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IN has significantly surpass China in financial investments in the moderniz

Let's see.

India: 46.96B for 101 ships = 460M per ship
China: 23.99B for 113 ships = 210M per ship


India will overpay more than double for about the same number of ships. What's hilarious is the title, "India has significantly surpass China in financial investments in the modernization of the country's Navy." It's like, we have been fooled into paying twice to buy this thing but at least we outspend the next guy.

It's clearly propaganda spinning at the Indian audience to avoid scrutiny on the inflated cost. And it's working! Judging from the cheering from the gullible members in this thread.


A Aircraft carrier is called warship and a destroyer is also called a warship
A nuke submarine is called warship and a diesel submarine is also called warship...

But their cost has large difference..
hope u got the logic
 
Indian Navy will get vikramaditya 2012..so it will be 2 AC in 2012 and the one india is building in cochin shipyard will be ready by 2014...

And 1 nuke submarine arihant will be inducted in 2012 and the other nuke sub aridaman is near completion...
 
So it just simply means, even with cheaper manpower, cheaper electricity and raw materials we will be spending twice as much as China while constructing lesser number of warships than China. Good to know that corruption will continue to rise...

nah




the difference in prices is due to

1. Import of technology and TOT agreements required to be signed by India

if u carefully look at the figures then
out of 50 billion USD to be spend on navy
10 billion will be spend on purchase of 6 AIP equiped subs and related TOT
4 billion will be spend on purchase of 4 LPD/LHD
these are just the amt spend on purchase of 10 foreign designed ships
additional amt will be spend on purchase of Marine diesel engines required for carriers , destroyers and frigates since we cannot build engines for very large ships
other amount will be spend on weapons systems and sensor suites


2. Second reason for this price gap is due to difference in tonnage of vessels being acquired by India and china
for instance china will acquire missile boats weighing 500-700 tons while India will acquire missile boats weighing 2200 tons which will infact replace 1800 tons Sukanya class missile boats
similarly china will acquire 4000 tons frigates while India will acquire 6200 tons frigates
Its just like this
Barring the Aircraft carriers , an average ships being inducted by Indian navy will be larger than those inducted by PLAN

3. barring the labour costs all other costs are actuallly lower in china
 
Not even a single official document is available for assessment of Dragon's power. It might be too strong but it can also be much weaker than we estimate..

well i know no official document is available but we can always go by SIPRI reports or reports they r pretty much accurate abt the number of vessels.
 
It makes sense for India to have a good navy seeing the size of her shorelines.

Agreed on post no 2 though no comparison needed

Moving along
 
nah




the difference in prices is due to

1. Import of technology and TOT agreements required to be signed by India

if u carefully look at the figures then
out of 50 billion USD to be spend on navy
10 billion will be spend on purchase of 6 AIP equiped subs and related TOT
4 billion will be spend on purchase of 4 LPD/LHD
these are just the amt spend on purchase of 10 foreign designed ships
additional amt will be spend on purchase of Marine diesel engines required for carriers , destroyers and frigates since we cannot build engines for very large ships
other amount will be spend on weapons systems and sensor suites


2. Second reason for this price gap is due to difference in tonnage of vessels being acquired by India and china
for instance china will acquire missile boats weighing 500-700 tons while India will acquire missile boats weighing 2200 tons which will infact replace 1800 tons Sukanya class missile boats
similarly china will acquire 4000 tons frigates while India will acquire 6200 tons frigates
Its just like this
Barring the Aircraft carriers , an average ships being inducted by Indian navy will be larger than those inducted by PLAN

3. barring the labour costs all other costs are actuallly lower in china
You are right partly...but i am not wrong either...People at MDL are buying cars, ACs etc. with the money sanctioned for the warships.....then what will you expect..??
 
Just self prising thing...........these kind of thread's must not be even started.....................Even if India is buying something......that will not make her better........wherease china is developing, not buying.

Correction china not developing but copying, And to be frank copying is not bad in this field from us, ussr copying from Nazi to current world order. But the news is really crap how we suddenly surpass China, may be in 20yrs as said, all we need is deterrent against any mis adventure and i know INDIA is ready even now why wait 20 yrs go test and see.
 
So it just simply means, even with cheaper manpower, cheaper electricity and raw materials we will be spending twice as much as China while constructing lesser number of warships than China. Good to know that corruption will continue to rise...

But the quality wont be cheaper like :china:.
 
You must be dumb enough to use IQ as a measurement.

The content that you exhibited in your last post certainly is driven from the IQ you have.

I am not questioning your knowledge, rather I am questioning your analysis skills.
 
A Aircraft carrier is called warship and a destroyer is also called a warship
A nuke submarine is called warship and a diesel submarine is also called warship...

But their cost has large difference..
hope u got the logic

Yes, but does this figure include the amount that India has to overpaid for the refurbished Russian heavy cruiser that was converted into an aircraft carrier? Just curious.
 
Once think of IAF at 2050.
Current gen aircrafts
400+ PAK FA/FGFA
300+ AMCA
300+ New 5g MRCA
Previous generation Aircrafts
300+ Super30's
100+MRCA's
200+Tejas Mk2/3
soon to be replaced by next generation aircrafts.
 
Yes, but does this figure include the amount that India has to overpaid for the refurbished Russian heavy cruiser that was converted into an aircraft carrier? Just curious.

How do you know we overpaid?

Did you account for the inflation, change in currencies valuation, the costing of each and every component that is to be fit on the A/C carrier?

Such random questions do not make sense.
 
The content that you exhibited in your last post certainly is driven from the IQ you have.

I am not questioning your knowledge, rather I am questioning your analysis skills.

You should question your own capacity to understand and reason since your posts clearly demonstrate the lack of both.
 
How do you know we overpaid?

Did you account for the inflation, change in currencies valuation, the costing of each and every component that is to be fit on the A/C carrier?

Such random questions do not make sense.

The Indian government deemed it's overpriced. Comptroller and Auditor General of India (CAG) criticised that Vikramaditya would be a second-hand warship with a limited life span, which will be 60 percent costlier than a new one. But I don't expect you understand the issue. It's ok. Slow learners usually seem happier. By all means think of it as a cheap buy if that makes you feel good.
 

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