with some speculations.
 
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We are going to get 6 more from China. So the fleet size will more than what is listed above.

it will take time at least 5-8 years
 
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it will take time at least 5-8 years
Well it depends how much time we would take to train people for them because if ask China I hope they can produce 2 to 3 Submarines at single time without compromising quality because they have huge areas and man power to do it but How many people we can train is the question
 
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Well it depends how much time we would take to train people for them because if ask China I hope they can produce 2 to 3 Submarines at single time without compromising quality because they have huge areas and man power to do it but How many people we can train is the question
Its not about quality,time or training but money.
 
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Pakistan Navy is not an offensive force, though we are strengthening our naval arm gradually, but it would take some time to be a striking force, but India should worry about the decreasing capability of their submarine fleet...they need to replace those aging subs at a quick pace to protect their interests effectively in the Indian ocean against China. :yes4:
 
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No point fighting, Bangladesh is going to take over everybody when it comes to sub-sea presence.


Pakistan Navy is not an offensive force, though we are strengthening our naval arm gradually, but it would take some time to be a striking force, but India should worry about the decreasing capability of their submarine fleet...they need to replace those aging subs at a quick pace to protect their interests effectively in the Indian ocean against China. :yes4:

We have already lost years here because the govt wants to use the money for buying votes :(

The vote buying has been so expensive this time, that even the new govt may not have enough dosh!!!
 
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Pakistan must be happy .Pakistan must attack India now so they can defeat India because India's submarines are useless.:-)
 
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