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In 65 years, India excels Pakistan in many fields

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lol now the indians also enjoying the free press of Pakistan.....

only thing i can say....:)

We are not enjoying it.

We are just cautioning Indians from having a "FEEL GOOD FACTOR" (NDA wala :lol:) just by comparing India to Pakistan.
 
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How about comparing India with sub-Saharan Africa?

As India celebrates its 65th independence anniversary today, it is very unfortunate that economically resurgent India still remains home to the world's largest population of poor, hungry and illiterate people. Tragically, hunger remains India's biggest problem, with an estimated 7000 Indians dying of hunger every single day. Over 200 million Indians will go to bed hungry tonight, as they do every night, according to Bhookh.com. Along with chronic hunger, deep poverty and high illiteracy also continue to blight the lives of hundreds of millions of Indians on a daily basis.

A 2010 Oxford study on multi-dimensional poverty confirmed that Indians are far more deprived than Pakistanis and the poorest of the poor Africans. The study reveals that there are more "MPI poor" people in eight Indian states (421 million in Bihar, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Madhya Pradesh , Orissa, Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh, and West Bengal) than in the 26 poorest African countries combined (410 million).

India has the dubious distinction of being among the top ten on two very different lists: It ranks at the top of the nations of the world with its 270 million illiterate adults, the largest in the world, as detailed by a just released UNESCO report on education; India also shows up at number four in military spending in terms of purchasing power parity, behind United States, China and Russia.

Haq's Musings: 63 Years After Independence, India Remains Home to World's Largest Population of Poor, Hungry and Illiterates

And yet Pakistan trails a country worse than Sub Saharan Africa in Human development. As a matter of fact, Human development index in Pakistan has dropped from medium (which has been the case for last few decades) to Low last year and now stands in the group of countries like Uganda, Yemen and Haiti and is worse than the likes of Kenya, Swaziland and Congo...

which is exemplified by the fact that Pakistan spends less than half of what India does (in terms of % GDP ) on health and education services and how while in India, the % low weight births have decreased from 35% to 26% over last 3 decades, the same in Pakistan have increased from 18% to 32 % in the same time... The same is reflected in almost 50% more at birth deaths in Pakistan than India.
 
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Additionally, OP forgets to take account india's advantage via population, size, and economic resources it had after partition. With ALL the advantages india had after partition india is still a third world country with more than half the nation's population drowning in poverty. India has the population 8 TIMES the size of Pakistan and yet in relation to this they have accomplished nearly NOTHING. What Pakistan has accomplished considered the disadvantages it has had since partition is remarkable to say the least.
Having an educated,rich population is an asset.an uneducated,poor population is a major disadvantage

Both india and pakistan are third world countries.We have acheived nothing?What have you acheived?
600 million poor ?India has 33% poverty.Yor maths teacher is an epic fail dear

Search for it on Google son, I am not here to teach you how to use the net. We know the reality of india.
Reality is India did it better than you.
You Guys are more intrested in seeing 'poverty ****' to satisfy your minds filled with inferiority complex.That is why you bring pics of slums into every discussion about Indian cities forgetting its skyscrapers,metros,modern airports and expressways........

You guys bring 'poverty ****' into every thread on Indian development and acheivements ...I pity you guys

Yeah and some indian Muslim dude, just kicked the crap out of your national monument to soldiers, so don't give us your bs, remember some of us have seen india, so we don't believe the lies, about that wretched nation.


Look at your own country, before lecturing others.
We dont care about such Idiots...99% muslim population love India
 
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RiazHaq, we meet again. The topic is about a comparison and that is what you do in your blog. Have the courage to understand what is written by authors who are more accomplished than you are. :lol: Oouch ...
 
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Pakistan Economy Profile 2012

Pakistan Economy Profile 2012


Decades of internal political disputes and low levels of foreign investment have led to slow growth and underdevelopment in Pakistan. Agriculture accounts for more than one-fifth of output and two-fifths of employment.

Textiles account for most of Pakistan's export earnings, and Pakistan's failure to expand a viable export base for other manufactures has left the country vulnerable to shifts in world demand.

Official unemployment is 6%, but this fails to capture the true picture, because much of the economy is informal and underemployment remains high. Over the past few years, low growth and high inflation, led by a spurt in food prices, have increased the amount of poverty - the UN Human Development Report estimated poverty in 2011 at almost 50% of the population. Inflation has worsened the situation, climbing from 7.7% in 2007 to more than 13% for 2011, before declining to 9.3% at year-end.

As a result of political and economic instability, the Pakistani rupee has depreciated more than 40% since 2007. The government agreed to an International Monetary Fund Standby Arrangement in November 2008 in response to a balance of payments crisis. Although the economy has stabilized since the crisis, it has failed to recover.

Foreign investment has not returned, due to investor concerns related to governance, energy, security, and a slow-down in the global economy. Remittances from overseas workers, averaging about $1 billion a month since March 2011, remain a bright spot for Pakistan. However, after a small current account surplus in fiscal year 2011 (July 2010/June 2011), Pakistan's current account turned to deficit in the second half of 2011, spurred by higher prices for imported oil and lower prices for exported cotton. Pakistan remains stuck in a low-income, low-growth trap, with growth averaging 2.9% per year from 2008 to 2011.

Pakistan must address long standing issues related to government revenues and energy production in order to spur the amount of economic growth that will be necessary to employ its growing population. Other long term challenges include expanding investment in education and healthcare, and reducing dependence on foreign donors.
 
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I have met many indians, mainly Dalits and Khalistanis and Muslims all over the world and in india who absolutely hate india the country and what it stands for, they mainly blame the indian govt for the problems especially the hunger and poverty.

Arundhati Roy?She thinks that Liberation of goa was an attack on Indian Christians......:rofl:
I am an Indian Christian and portuguese were hated by Indian Christians..

Indian middle class is 25%

A 250 million-population base in the middle-income group is an envy of a consumer products division of any multinational company. No, I am not talking about the prosperous West. In fact, I am talking about India. Although the income levels in the West and India differ exponentially, yet middle class in the West and India has the same basic three objectives i.e. lead a decent life style, own as many as possible, items of the material world and pay taxes and keep governments afloat. Without taxes paid by them, there will be no government. India’s middle-income group (popularly called middle-class) is about 25% of the total population base. Of this segment about 4% are extremely rich and about 10% have just graduated into the middle class and are feeling their way through the material world. In addition about 1% of the poor in the country are graduating into this middle-income group every year for the last ten years. This trend not only will continue but also will get accelerated. The forgoing is a remarkable achievement.
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/%5Cpapers20%5Cpaper1961.html
 
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Yeah and some indian Muslim dude, just kicked the crap out of your national monument to soldiers, so don't give us your bs, remember some of us have seen india, so we don't believe the lies, about that wretched nation.

Look at your own country, before lecturing others.

Well, at least those vandals will not have to worry about ISI coming after them and their families, which would have happened if they did this in Pakistan.. BTW, the soldiers that monument was made to honor were muslims too.. :)
 
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Jutt Saab,

Calm down. expand your horizon a bit.

Let's forget our "sibling rivalry" for a moment and look outside the region for a bit. Let me bring in "The Tale of Two Koreas", almost on the same level as the original Tale of two cities by the greatest ever Charles Dickens.

One Korea in the North fights tooth and nail against the West. Intellectually, and militarily. And as a result it is a cesspool of poverty, and dictatorship not too different from the Al-Assad goons in Syria. And yet it begs for oil and rice in return for not exploding nukies on the South. Something like MQM mafia's bhata khori but on global scale.

The other Korea in the South is vibrant, forward looking, dominating in key industries like shipping, refineries, cars, electronics, trucks and you name it. Within south there is an anti-Western strain, but it doesn't amount much. South Korea houses HUGE American military base.

Housing a military base is just a starting point. It is upto the country hosting the base to take as much technical benefit from it like South Korea, or Qatar, or Germany, or Germany, or Italy, or UK, and the list goes on.

Or you can run brothels like in Philipines. It is all upto you.

But having strong pro-West Global trade policies and pro-West tourism is a must must must. American base just add $billions and billions into the economy. This is true for American bases inside USA or outside.


peace.

I understand your point fully. But you missed my point..if you read my earlier posts again...my main focus was not on the point of american support but being self dependent..wether you have americans with you or not.

i had given a simple example where India was supported by USA and still it was working towards becoming self dependent by methods like Green revolution. etc. and honestly speaking we were not doing as great as now in that period, but still we still developing by each passing year...and ofcours then came the time when we have good relation with Americans ( we still do not have any american base or any support from them..we are still trade partners and never an ally like Pakistan or South Korea)...and then I compared it with Pakistan which also had both the experience with US.
 
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They have 5x more people.. why do you even bother comparing? Troll thread.

and we are 5x bigger in land size too so we will need to work more....so development/unit area should be almost the same but we are still ahead...so cut your crap!!:meeting:
 
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Independence Day: PM Manmohan Singh forecasts GDP growth over 6.5 per cent for this fiscal
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh today projected India's economic growth in the current fiscal to be a little higher than 6.5 per cent achieved a year ago amid many global agencies projecting a bearish outlook.

"Last year our GDP grew by 6.5 per cent. This year we hope to do a little better," Singh said in his Independence Day speech.

The 6.5 per cent GDP growth in 2011-12 was the lowest in nine years. The government's original GDP projection for 2012-13 was 7.6 per cent.

Singh's optimism on growth front comes at a time when a host of major private forecasters including Citi, CLSA, Crisil and Moody's trimmed their forecast to as low as 5.5 per cent citing inaction on the policy front as one of the reasons for slowdown in economic activities.

Singh said the global economy is passing through a difficult phase and has adversely affected India as well.

Besides on the domestic front, he said lack of political consensus on many issues was impeding rapid economic growth.

"Seen together, the European countries are estimated to grow zero per cent this year. Our country has also been affected by these external conditions," he said.

While not much can be done about the conditions prevailing outside, Singh said every effort must be made to resolve the problems inside the country to again speed up economic growth and job creation.

India's GDP grew by over 9 per cent for three years before the 2008 global economic crisis.

The Prime Minister said his government is taking steps to accelerate infrastructure development and infuse confidence in foreign investors.

The 12th Five Year Plan would lay down measures for increasing the present rate of economic growth from 6.5 per cent to 9 per cent in the last year (2016-17) of the Plan, he added.
 
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Just because your country fares well compared to your arch rival does not mean you should get all celebratory considering the fact that India alone has the highest concentration of poor and starving people in 6 indian states there are more poor and hungry than all of of the poor nations of Sub Saharan Africa combined.

My remarks are not to insult anyone but i'm just saying when a village of 500 needs to share one disgusting substandard toilet and out of 500 only a third get to eat every day its pretty bad. While India has made progress it still lags in terms of social development, education, healthcare and definitely sanitation and it has a very inefficient government system stemming from corruption,over bureaucratization and a very dismal system of checks and balances modeled on the successful British system but definitely not as well implemented.
 
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