Imran’s entry in Sindh banned... again

[Moin91]

Wednesday, September 12, 2007
By Salis bin Perwaiz

Karachi

The Sindh home department has banned the entry of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan for 30 days, apparently in continuation of its previous order with regard to banning rallies and processions on 12 major roads of the city under Section 144 Cr.P.C.

It is for the second time that the entry of Imran Khan has been banned. Earlier in May, the Sindh Home Department had banned the entry of PTI chief for one month in the province.

When contacted, Advisor to Chief Minster on Home Affairs Waseem Akhtar said that the order was issued following intelligence reports that PTI chief Imran Khan will be visiting Karachi on September 12 and lead a rally of his party workers which may be joined by other party workers from Quaid-e-Azam Airport to Regal Chowk via Sharae Faisal, Shahra-e-Quaideen, M.A. Jinnah Road and will address the rally at Regal Chowk.

Akhtar said that the Sindh government had already imposed such ban u/s 144 vide order dated 10th September, in order to ensure the smooth flow of traffic on the main city roads and to avoid traffic jams, adding, “It is necessary to prohibit unlawful assemblies, taking out rallies and processions on the main roads of Karachi”.

Akhtar maintained that taking out rallies on 12 major roads of Karachi, including Sharea Faisal, Shahrah-e-Quaideen, M.A Jinnah Road, “the Sindh government is satisfied that with a view to prevent Imran Khan from acting in a manner prejudicial to public safety and maintenance of public order in Sindh and to avoid the violation of home department’s order, which could create serious law and order problems and may disturb the peace of Karachi, it is necessary to prevent him from entering and residing in the province of Sindh”.

In this regard, secretary home department, Sindh, in exercise of the powers vested in him under sections 5(1) (a) and (c) of Sindh Maintenance of Public Order Ordinance-1960 has imposed ban on the entry of Imran Khan in Sindh for 30 days with immediate effect.

The notification said: “There are reasons to believe that Imran Khan will lead a procession and rally of his party and other political workers in violation of restriction imposed by government u/s 144 Cr. P.C which will disturb peace and tranquility of Karachi and he will deliver provocative speeches which would be prejudicial to public safety and maintenance of good order in Sindh.”

“He is at liberty to make an appeal to the Sindh government against this order,” it added.

 

[Moin91]

PTI chief vows to defy entry ban

Wednesday, September 12, 2007
By M Waqar Bhatti

Karachi

Chairman Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Imran Khan has vowed to defy the 30-day ban on his entry into Sindh, declaring that he would be visiting Karachi as per schedule on Wednesday and asked all his party workers to gather at Karachi airport for his welcome.

Meanwhile, PTI Sindh has also rejected the one month ban on the entry of Imran Khan in the province, warning the provincial administration of strong protests if their party chairman was not allowed to enter Karachi or was forcibly sent back.

Imran Khan is expected to arrive from Islamabad on board PK-301 at 11:55am at Karachi airport from where his party workers are planning to take him to the Quaid’s mausoleum in the form of a procession.

PTI Sindh chief Zubair Khan told The News that Imran was scheduled to arrive in Karachi on September 12 and address party workers at Regal Chowk, but they learnt from the media that the Sindh government has again imposed ban on his entry in the province for 30 days.

“This shows that the Sindh government, especially Muttahida Qaumi Movement, is afraid of Imran’s arrival in Karachi. Whenever he tries to come to Karachi, the government imposes a ban, which shows how scared they are,” he observed.

Zubair Khan said he had spoken to Imran Khan after learning of the ban, adding that Imran assured him that he would definitely board the Karachi-bound flight. “Imran has asked party workers to gather at Karachi airport for his welcome and take him to the venue of his address in the form of a rally,” he added.

He said PTI workers would not tolerate ban on their chairman’s entry into Sindh and if they were stopped from going towards Karachi airport, the responsibility of consequences would solely lie with the authorities.

He said that the MQM has been given a freehand in Sindh to terrorise common people, political opponents and even judges and the legal fraternity, warning that this situation could drift the country towards anarchy and civil war.

Zubair Khan said that, “the PTI is a peaceful party which believes in peaceful democratic struggle and it had intimidated in advance to all concerned in Sindh about the schedule of Imran Khan’s visit to Karachi but the provincial government resorted to such a shameful act”.

However, he added, “We will go to the airport on Wednesday (today) and let’s see what happens. If any law and order situation is created, then the responsibility would solely lie on government shoulders”.

Earlier addressing a hurriedly-called press conference at Karachi Press Club, he said Imran Khan would be visiting Karachi in Ramazan to collect donations for the Shaukat Khanum Memorial Hospital and if he was disallowed to enter the city, it would cast serious consequences.

After arriving at Karachi airport, Imran Khan would be taken to Quaid’s mausoleum in the form of a procession and later to Regal Chowk in the form of a rally where the PTI chief would address party workers, he added.

PTI chief vows to defy entry ban

 

[EagleEyes]

He has taken a good "panga" with Altaf Hussain by threatening to open a case against him in Britain, now dont expect good services from the government of Sindh.

 

[voiceofaa]

Someone was saying his ban is against constitution,

How is violation of constitution? Imran Khan was coming here to further screw up Karachi’s traffic situation. CJ has taken suo-moto action on Karachi's traffic s and asked local govt. to fix this problem.


If Imran comes to Karachi he would take part in rally and shall create traffic problems.

According to section 144 he is not allowed to conduct any rally or procession but he decided to violate it. What else could govt. do?

Warning had already issue to him in Islamabad – he was allowed to come Karachi but conditionally that he would not violate section 144 which is implemented to oblige court orders.

Unfortunately our courts are already looking for excuses to charge against govt. Had Imran conducted rally in Karachi courts would have taken action against Govt .

So as a preemptive measure his expulsion from Karachi is completely justified and in a vast interest of majority.

He can do his rally or whatever in Mianwali. No body would stop him.

 

[F.O.X]

Some steps are necessary for maintaing peace in the country & preventing civil riots this is one those steps take, I dont Support or Like Altaf, but for peace & progress in the country if you have to negotiate with terrorists you should.

Regards
Wilco

 

[bhangra12345]

Someone was saying his ban is against constitution,

How is violation of constitution? Imran Khan was coming here to further screw up Karachi’s traffic situation. CJ has taken suo-moto action on Karachi's traffic s and asked local govt. to fix this problem.


If Imran comes to Karachi he would take part in rally and shall create traffic problems.

According to section 144 he is not allowed to conduct any rally or procession but he decided to violate it. What else could govt. do?

Warning had already issue to him in Islamabad – he was allowed to come Karachi but conditionally that he would not violate section 144 which is implemented to oblige court orders.

Unfortunately our courts are already looking for excuses to charge against govt. Had Imran conducted rally in Karachi courts would have taken action against Govt .

So as a preemptive measure his expulsion from Karachi is completely justified and in a vast interest of majority.

He can do his rally or whatever in Mianwali. No body would stop him.

Does musharraf come to karachi? Did he ever make a rally? Imran Khan has as much right to make a rally as musharraf.
Are you saying to me that ALL rallies in Karachi are banned? If yes, then ok, else you are violating his rights,- which means you are violating the constitution.

The traffic problem is only for public consumption. If the politicians in India and Pakistan were so good, than we would not have been in this present state.

Section 144 is applicable only on times and places where it is pre-announced. (atleast this is how indian 144 works, both our constitutions are from 1935 constitution, so just guessing).

Is the section applicable in karachi 24/7 365 days a week? Do you find a group of more than 5 people at one place in karachi? if yes,144 is not applicable at that moment.

Why is he not allowed to move freely and address the number of people he wants to address?

Why was warning given to him?

If he does not have enough public support in the neighbouring areas, his rally is bound to fail. Why is the govt not allowing him to show his public support?

There should be order in rallies and such stuff, but it applies to ALL. all, i.e. consistency is the key here. Picking out only imran khan is just plain politics.

 

[voiceofaa]

Does musharraf come to karachi? Did he ever make a rally? Imran Khan has as much right to make a rally as musharraf.
Are you saying to me that ALL rallies in Karachi are banned? If yes, then ok, else you are violating his rights,- which means you are violating the constitution.

The traffic problem is only for public consumption. If the politicians in India and Pakistan were so good, than we would not have been in this present state.

Section 144 is applicable only on times and places where it is pre-announced. (atleast this is how indian 144 works, both our constitutions are from 1935 constitution, so just guessing).

Is the section applicable in karachi 24/7 365 days a week? Do you find a group of more than 5 people at one place in karachi? if yes,144 is not applicable at that moment.

Why is he not allowed to move freely and address the number of people he wants to address?

Why was warning given to him?

If he does not have enough public support in the neighbouring areas, his rally is bound to fail. Why is the govt not allowing him to show his public support?

There should be order in rallies and such stuff, but it applies to ALL. all, i.e. consistency is the key here. Picking out only imran khan is just plain politics.

Does musharraf come to karachi? Did he ever make a rally?

Same question for you ....

Are you saying to me that ALL rallies in Karachi are banned? If yes, then ok, else you are violating his rights,- which means you are violating the constitution.

As long as Section 144 is there, everyone should follow.

The traffic problem is only for public consumption.

Ahan! Supreme Court was having a party on issue and you are calling it public consumption

Section 144 is applicable only on times and places where it is pre-announced

Agreed, and it is announced prior his arrival

Why was warning given to him?

he has right to voilate/deny the Government orders ?

Picking out only imran khan is just plain politics

Is that so

 

[bhangra12345]

Does musharraf come to karachi? Did he ever make a rally?

Same question for you ....

why musharraf, was there in the last few months even a single rally from any side either official/ non-official, then he has a right. I am not from Karachi/Pakistan and so I posed a question.

As long as Section 144 is there, everyone should follow.

Yup, what you say is true. What I am saying is different.
If the section 144 is applicable on say 24th and 25th month on this month, he can come on that day but not make a rally on 24th and 25th.
but on the other hand, 144 is now being applied WHENEVER imran comes, which completely changes the equation, doesnt it?

The traffic problem is only for public consumption.

Ahan! Supreme Court was having a party on issue and you are calling it public consumption

both completely different issues. that case was meant to generally deal with traffic problems and not traffic problems when imran addresses a rally.

Section 144 is applicable only on times and places where it is pre-announced

Agreed, and it is announced prior his arrival

he has right to voilate/deny the Government orders ?

He cant violate govt orders, but the govt cant issue orders arbitrarily....
I am talking about consistency. see just above for explanation.

Picking out only imran khan is just plain politics

Is that so

Picking out one man or making arbitrary decisions is a violation of constitution with regard to handling executive powers.

 

[voiceofaa]

why musharraf, was there in the last few months even a single rally from any side either official/ non-official, then he has a right. I am not from Karachi/Pakistan and so I posed a question.

Yup, what you say is true. What I am saying is different.
If the section 144 is applicable on say 24th and 25th month on this month, he can come on that day but not make a rally on 24th and 25th.
but on the other hand, 144 is now being applied WHENEVER imran comes, which completely changes the equation, doesnt it?


both completely different issues. that case was meant to generally deal with traffic problems and not traffic problems when imran addresses a rally.

He cant violate govt orders, but the govt cant issue orders arbitrarily....
I am talking about consistency. see just above for explanation.

Picking out one man or making arbitrary decisions is a violation of constitution with regard to handling executive powers.

why musharraf, was there in the last few months even a single rally from any side either official/ non-official, then he has a right. I am not from Karachi/Pakistan and so I posed a question.

Your question is confusing, keep it simple so that i can reply.

144 is now being applied WHENEVER imran comes, which completely changes the equation, doesnt it?

Whenever Sindh think that there may be a problem conducting a public rally, they'll impose 144, and this rule is not just for Imran, for everyone, History reveals that any whenever MQM conducted a rally, there's not a single complain on rally site.

He cant violate govt orders, but the govt cant issue orders.

he did, Supreme court was clear in their approach that there'll be zero tolerance on his issue, and he said in news papers i will come and conduct rally, clear voilation of SC orders.

Picking out one man or making arbitrary decisions is a violation of constitution with regard to handling executive powers

picking up picking up, from where did yo got this word

 

[voiceofaa]

and remember one more thing, Imran was banned by Punjab Governemnt as well last time, now don't tell me MQM was invloved in it too

 

[bhangra12345]

and remember one more thing, Imran was banned by Punjab Governemnt as well last time, now don't tell me MQM was invloved in it too

Banned by Punjab, now by sindh, i think the only place he can go to is to mars

 

[voiceofaa]

Banned by Punjab, now by sindh, i think the only place he can go to is to mars

No, he won't even deserve Mars Human can only tolerate him by imposing ban, Mars people will **********

 

[Awesome]

I haven't seen Musharraf rallying anywhere!

At max he's had well organized speeches in some parks! The last time Imran and his goonies came they caused a large scale shooting in Karachi.

 

[bhangra12345]

I haven't seen Musharraf rallying anywhere!

At max he's had well organized speeches in some parks! The last time Imran and his goonies came they caused a large scale shooting in Karachi.

musharraf was just an example, article 144 ensures that even those speeches cant take place!!!

If Imran was responsible for that, charge him with criminal conspiracy and throw him into jail.
(btw are you talking about violence during the cjp's arrival in karachi?)

The Sindh home department has banned the entry of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan for 30 days, apparently in continuation of its previous order with regard to banning rallies and processions on 12 major roads of the city under Section 144 Cr.P.C.


In this regard, secretary home department, Sindh, in exercise of the powers vested in him under sections 5(1) (a) and (c) of Sindh Maintenance of Public Order Ordinance-1960 has imposed ban on the entry of Imran Khan in Sindh for 30 days with immediate effect.

PTI Sindh chief Zubair Khan told The News that Imran was scheduled to arrive in Karachi on September 12 and address party workers at Regal Chowk, but they learnt from the media that the Sindh government has again imposed ban on his entry in the province for 30 days.

The key word is again. When was the previous 144 section applied? If it was already in vogue, what was the neccissity to continue with the order further? Note 144 means that law and order is in a precarious state and so we have to take corrective measures.

I dont expect anybody to do further research on this topic, but intriguing capture of heavy handed tactics of ruling govts.

 

[voiceofaa]

musharraf was just an example, article 144 ensures that even those speeches cant take place!!!

If Imran was responsible for that, charge him with criminal conspiracy and throw him into jail.
(btw are you talking about violence during the cjp's arrival in karachi?)








The key word is again. When was the previous 144 section applied? If it was already in vogue, what was the neccissity to continue with the order further? Note 144 means that law and order is in a precarious state and so we have to take corrective measures.

I dont expect anybody to do further research on this topic, but intriguing capture of heavy handed tactics of ruling govts.

Bro. again and again you are compairing Musharraf with Imran Khan, and for no obvious reasons, let me clear your misconception about the 144 section, Home departement can impose this section whenever they think it's necessary.

Now about your concern towards Imran and Musharraf....

Imran plans to hold a public rally on Kareachi's most busiest roads and areas, like Regal, you don't know about regal chowk in Karachi, the most congusted area of karachi is Saddar and regal is within juridiction of Saddar.

If Musharraf plans to hold public meeting in Karachi, he would prefer to have that on Mazar-e-Quaid, or the huge ground infront of Mazar-e-Quaid, like he did few years back during referrendum , all karachi was operational that time.

Home Department is not a bunch of Emotional fools who can take decisions on human humans or any affiliation, so many factors based on it.

I know you'll start this debate once again, as you'll not accept this fact.