In long-suffering Afghanistan, this is a peace deal worth trying

[Meengla]

The question is: will Afghan elite accept Pakistans territorial integrity? If yes then good, if not then no chance of peace.

Nah.. The Durand Line issue is not on Afghan minds as a viable option.. Just as taking back Alaska is not a viable option for Russia...

 

[Zhukov]

The problem is after defeating Britain, Soviet Union and USA, the Afghans don't need to listen to anyone and no one is in a position to dictate to them anything. Like a dangerous herd of buffaloes they will only quieten down when they have a good feed to keep them busy.

I dont think this analysis of Afghans beating British Soviets and USA that correct.
The KINGDOM of Afghanistan fought the british to a stalemate with full support of Russia. It was a cohesive state back then. Not group of militias like today.

Soviet union was never defeated by Afghanistan. Infact the same Afghan army from previous Kingdom was converted into Communist Afghan Army Which fought the Mujahideen rebels. Mostly Afghans died on both sides. Soviet union was largely supporting the Communist government in kabul. Infact if Soviet Union had not faced the stupid reforms of Gorbachev which led to economic disaster and dissolution, Afghan Mujahideen would have been history long ago. Even after the fall of the soviets, mujahideen could not topple the Kabul Government. It was the rise of a new group TALIBAN who toppled and executed remenants of socialist Afghanistan.
While USA made the new kabul government against Taliban using mostly the old mujahideen factions and some old communist allies like dostam.
Afghans have not win a S*** after British wars. All they do is fight each other and destroy their country even more. Some afghans side with one foreign power some side with another and they keep fighting like dogs. Its not victory. Its stupidity. Nobody want to rule pile of rubbish. Na dthe rubbish thinks it is invincible and unconquerable.
Unfortunately at the end its the common afghan people who suffer in this madness of warlords, religious zealots and Opportuinists

 

[insight-out]

If peace deal is reached, it will be a massive advantage for Pakistan. China and Pakistan will step in, extend CPEC till the caspean sea. Pakistan should put all its efforts in establishing peace.

Why would the US allow this to happen then?

 

[Meengla]

I dont think this analysis of Afghans beating British Soviets and USA that correct.
The KINGDOM of Afghanistan fought the british to a stalemate with full support of Russia. It was a cohesive state back then. Not group of militias like today.

Soviet union was never defeated by Afghanistan. Infact the same Afghan army from previous Kingdom was converted into Communist Afghan Army Which fought the Mujahideen rebels. Mostly Afghans died on both sides. Soviet union was largely supporting the Communist government in kabul. Infact if Soviet Union had not faced the stupid reforms of Gorbachev which led to economic disaster and dissolution, Afghan Mujahideen would have been history long ago. Even after the fall of the soviets, mujahideen could not topple the Kabul Government. It was the rise of a new group TALIBAN who toppled and executed remenants of socialist Afghanistan.
While USA made the new kabul government against Taliban using mostly the old mujahideen factions and some old communist allies like dostam.
Afghans have not win a S*** after British wars. All they do is fight each other and destroy their country even more. Some afghans side with one foreign power some side with another and they keep fighting like dogs. Its not victory. Its stupidity. Nobody want to rule pile of rubbish. Na dthe rubbish thinks it is invincible and unconquerable.
Unfortunately at the end its the common afghan people who suffer in this madness of warlords, religious zealots and Opportuinists

Agreed. This should be a Sticky post!

 

[Zhukov]

They will be fighting on exactly how many parts it should be divided into. Shall the neighbors just take whatever they can leaving Kabul to Ghani?

Not possible in the current world order specially when It is under USA Protection. And Neighbors are weak countries like Iran, Pakistan, Uzbekistan etc
Land Grab Rights are exclusive to Russia, USA/NATO and China now a days.
Only viable solution is independent smaller States (which is also not likely as India, Pakistan and Iran all three have regional ambitions and will not leave the newly formed states alone.)

 

[TNT]

Why would the US allow this to happen then?

Well the US knew this was happening and hence took Afghanistan but they cannot hold it. The political and financial costs are too much and hence US will leave. It will still try to block this plan with other means (use indian n Afghan puppets) but im sure china and Pakistan will get through it.