In Iran nobody follows the line of the Mullahs

[Abdi-Karim Elmi]

I don't see any difference between Mohammad Reza and his father.Both were the same.He was a British agent,while his son was the Ameican version.

True but the past is the past now. Iran today is a mess. It gonna get blown up soon if people don't do something..

Probably a secular democracy indeed. A secular democracy that would need to find a way to completely destroy the religious infrastructure of the mullahs so they can't play a significant role again in the Iranian political scene. Take revenge on Saudi Arabia? I think a Iranian democracy is more a threat to the Saudi's than this regime. A new Iran (without sanctions) would get a huge economically boost and probably eventually will surpass Turkey's economy.

Well a perso-turk allience would shatter SA. I hope if that happens both nations would benifit from.trade and energy demands. What would SA reaction would be if the iranians do indeed ecome secular and powerful economically? In your opinion.

 

[Serpentine]

True but the past is the past now. Iran today is a mess. It gonna get blown up soon if people don't do something..

Iran is not a mess as you are saying.Indeed it has its downs.Why is Iran going to blow up?
Right now a revolution is the worst thing for Iran.Because in case of any revolts,Iran's Arab neighbors (which are well know as back stabbers) will do to Iran what they are doing to Syria right now and even Iraq.They are sitting in the dark,like jackals to find the proper moment and stab Iran in the back,and you know better how good they are at training,financing and sending Salafi extremists to Iran.Iran will be a safe haven for terrorists,suicide bombers, Al-Qaeda and other Salafi extremists.Even if the majority of Iranian oppose the current regime (which they are not,at least now),they need to prepare everything to a soft transition(without violence).Believe me,the moment this government is opposed by Iranians,its gone.

 

[Surenas]

Well a perso-turk allience would shatter SA. I hope if that happens both nations would benifit from.trade and energy demands. What would SA reaction would be if the iranians do indeed ecome secular and powerful economically? In your opinion.

The Saudi's will fear such co-operation. It's in their interest to divide the Middle East between this Sunni-Shia schism, so a possible collaboration between Turkey and Iran is doomsday for them. SA reaction would probably be to stop or delay Iranian (economic) development in the Middle East and seek to have a strong sunni Arab bloc so they can stand up against a new Iran.

 

[Abdi-Karim Elmi]

Probably a secular democracy indeed. A secular democracy that would need to find a way to completely destroy the religious infrastructure of the mullahs so they can't play a significant role again in the Iranian political scene. Take revenge on Saudi Arabia? I think a Iranian democracy is more a threat to the Saudi's than this regime. A new Iran (without sanctions) would get a huge economically boost and probably eventually will surpass Turkey's economy. I don't think American aid is needed, although foreign assistance on rebuilding Iran would be helpful.

Just imagine all the opportunities Iran will have when this regime and ideology is gone!

Yes but SA is gonna go beserk. They many allow it. They gonna use wahabi oil money to create havoc...

 

[Surenas]

They are sitting in the dark,like jackals to find the proper moment and stab Iran in the back,and you know better how good they are at training,financing and sending Salafi extremists to Iran.

My god, they really have scared the **** out of you guys in Iran. You really think Salafi extremists will mess up Iran? First of all, a Arabic speaking terrorist organization will never have a base in Iran. How do you think they can participate in Iran's society, while they even can't speak the language nor they will find any sympathy by the Iranian people.

And most Iranians do oppose the current regime.

 

[Abdi-Karim Elmi]

*They not gonna allow it

 

[INDIC]

First Iranians supported Mullahs against Shah and in consequent decades started asking for reforms. During Mohammad Khatami's era there were lot of liberalization. Can some Iranian explain this phenomenon.

 

[Serpentine]

My god, they really have scared the **** out of you guys in Iran. You really think Salafi extremists will mess up Iran? First of all, a Arabic speaking terrorist organization will never have a base in Iran. How do you think they can participate in Iran society, while they even can't speak the language nor they will find any sympathy by the Iranian people.

And most Iranians do oppose the current regime.

No disrespect Surenas,but are you blind?Look at Iraq and Syria.Look how many death squads are sent there everyday.
I never said we are scared of them.No one scare Arabs.The thing we scare is seeing extremists and suicide bombers in Iran.Believe me,when Iran is in revolts,the easiest thing for terrorist is entering Iran and doing dirty jobs.

You are living outside of Iran,so it's not strange from you thinking the majority oppose the regime.I am living inside Iran and I'm telling you still,the majority supports it.Lots of Iranian members here who admit it.

senin bu iran askin nerden geliyor? cabuk degistir o bayragini hain. bi siteye bak verdigi linkteki .

had to say something in turkish.

bi seni thank yapanlara bak , tam turkiye dusmanlari , turklere olmadik hakareti yapanlar , sen turk olmayi hak etmiyorsun hain.

First of all,talk English,this is not a Turkish forum
Secondly I understand what you are saying.He doesn't need to change his flag,he is speaking sane.You are probably one of those Pan Turks who see all non Turks as lower humans.You are the real traitor to Turkish people,not him.

 

[Grand-Vizier]

Probably a secular democracy indeed. A secular democracy that would need to find a way to completely destroy the religious infrastructure of the mullahs so they can't play a significant role again in the Iranian political scene. Take revenge on Saudi Arabia? I think a Iranian democracy is more a threat to the Saudi's than this regime. A new Iran (without sanctions) would get a huge economically boost and probably eventually will surpass Turkey's economy. I don't think American aid is needed, although foreign assistance on rebuilding Iran would be helpful.

Just imagine all the opportunities Iran will have when this regime and ideology is gone!

You seem to love the west and europe so much , even more than your country , instead you should stay their then , and you seem to like israel more than your country.

 

[Surenas]

No disrespect Surenas,but are you blind?Look at Iraq and Syria.Look how many death squads are sent there everyday.
I never said we are scared of them.No one scare Arabs.The thing we scare is seeing extremists and suicide bombers in Iran.Believe me,when Iran is in revolts,the easiest thing for terrorist is entering Iran and doing dirty jobs.

No, you are blind. You talk about Iraq and Syria, while their societies are much different to Iran's society. They are Arab countries with a strong fundamentalist movement presented in their communities. Iran is a non-Arab, urban and highly literate country. Those terrorist wouldn't have a base in Iran nor are a serious threat to Iran's future.

You are living outside of Iran,so it's not strange from you thinking the majority oppose the regime.I am living inside Iran and I'm telling you still,the majority supports it.Lots of Iranian members here who admit it.

I'm living outside Iran, while have daily contact with Iranians in Iran and I'm hearing their frustrations occasionally. Most people don't support the regime and you know it. Those Iranian military fanboys here don't represent the Iranian people. Why don't you understand that? Go to another forum with Iranians and the anti-regime sentiments are much stronger.

 

[Grand-Vizier]

wasnt iran tottaly controlled from inside by american and britian in shah era , with the SAVAK or something

 

[Serpentine]

No, you are blind. You talk about Iraq and Syria, while their societies are much different to Iran's society. They are Arab countries with a strong fundamentalist movement presented in their communities. Iran is a non-Arab, urban and highly literate country. Those terrorist wouldn't have a base in Iran nor are a serious threat to Iran's future.

I'm living outside Iran, while have daily contact with Iranians in Iran and I'm hearing their frustrations occasionally. Most people don't support the regime and you know it. Those Iranian military fanboys here don't represent the Iranian people. Why don't you understand that? Go to another forum with Iranians and the anti-regime sentiments are much stronger.

Remember at the first years of revolution,how MeK conducted it's terrorist activities easily?How easy they killed normal people?Those were Iranians,and as you know,there are lots of betrayers who live inside and outside of Iran and are willing to do any dirty job.You sure have heard of those Quasi Iranians who are sitting in U.S and other countries and sending letters to Obama to attack Iran.These people exist Surenas.

 

[Surenas]

Remember at the first years of revolution,how MeK conducted it's terrorist activities easily?How easy they killed normal people?Those were Iranians,and as you know,there are lots of betrayers who live inside and outside of Iran and are willing to do any dirty job.You sure have heard of those Quasi Iranians who are sitting in U.S and other countries and sending letters to Obama to attack Iran.These people exist Surenas.

I know those people exists. Goli Ameri is one of them. Although they support a US attack on Iran's nuclear facilities, but I do think they wish the best for Iran and it's future. They just oppose the current fundamentalistic Iranian regime which is responsible for executing more than 30.000 political activists since the '79 revolution.

That post-revolution era is outdated and you can't compare that anarchic situation with a possible regime change in Iran.

 

[Abdi-Karim Elmi]

I know those people exists. Goli Ameri is one of them. Although they support a US attack on Iran's nuclear facilities, but I do think they wish the best for Iran and it's future. They just oppose the current fundamentalistic Iranian regime which is responsible for executing more than 30.000 political activists since the '79 revolution.

That post-revolution era is outdated and you can't compare that anarchic situation with a possible regime change in Iran.

Answer the question on SA

 

[Surenas]

Answer the question on SA

Which one?