In China, 'Xi Forever' May Not Be Forever, After All

[yjdlbcj]

Another Dengist simpleton, you can't even construct a single argument of your own.

You think you're right, no problem. Don't impose to others, I don't think that JIANG is good, so that when the HU in the power behind the throne.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

You think you're right, no problem. Don't impose to others, I don't think that JIANG is good, so that when the HU in the power behind the throne.

You think Jiang is not good, but President Xi himself is more aligned with Jiang than Hu.

Hu Jintao wanted President Xi to pass his power to Hu Chunhua (another Dengist puppet), but President Xi refused to relinquish his power to a weak puppet, and now Hu Chunhua has been abdicated as President Xi's successor.

All China needs is the toughness of the Maoism for the military combined with the pragmatism of Jiang's Shanghai faction for the economy, and we need to fully get rid of the Dengism, since it is a corrupt liability for us.

 

[yjdlbcj]

Xi Jinping is a bold man and is obviously in power over the first 2, and I hope he can bring China to prosperity. I think he can!

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Xi Jinping is a bold man and is obviously in power over the first 2, and I hope he can bring China to prosperity. I think he can!

He forced Hu Chunhua to abdicate as the official successor which is already a huge blow to Hu Jintao and the Dengists.

BTW, Hu Jintao's son now is also at the mercy of President Xi's iron fist, that's why he has to prove his loyalty by showing his support to President Xi's new constitution.

 

[Mista]

You want to express you are at choke point but you external enviornment is terrible, and it is not you control the sea route?!

Yes, it is not you, We can understand difficulty you faced, but something you can decide.

No, the part on the Malacca is a different point.

I wanted to say there's nothing inevitable about Singapore's success, or even as a survival as a nation back then. Things could go very wrong very easily and we were lucky that things turn out well.

Back then our future was bleak, and people had little hopes. Compare us to large countries like China or India, where the people are optimistic because they know they are big. As long as there's stability, big countres will grow and gain their rightful place in the world in due time.

Malaysia kicked us out because they think we wouldn't survive, and we would beg them to accept us and crawl back on Malay terms. Why else do you think the Malaysian parliament voted 126–0 in favor of the expulsion of Singapore? Which country will unanimously vote in favor to throw away a part of their country?

But of course, when we look back from today people will say "Ah, Singapore is small. Easy to govern and prosper." So I say to them, what if it's your city getting kicked out of the country and constantly getting harassed? Can Hong Kong for example survive without the blessings of the mainland if she goes independent, much less getting harassed militarily and economically by the mainland? Can your city raise an army credible enough to be a deterrent?

 

[ddlee96969]

Well, there's a saying 时势造英雄. He himself say he was the product of the times, when Singapore suffered under the Japanese occupation.

When Singapore was kicked out of Malaysia, LKY led a newly independent country which was fragile and vulnerable to surrounding threats. He managed to prove himself in the time of crisis and turn the country around.

But like what his son said before, we mustn't expect another LKY to appear again in Singapore. Even if someone more capable than him appears, he wouldn't achieve as much as him unless Singapore falls into a national survival crisis again.

So Xi can't really be compared with Mao or Deng. China today isn't experiencing the same level of crisis during their times.



If he was really anti-China, he wouldn't have advised Deng to open up China when he visited Singapore.

Or send his right hand man Goh Keng Swee (the man who set up our sovereign wealth fund https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/new-...st-sovereign-funds.328675/page-6#post-9356530) to serve as an economic advisor in China.

Or provide administration training for 50,000 Chinese officials, including Xi himself.

Or continued to invest in China despite calls from Western sanctions after the Tiananmen incident.

Or spoke to two members of Bill Clinton's Cabinet and helped to break the impasse between the US and China on the issue of China entering the WTO.

But I guess since China has already become mighty and strong today, Singapore is just a lapdog of the US in the eyes of nationalistic Chinese.

yes you are right xi have to face new situations during the new era. new situations will make new leader. i am very glad to hear that the new economy policy include a lot of suggestions . mahuateng(马化腾) mayun（马云） dinglei（丁磊）you may know them. they gave a lot help to the economy policy. it is very defferent from mao's times.
singapore is a great country in my eyes. and singapore is a exemplar of asia. china has a long way to go for example anti-poverty ,anti-occuption ,economic transition and age society .

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

No, the part on the Malacca is a different point.

I wanted to say there's nothing inevitable about Singapore's success, or even as a survival as a nation back then. Things could go very wrong very easily and we were lucky that things turn out well.

Back then our future was bleak, and people had little hopes. Compare us to large countries like China or India, where the people are optimistic because they know they are big. As long as there's stability, big countres will grow and gain their rightful place in the world in due time.

Malaysia kicked us out because they think we will not survive, and we will beg them to accept us and crawl back on Malay terms. Why else do you think the Malaysian parliament voted 126–0 in favor of the expulsion of Singapore? Which country will unanimously vote in favor to throw away a part of their country?

But of course, when we look back from today people will say "Ah, Singapore is small. Easy to govern and prosper." So I say to them, what if it's your city getting kicked out of the country and constantly getting harassed? Can Hong Kong for example survive without the blessings of the mainland if she goes independent, much less getting harassed militarily and economically by the mainland?

Face it, Singapore is just a freeloaded who absolutely depends on the traffic of the pivotal corridor. Without it, your economic will face a free fall over the cliff.

 

[ddlee96969]

We don't like Deng anymore, he was a corrupt leader, and his family is the most corrupt cartel in China's history.

Xi Jinping is truly draining the swamp, and the downfall of Anbang is just the beginning, and soon it will be the downfall of Deng's mafia family.

That's why all you anti-China clowns are now trembling in fear in front of a truly rising China.

we??? no no no . i like deng.you can express what you want but please do not represent me.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

yes you are right xi have to face new situations during the new era. new situations will make new leader. i am very glad to hear that the new economy policy include a lot of suggestions . mahuateng(马化腾) mayun（马云） dinglei（丁磊）you may know them. they gave a lot help to the economy policy. it is very defferent from mao's times.
singapore is a great country in my eyes. and singapore is a exemplar of asia. china has a long way to go for example anti-poverty ,anti-occuption ,economic transition and age society .

Singapore is just a parasite nation who leeches off the traffics of the strategic port.

President Xi is already showing a lot of contempt toward this bogger nation.

we??? no no no . i like deng.you can express what you want but please do not represent me.

And most of us despise Singapore, you don’t represent us either.

 

[Mista]

Face it, Singapore is just a freeloaded who absolutely depends on the traffic of the pivotal corridor. Without it, your economic will face a free fall over the cliff.

So what's Singapore's economic composition like?

 

[ddlee96969]

From my uncle when he came here long time ago. He's dead now.

Well, you're right about that.

you uncle? can your uncle represent all chinese?

 

[Brainsucker]

No, the part on the Malacca is a different point.

I wanted to say there's nothing inevitable about Singapore's success, or even as a survival as a nation back then. Things could go very wrong very easily and we were lucky that things turn out well.

Back then our future was bleak, and people had little hopes. Compare us to large countries like China or India, where the people are optimistic because they know they are big. As long as there's stability, big countres will grow and gain their rightful place in the world in due time.

Malaysia kicked us out because they think we will not survive, and we will beg them to accept us and crawl back on Malay terms. Why else do you think the Malaysian parliament voted 126–0 in favor of the expulsion of Singapore? Which country will unanimously vote in favor to throw away a part of their country?

But of course, when we look back from today people will say "Ah, Singapore is small. Easy to govern and prosper." So I say to them, what if it's your city getting kicked out of the country and constantly getting harassed? Can Hong Kong for example survive without the blessings of the mainland if she goes independent, much less getting harassed militarily and economically by the mainland? Can your city raise an army credible enough to be a deterrent?

Well, he's not entirely wrong. A small number of people means that it is easier for you to take your people out of poverty. But it doesn't mean that being a small country like Singapore doesn't has a huge challenge. The first concern always "Security". Facing Malaysia who considered you as separatist, and to become Indonesia's neighbor surely was not easy. And then how to earn money. As you don't have any natural resource in your country.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

So what's Singapore's economic composition like?

Just like a person depending on the food stamp, since you barely have any land to develop the manufacturing base.

Even Trump views you guys as freeloaders, that’s why he single-handedly destroyed the TPP.

Well, he's not entirely wrong. A small number of people means that it is easier for you to take your people out of poverty. But it doesn't mean that being a small country like Singapore doesn't has a huge challenge. The first concern always "Security". Facing Malaysia who considered you as separatist, and to become Indonesia's neighbor surely was not easy. And then how to earn money. As you don't have any natural resource in your country.

You don’t have any natural resources, that sucks for you.

That’s why President Xi can easily squash you like a bug, your fate is at his hand right now. It all depends on his mood, if your leader still persists his anti-China stance, then don’t blame President Xi’s coming punishment for Singapore in a unimaginable fashion.

 

[Brainsucker]

you uncle? can your uncle represent all chinese?

Did I say that my Uncle represent all Chinese? He told me what he saw. Just ask your father or grandfather about Zhou Enlai. He was really a great leader. Maybe even greater than Mao.

Just like a person depending on the food stamp, since you barely have any land to develop the manufacturing base.

Even Trump views you guys as freeloaders, that’s why he single-handedly destroyed the TPP.

You don’t have any natural resources, that sucks for you.

That’s why President Xi can easily squash you like a bug, your fate is at his hand right now. It all depends on his mood, if your leader still persists his anti-China stance, then don’t blame President Xi’s coming punishment for Singapore in a unimaginable fashion.

Be my guest, lol. I'm not even a Singaporean.

 

[ddlee96969]

Singapore is just a parasite nation who leeches off the traffics of the strategic port.

President Xi is already showing a lot of contempt toward this bogger nation.



And most of us despise Singapore, you don’t represent us either.

i did not say i can represent you but you said "we do not like deng anymore" .this is no my bussiness if you do not like deng or hate singapore. please change we to i