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BANDAR SERI BEGAWAN: At a time when the US is seeking to directly engage the Taliban, India's shift away from its own "no-truck-with Taliban" policy became evident on Tuesday, when foreign minister Salman Khurshid said New Delhi supported dialogue with all sections of the Afghan society and armed opposition groups "including the Taliban".

Although Khurshid, who was addressing a meeting of the Asean Regional Forum, stressed that any dialogue in Afghanistan must recognize all internationally accepted red lines, his remarks here amplified the shift in India's stand against Taliban's inclusion in negotiations with Afghanistan.

Elaborating on the approach, Khurshid said, 'But this process must be a broad based Afghan-led Afghan-owned reconciliation process, within the framework of the Afghan Constitution and internationally accepted red lines. This dialogue must involve all sections of the Afghan society and armed opposition groups, including the Taliban".

India had always maintained that it had strong reservations about talks with Taliban, arguing that the idea of "good Taliban" is an oxymoron. PM Manmohan Singh did say in a speech in Afghan Parliament in 2011 that India supported the reconciliation process in the war-torn country and that it would respect the choices made by its MPs, but refrained from mentioning Taliban.

The new openness to the prospect of Taliban's participation in reconciliation talks in Afghanistan coincides with the US's overtures towards the group whom it had encouraged to open an office in Doha.

The US has also said that the engagement with Taliban will not be at the cost of red lines. The red lines are diplomatic short hand for the insistence that Taliban agreed to abide by the constitution of Afghanistan, shun violence and commit to respect the rights of women and ethnic minorities.

Reiterating this during an intervention on exchange of views on regional and international issues here, Khurshid also said that India will remain engaged with Afghanistan.

"The reconciliation process must not undermine the legitimacy of the Afghan State and Government and the political, social and economic progress witnessed in Afghanistan over the past decade, to which members of the international community have contributed in great measure. I may emphasize here that India's Afghanistan policy does not have an exit policy. India has played an important role in the reconstruction and rehabilitation of Afghanistan," he said.

Without naming Pakistan, Khurshid said there was a need for joint and concerted efforts to dismantle terrorist sanctuaries and safe havens beyond Afghan borders and disrupt all financial and tactical support for terrorism.

"We must assist Afghanistan in its efforts to become a stable, democratic and pluralistic state. The international community must stay committed to Afghanistan in the form of development and security assistance during this period of transition and transformation," he said.

Khurshid also sought to draw attention to Pakistan's proliferation linkages with North Korea saying another area of deep concern to India was that of clandestine proliferation of WMD technologies which poses a grave threat to international security.

"With a view to address the risk of nuclear weapons, materials and technology falling into the hands of terrorists, India has been piloting a UN resolution in this regard for the past several years. In this context, the situation in the Korean peninsula and the DPRK's links to clandestine proliferation emanating from our neighbourhood deserves careful scrutiny," he said.

In change of stance, India supports talks with Taliban - The Times of India

So indians came on right track...

Now say 1000 Times... so you will never do msitake again write on your wall :D

Good Taliban ----- Bad Taliban

GOooD Taliban---- Bad Taliban

:omghaha: :omghaha:
 
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Its a good idea now, if you cant beat them, talk to them. It made no sense earlier.
India talks to many insurgents inside india, and after years of negotiation, many have agreed on some compromises.
 
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Now its a good idea.... so Good Taliban :D
@Imran Khan @Aeronaut

need your thoughts

its not good taliban, its pragmatism and realpolitics. We give amnesty to kashmiri militants, if they want to integrate. Many NE insurgents have talks with GoI after ceasefire.
First you pressurize them to come to negotiation table, then talk to them, then meet demands that you can meet.

Taliban is not our headache, it's for afgan people to decide, if large numbeer of people support taliban, talking to them is good idea. But there should be sufficient pressure on them.
 
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its not good taliban, its pragmatism and realpolitics. We give amnesty to kashmiri militants, if they want to integrate. Many NE insurgents have talks with GoI after ceasefire.
First you pressurize them to come to negotiation table, then talk to them, then meet demands that you can meet.

Taliban is not our headache, it's for afgan people to decide, if large numbeer of people support taliban, talking to them is good idea. But there should be sufficient pressure on them.

i think i should qoute indians previous posts regarding Talibans? right
 
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Facepalm... Tum karo to raam leela

no, the difference is you guys were supporting them.. we are supporting negotiation with them... nobody is supporting taliban..

i think i should qoute indians previous posts regarding Talibans? right

unlike others, my views are mine only. It has no influence on others, and I am not easily influenced by others.. :toast_sign:
am sure many indians will criticize GoI for saying this.
 
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no, the difference is you guys were supporting them.. we are supporting negotiation with them... nobody is supporting taliban..



unlike others, my views are mine only. It has no influence on others, and I am not easily influenced by others.. :toast_sign:
am sure many indians will criticize GoI for saying this.

emmm,,, how we are supporting them genuis?
 
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India are as diplomatic as a shovel of sh*t.

Even USA are annoyed with India if you check recent news.

Probably all those years they were communist scum. They have no concept how to create a win-win. They are too busy trying to create win-lose scenario. Pathetic.
 
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BANDAR SERI BEGAWAN: At a time when the US is seeking to directly engage the Taliban, India's shift away from its own "no-truck-with Taliban" policy became evident on Tuesday, when foreign minister Salman Khurshid said New Delhi supported dialogue with all sections of the Afghan society and armed opposition groups "including the Taliban".

Although Khurshid, who was addressing a meeting of the Asean Regional Forum, stressed that any dialogue in Afghanistan must recognize all internationally accepted red lines, his remarks here amplified the shift in India's stand against Taliban's inclusion in negotiations with Afghanistan.

Elaborating on the approach, Khurshid said, 'But this process must be a broad based Afghan-led Afghan-owned reconciliation process, within the framework of the Afghan Constitution and internationally accepted red lines. This dialogue must involve all sections of the Afghan society and armed opposition groups, including the Taliban".

India had always maintained that it had strong reservations about talks with Taliban, arguing that the idea of "good Taliban" is an oxymoron. PM Manmohan Singh did say in a speech in Afghan Parliament in 2011 that India supported the reconciliation process in the war-torn country and that it would respect the choices made by its MPs, but refrained from mentioning Taliban.

The new openness to the prospect of Taliban's participation in reconciliation talks in Afghanistan coincides with the US's overtures towards the group whom it had encouraged to open an office in Doha.

The US has also said that the engagement with Taliban will not be at the cost of red lines. The red lines are diplomatic short hand for the insistence that Taliban agreed to abide by the constitution of Afghanistan, shun violence and commit to respect the rights of women and ethnic minorities.

Reiterating this during an intervention on exchange of views on regional and international issues here, Khurshid also said that India will remain engaged with Afghanistan.

"The reconciliation process must not undermine the legitimacy of the Afghan State and Government and the political, social and economic progress witnessed in Afghanistan over the past decade, to which members of the international community have contributed in great measure. I may emphasize here that India's Afghanistan policy does not have an exit policy. India has played an important role in the reconstruction and rehabilitation of Afghanistan," he said.

Without naming Pakistan, Khurshid said there was a need for joint and concerted efforts to dismantle terrorist sanctuaries and safe havens beyond Afghan borders and disrupt all financial and tactical support for terrorism.

"We must assist Afghanistan in its efforts to become a stable, democratic and pluralistic state. The international community must stay committed to Afghanistan in the form of development and security assistance during this period of transition and transformation," he said.

Khurshid also sought to draw attention to Pakistan's proliferation linkages with North Korea saying another area of deep concern to India was that of clandestine proliferation of WMD technologies which poses a grave threat to international security.

"With a view to address the risk of nuclear weapons, materials and technology falling into the hands of terrorists, India has been piloting a UN resolution in this regard for the past several years. In this context, the situation in the Korean peninsula and the DPRK's links to clandestine proliferation emanating from our neighbourhood deserves careful scrutiny," he said.

In change of stance, India supports talks with Taliban - The Times of India

So indians came on right track...

Now say 1000 Times... so you will never do msitake again write on your wall :D

Good Taliban ----- Bad Taliban

GOooD Taliban---- Bad Taliban

:omghaha: :omghaha:

was expected! but came very late.
all in line with CIA,s next big thing!
a super suni state called talbanistan, fighting with shia iran?
all dam saudi,s & arabs supporting mullha omar. to fight a mighty iran?
is this the time to get, iranian oil wells?lol
 
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India is a "non player" in the negotiations. Its Taliban & America negotiating facilitated by Pakistan. India is no where in the calculus,hence their "stance" is invalid.Since India has tied up its cards with Northern Alliance regime in Kabul,they would have to wait until we bring the cake out.
 
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India is a "non player" in the negotiations. Its Taliban & America negotiating facilitated by Pakistan. India is no where in the calculus,hence their "stance" is invalid.Since India has tied up its cards with Northern Alliance regime in Kabul,they would have to wait until we bring the cake out.

Which is why realizing all of this, they have decided to make an about face to try and squirm their way into negotiations?
 
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BANDAR SERI BEGAWAN - At a time when the US is seeking to directly engage the Taliban, India's shift away from its own "no-truck-with Taliban" policy became evident on Tuesday, when foreign minister Salman Khurshid said New Delhi supported dialogue with all sections of the Afghan society and armed opposition groups "including the Taliban". Although Khurshid, who was addressing a meeting of the Asean Regional Forum, stressed that any dialogue in Afghanistan must recognise all internationally accepted red lines, his remarks here amplified the shift in India's stand against Taliban's inclusion in negotiations with Afghanistan. Elaborating on the approach, Khurshid said, “But this process must be a broad based, Afghan-led and Afghan-owned reconciliation process, within the framework of the Afghan Constitution and internationally accepted red lines. This dialogue must involve all sections of the Afghan society and armed opposition groups, including the Taliban". Without naming Pakistan, Khurshid said there was a need for joint and concerted efforts to dismantle terrorist sanctuaries and safe havens beyond Afghanistan’s borders and disrupt all financial and tactical support for terrorism. "We must assist Afghanistan in its efforts to become a stable, democratic and pluralistic state. The international community must stay committed to Afghanistan in the form of development and security assistance during this period of transition and transformation," he said. Meanwhile, Khurshid also sought to draw attention to Pakistan's proliferation linkages with North Korea saying another area of deep concern for India was that of clandestine proliferation of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) technologies which posed a grave threat to international security. "With a view to address the risk of nuclear weapons, materials and technology falling into the hands of terrorists, India has been piloting a UN resolution in this regard for the past several years. In this context, the situation in the Korean peninsula and the DPRK's links to clandestine proliferation emanating from our neighbourhood deserves careful scrutiny," he said. - See more at: India supports talks with Taliban; blames Pakistan for harbouring militants | Pakistan Today | Latest news | Breaking news | Pakistan News | World news | Business | Sport and Multimedia
 
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Kerry it seems worked his magic, looks like the taliban will gain some traction afterall.

The primary goal it seems is get the US out of that region because they have more pressing priorities elsewhere - South China Sea and Africa. The Afg-Pak region is in a big mess with a major civil war round the corner. Most countries are looking at letting the locals kill each other for a while.

I dont know how getting the taliban into the afghan government will be fruitful for the US, UK and India.
 
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