In a Freak Accident, MiG-27 Fighter Jet Falls on Biker in Rajasthan

[Etilla]

I thought it was the other way around 120 Jags and 150 Mig-27s. Anyway atleast 60 Jags out of total would be in IAF service for next 20 years of them 40 are less than 14 years old last rolled out in between 99 and 2002.

Yes you are right we have 200+ Mig27's but very few are air worthy mainly because of massive engine issues.
HAL has totally screwed up license manufacturing of Mig-27 engine and overhauling it

Dark secret behind mystery of the 'flying coffins' -The New Indian Express


So we have less than 100 in service rest are mothballed.


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100-110 of the 140-150 Jags being upgraded under DARIN-3 program so will have a good life.

37-40 were rolled out post 2000 and will have the same life span the Su-30's have.

HAL can make 40-50 more Jaguars under license if need be

Bottom line IAF has more Mig-27's than Jaguars but has more Jaguars flying and operational than Mig-27.

The Rafale when inducted will go first to replace Mig-27 and not Mig-21.

 

[airmarshal]

while we are talking about this accident, I would like to know how good is a MiG-27? Is it as good as Jaguar?

Yes you are right we have 200+ Mig27's but very few are air worthy mainly because of massive engine issues.
HAL has totally screwed up license manufacturing of Mig-27 engine and overhauling it

Dark secret behind mystery of the 'flying coffins' -The New Indian Express

Screw up or corruption? It can be corruption too. Just wondering.

 

[Etilla]

while we are talking about this accident, I would like to know how good is a MiG-27? Is it as good as Jaguar?



Screw up or corruption? It can be corruption too. Just wondering.

Screw up by HAL which simply lacks the ability to overhaul a basic trainer. Corruption in HAL as it is corrupt to the core.

How good it was in the 80's when it was a prime fighter i don't know honestly but as of 2015 Jaguar is miles ahead of Mig-27 in ever aspect

IAF has inducted the MBDA AIM-132 ASRAAM (300 meters- 50km range) as a dual WVR/BVR missile for Jaguar.

It has the MBDA/Matra 550 Magic and 530D missile and the Russian R-73,27. These four missiles are on all IAF platforms as we have full ToT for them and are free to do what we please.

Jaguar has the EL/M 2032 Israeli radar with the 150km A2A range and 300km A2G/A2S range. (The real deal not the hybrid bullshit on Tejas)

IAF has inducted the latest Harpoon Block II missiles for a maritime strike Jaguar IM variant squadron at Jamnagar (Gujarat coast so will be massive threat to all PN assets)

Jaguar is basically fanged to the core. Its a close call between 3.5 gen and 4 gen.

Here some stuff on the ongoing DARIN-3 MLU of the Jaguar

Indian Air Force DARIN upgrades for SEPECAT Jaguar | Defence Aviation

Best thing is the new Honeywell engine will increase external weapon payload from current 4.5 ton to 6.5 ton and give the Jaguar ability for Himalaya ops ( in other words do the same job M2K did back in 1999 in Kargil)

 

[Stephen Cohen]

how dare you... sanghis are such thankless people.

that sanghi drdo cannot build planes so it buys them, and when the structures and engines get old, as they will, it insults them.

just because sanghis were salivating for western planes, they began calling the mig-21's as "flying coffins"... what was it... did the stars above, in year 2000, suddenly declared the mig-21's to stop working?? other militaries still use mig-21.

do you think your favorites, western planes and armaments, last 500 years??

sanghis are such slaves... and "more loyal to the king than the king himself".

and what is that user-name of yours?? why some capitalist anti-islam obscene bigot fool "expert"??

What are you trying to say

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Good thing no lives were lost...

 

[jamahir]

What are you trying to say

it all began with your remark against a armament from the eastern bloc... your remark seemed automatic and ideological.

 

[doppelganger]

As a biker this incident is giving me chills.

As if riding in India was not dangerous enough.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

it all began with your remark against a armament from the eastern bloc... your remark seemed automatic and ideological.

Excuse me but is this how you react in real life too
You are a CRAZY person

Secondly Mig 29 ; Su 30 are all excellent
Even Mig 21 with all its bad reputation is a kick a$$ fighter

Mig 27 is junk ; period ; even after upgradation they are useless

We are just tolerating them

As a biker this incident is giving me chills.

As if riding in India was not dangerous enough.

Young BIkers in India drive very rashly ; they give chills to many pedestrians
on a daily basis

 

[doppelganger]

Young BIkers in India drive very rashly ; they give chills to many pedestrians on a daily basis

Nowadays you can be motoring along peacefully, minding your business, not doing anything stupid, and still some truck or SUV from the opposite lane will lose control, jump the median, and come barrelling into you in the opposite lane. What can you do? Nothing. This plane thing is like that.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Nowadays you can be motoring along peacefully, minding your business, not doing anything stupid, and still some truck or SUV from the opposite lane will lose control, jump the median, and come barrelling into you in the opposite lane. What can you do? Nothing. This plane thing is like that.

I am sorry if I have hurt you ; you seem to be a NICE biker

But I was talking of young bikers in general who give you a scare with sudden sharp turns
without using horns or indicators and swerve left and right just trying to squeeze some
space

They are a nuisance for people out on a walk

 

[chauvunist]

Wishing for the speedy recovery of the injured..

 

[Abingdonboy]

MiG-27s have been on their last legs for a very long time now and have had numerous issues whilst in service but most of them relate to the engine. The IAF saw little utility in re-engining the fleet and they'll join their MiG-23 step brothers as gate guardians and donations to technical colleges by 2019.

Single engine fighters are always risky and that too when they are of Soviet design but we saw yesterday (F-16 crash) these things happen.

 

[GORKHALI]

Mig 27 are Flying ? I thought most of them are grounded,thanks to venerable R27 engine.

 

[doppelganger]

@Abingdonboy

Did you get to catch the parade?

Motorcyclists got Michelle really excited and animated. Obama too stopped chewing gum.

 

[Skywalker]

Poor Indians they are already crowded on their roads with cows and monkeys and now a fighter aircraft..luckily no life loss.