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TEHRAN, Iran-- From the hotel room overlooking the Daneshjoo Park in Iran’s capital city, Tehran, one could see the beautiful park and the people spending their time there, and of course, also the rendezvous between young Iranian men and women.

But, there is also the repulsive scene of the moral police patrols in the area waiting to detain anyone who might veer off the path of morality. That, among other things, includes women who might have not fully covered their hair or are meeting with men who are not their immediate family members.

One can spot young men or women exchanging letters as they quickly pass by each other. They take the risk knowing full well that the moral police or plain-clothes might be watching them. But people seem intent not to give up on life.

“If people turn their back on this little window of life, they will not be able to live,” said Mohammed, a 24 year-old man in the park.

People who sit on the benches in the park seem to be there for different reasons. Some solve newspaper crossword puzzles; others just stare at things around them.

It’s a recurring scene to see young men and women to open their fists carefully to hand over or receive a written message from a member of the opposite sex.

Yards away, there is a police vehicle with tinted windows waiting to detain those they find guilty. The sense of security that the police hope to achieve in Tehran seems to be defined by how well covered their women are.

In Tehran, the streets look nice and green but it does not take long to discover life is not normal here. The strict laws and rules imposed by the state leave little space for people to breathe.

The sight of a young man and woman caught by a policeman reminded one of a cartoon where a prince and princes are caught by a monster.

I had a chance to meet Nasim who had been detained by the moral police a few days earlier. Her family and her boyfriend’s parents had been informed by the police about their relationship.

“Our family and relatives are all used to such things,” she sneered. “Nobody follows the line of the Mullahs here.”

She has been detained by the police several times for hanging out with men but released when her parents have visited the police station.

The police regularly stop young men and women and ask them if they are married, family members or they are having an extramarital relationship. The latter could land them in trouble.

Those detained for the first time are released after a notice to their parents. If caught for the second time, the person might be detained for several days.

Some lovers, whose families object to their marriage, turn in to the police to let their parents know about their relationship and make them face a fait accompli, which they hope would lead to marriage.

Nearly 350 kilometers away in Isfahan, one of the cultural and historical centers of Iran, a young man and a young girl are sitting under the famous Siyo Sepol Bridge. They can’t sit together for fear of the moral police. They use their cell-phones to communicate despite being less than a stone’s throw from each other. In the end, the man moves to where the woman is sitting and the lovers get to spend some time together.

Yards away, there are coffee shops where they serve non-alcoholic Islamic beers. The beer does not make the lovers drunk, but they appear to be drunk on the good time they have together.

It is a common scene in Iran to see people complain about the country’s conditions.

One taxi driver in Tehran who struggles to make ends meet could not help but compare the conditions in today’s Iran to the pre-revolution era when the Shah was in power.

He says despite the rampant corruption at the time of the dethroned monarch, some of the wealth was trickling down to the people. But that is not the case under the Mullah’s rule, he says.

“What good is an atomic bomb if we are hungry and live in misery,” he asks rhetorically.

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Well if you persian had the parthians and the early samaritan knights on your side in the arab invasion of sassinid iran then you would be in this mess.
 
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Well if you persian had the parthians and the early samaritan knights on your side in the arab invasion of sassinid iran then you would be in this mess.

I understand your thoughts, but it's meaningless to look at the past. The question is how we can give the Iranian people a better future.
 
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As far as i know from talking another western persian he told all army sections , police or all armed forces belongs to mullah , mullas appoint their men to stop any coup attemp againts islamic republic.If that is true iranians are screwed up because the more times passes the more isolation iran going under and thanks to isolation mullahs increase their influence without doubt.I don't see any near future iran can save itself from mullahs perhaps after a huge disaster or war defeat which could shake entire country.
 
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I understand your thoughts, but it's meaningless to look at the past. The question is how we can give the Iranian people a better future.

A strong revolution in which the youth disobey the athorities. A revolution that would not lead to civilwar or western involvement. Or science and defying the regime by student mass learning about evolution.

As far as i know from talking another western persian he told all army sections , police or all armed forces belongs to mullah , mullas appoint their men to stop any coup attemp againts islamic republic.If that is true iranians are screwed up because the more times passes the more isolation iran going under and thanks to isolation mullahs increase their influence without doubt.I don't see any near future iran can save itself from mullahs perhaps after a huge disaster or war defeat which could shake entire country.

Thank god for Ataturk. Just imagine if we had an Khomeni
 
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As far as i know from talking another western persian he told all army sections , police or all armed forces belongs to mullah , mullas appoint their men to stop any coup attemp againts islamic republic.If that is true iranians are screwed up because the more times passes the more isolation iran going under and thanks to isolation mullahs increase their influence without doubt.I don't see any near future iran can save itself from mullahs perhaps after a huge disaster or war defeat which could shake entire country.

I was thinking about the same. But I don't a (relatively) 'small' attack from Israel or the US can change the status quo. In fact, some people within the Iranian regime are just hoping for such attack. Because a Israeli attack give them a opportunity to crush the opposition in Iran.

Thank god for Ataturk. Just imagine if we had an Khomeni

You should indeed thank God for Ataturk. The Shah of Iran at that time was just to soft in dealing with the mullahs.
 
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I was thinking about the same. But I don't a (relatively) 'small' attack from Israel or the US can change the status quo. In fact, some people within the Iranian regime are just hoping for such attack. Because a Israeli attack give them a opportunity to crush the opposition in Iran.



You should indeed thank God for Ataturk. The Shah of Iran at that time was just to soft in dealing with the mullahs.


Imagine if the mullahs did fall, how would a post IRI iran turn out to be? A secular democracy that needs to work hard on development? Would the iranian people take revenge on saudi arabia? Would it be sucessfull like Post wwII germany or japan? Would the USA do a mashall aid like programme to get iran back on its feet? Imagine if Iran replaces the Saudis in being the important oil supplier to the USA!
 
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You should indeed thank God for Ataturk. The Shah of Iran at that time was just to soft in dealing with the mullahs.
Trying to show the Shah as the good man.Can't fool others.
Shah was a pure puppet and only a proxy of U.S who was ruling Iran.He was a betrayer,he could be a good person and leader,but after 1953 coup,he became a ruthless dictator.If he treated Iranians well,maybe we wouldn't need any revolution at all.He saw American interests on top of Iranian interests.I can't even think about someone like him (or his son) to rule Iran again.

And about 1979 revolution,it wasn't just Mullahs who toppled the Shah,more than 95% of Iranians were sick of him.Almost all political groups,from Islamists to communists and liberals opposed him.
 
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Trying to show the Shah as the good man.Can't fool others.
Shah was a pure puppet and only a proxy of U.S who was ruling Iran.He was a betrayer,he could be a good person and leader,but

I'm was talking about his father, Einstein.
 
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If that's the views of majority Iranians then they don't have to worry, in no time 'mullahs' would be replaced by a fun indulging regime. No regime can survive without the consent of people. But instead of being just reactive people should first find a better replacement. No one should indulge a thought that a government, irrespective of form, would solve all their grievances. Ironically our grievances don't just go away, they only change forms.
 
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Imagine if the mullahs did fall, how would a post IRI iran turn out to be? A secular democracy that needs to work hard on development? Would the iranian people take revenge on saudi arabia? Would it be sucessfull like Post wwII germany or japan? Would the USA do a mashall aid like programme to get iran back on its feet? Imagine if Iran replaces the Saudis in being the important oil supplier to the USA!

Probably a secular democracy indeed. A secular democracy that would need to find a way to completely destroy the religious infrastructure of the mullahs so they can't play a significant role again in the Iranian political scene. Take revenge on Saudi Arabia? I think a Iranian democracy is more a threat to the Saudi's than this regime. A new Iran (without sanctions) would get a huge economically boost and probably eventually will surpass Turkey's economy. I don't think American aid is needed, although foreign assistance on rebuilding Iran would be helpful.

Just imagine all the opportunities Iran will have when this regime and ideology is gone!
 
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