Imran now stopped at UK immigration

[Cent4]

ask more thn a billion members (as was projected, by PTI as thier members) to donate 2 rupees per member, then surly sum will come up , 2 billion rupees from its own members, thn no need to beg abroad(fund raisings)?

We are all beggars in one way or other, everyone in this whole world has begged to some one in one way or other but very few have begged for other.

To ''beg'' from people just so that other people could benefit in any way is noble act and should be appreciated, anyone who does not appreciate that is a bigot.

What is that billion member thing you wrote about, are you counting the people who have died since independence and the future generations .

 

[batmannow]

Who gives a Flying FK!

tht shows how fake claims were projected often by PTI supporters?
wait till who gives who & what after the elections?

 

[batmannow]

We are all beggars in one way or other, everyone in this whole world has begged to some one in one way or other but very few have begged for other.

To ''beg'' from people just so that other people could benefit in any way is noble act and should be appreciated, anyone who does not appreciate that is a bigot.

What is that billion member thing you wrote about, are you counting the people who have died since independence and the future generations .

just check the fake huge claims by PTI web sites, all of them claiming they hve nearly 40 million members now on line?
thn its simple to tell them , PTI needs funds plz donate 2 or 4 rupees each you will see a good sum, which can save IMRAN being stopped at every westrn airport, in the world?
it would be more respectable for him?

 

[A.Rafay]

just check the fake huge claims by PTI web sites, all of them claiming they hve nearly 40 million members now on line?
thn its simple to tell them , PTI needs funds plz donate 2 or 4 rupees each you will see a good sum, which can save IMRAN being stopped at every westrn airport, in the world?
it would be more respectable for him?

Members are for voting not for funds collecting!

 

[batmannow]

Members are for voting not for funds collecting!

wow, & abroad pakistanis just for funds not for vote?
i think if , asked PTI supporters will happly can give the money to save imran & pakistan,s respect, specialy on the westrn airports?

 

[koolio]

wow, & abroad pakistanis just for funds not for vote?
i think if , asked PTI supporters will happly can give the money to save imran & pakistan,s respect, specialy on the westrn airports?

The problem is we the Pakistani's don't have respect in the western world because these type of incidents will keep on happening regardless of what position you hold. Corruption in Pakistan and a lack of education has effectively destroyed Pakistan's standing in the world. Everyone knows that Pakistan is a servant to the western masters, We need to be self sufficient and build Pakistan to a country similar to Malaysia which enjoys its standing in world community.

 

[TechMan]

Oh they still can, if there were a need to do so.

Only in your dreams.

 

[VCheng]

Only in your dreams.

Not a dream, but a fact, that IF there were a need to do so, denial of entry is still the host country's right.

 

[Developereo]

There is no "insulting manner" when passing through Immigration and Customs as a an individual citizen. It is time people realize the application of the same law for everyone. This VIP attitude as if one individual somehow deserves deferential treatment may work in Pakistan, but not in most western countries.

What a load of unadulterated BULL!

The West has its royalty just like South Asia, and they get away with preferential treatment all the time. Are you going to tell me that the Kennedy's are treated the same as Joe Sixpack in New England?

 

[Azadkashmir]

as long as he can think of a way of proving the fund are being used as it should be, people will donate but with current event of corruption in Pakistan, dont be surprised if funds are not enough to leap imran khan forward. it time imran start selling cricket bats with his signature and cricket ball signature or sell some imran cards or something for fund raising.

 

[Developereo]

Imran Khan was in the U.K. to raise funds, the same in the U.S. earlier. A man coming with a begging bowl but saying that he is totally opposed to war against terrorism & will take a stand against it is amusing. He doesn't seem to be able to run an election campaign without foreign money, how on earth does he plans to run Pakistan without the billions it receives as aid ??

Unfair criticism. By your logic, every politician -- or anyone-- collecting donations is walking around 'with a begging bowl'. Fundraising is an integral part of the democratic political process. Just because some people don't like his policies does not make him any less legitimate.

As for the oft-repeated charge that he is anti-West, it is also laughable. Being pro-Pakistan and defending the rights of Pakistani citizens to get due process is not being anti-West. If certain elements in the West perceive it to be anti-them, then they need to do some soul searching.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Never mind donations and stealing. The easiest way is to get ISI's blessing. All is well after that.

Another hawai fire without Proof.

And No detention was not related to $10K or Any Amount-Funds. It is dumb to even remotely consider I regularly donate to IK Cancer Hospital and Yes I did give for the fund raising, I always get complete after payment information and replies including those US-Canadian Bank Accounts. Everything is legal.

batmannow; I don't have time to read your crappy patties but mostly you have arse burn treat it asap:

- 11 Frozen Accounts of musharraf-sehba musharraf VS IK no account frozen all money is legal and legally obtained. Internationally fund raising is never illegal unless notice is issued or the person is from banned organization.

- 2005 Earth Quake $5B donated to Pakistan with no records "on the record huge corruption" by musharraf.

You or anyone has no proof of funds being used for personal gains or living and no it is not called begging dig english.

You need to know funds for politics is not illegal nor begging US elections had huge fund raising by mitt and obama.

Lastly tell bhagorah asylum seeker mushy to come back.

 

[Bang Galore]

Unfair criticism. By your logic, every politician -- or anyone-- collecting donations is walking around 'with a begging bowl'. Fundraising is an integral part of the democratic political process. Just because some people don't like his policies does not make him any less legitimate.

As for the oft-repeated charge that he is anti-West, it is also laughable. Being pro-Pakistan and defending the rights of Pakistani citizens to get due process is not being anti-West. If certain elements in the West perceive it to be anti-them, then they need to do some soul searching.

I was not planning to comment further but maybe i will make my point clearer.
Imran Khan is going to countries whose policies he opposes & believes are damaging to Pakistan for only one reason - money! Whether he only collects from Pakistanis holding dual citizenship is irrelevant. They are still citizens of the countries he is now opposing. This is a man who has been promising that he will stop the war against terror thereby implying that Pakistan can & will somehow manage without the aid it receives. He doesn't even seem to manage an election campaign without foreign funds, does that not strike you as questionable? Further elaboration is both unnecessary & pointless, either you see it or you don't.

There is no comparison with this "begging bowl" with what politicians do in other countries. In most countries, it would probably be illegal and even if it were not, you would see very few cases of running after a few thousand/millions when you are promising to risk billions with your policies. austerity must start at home, don't you think?

 

[Developereo]

I was not planning to comment further but maybe i will make my point clearer.
Imran Khan is going to countries whose policies he opposes & believes are damaging to Pakistan for only one reason - money! Whether he only collects from Pakistanis holding dual citizenship is irrelevant. They are still citizens of the countries he is now opposing. This is a man who has been promising that he will stop the war against terror thereby implying that Pakistan can & will somehow manage without the aid it receives. He doesn't even seem to manage an election campaign without foreign funds, does that not strike you as questionable? Further elaboration is both unnecessary & pointless, either you see it or you don't.

There is no comparison with this "begging bowl" with what politicians do in other countries. In most countries, it would probably be illegal and even if it were not, you would see very few cases of running after a few thousand/millions when you are promising to risk billions with your policies. austerity must start at home, don't you think?

Your point still fails.

Just because he opposes certain foreign policy tactics of said governments does not make him an enemy of those countries. Moreover, private citizens of those countries are free to support his cause, as long as it is deemed legal by their authorities. And I don't see what is wrong with soliciting donations from Pakistanis wherever they happen to be. He has fundraisers within Pakistan as well, so what?

Your logic is that Pakistan should accept the wanton slaughter of its citizens without due process and take the foreign aid as blood money -- or else!

Imran Khan is not opposed to fighting terrorism; he is opposed to the specific tactics employed by Western countries which don't give a damn about Pakistani collateral damage. In the process, he also wants to wean Pakistan away from reliance on the foreign aid (a subject discussed to death here and where it ends up anyway).

P.S. I don't know about India, but neither Australia nor the US places any restrictions on political donations by dual nationals.

 

[Bang Galore]

Your point still fails.

Just because he opposes certain foreign policy tactics of said governments does not make him an enemy of those countries. Moreover, private citizens of those countries are free to support his cause, as long as it is deemed legal by their authorities. And I don't see what is wrong with soliciting donations from Pakistanis wherever they happen to be. He has fundraisers within Pakistan as well, so what?

Not a legal point, only an ethical one. If you promise to ask your citizens to tighten their belts & do whatever is necessary in the face of an aid cut off, the least you can do is to not go to those very same countries (regardless of who is funding) with a begging bowl. He can't seem to run an campaign without "foreign" money, how does he plan to run the country? If overseas Pakistanis want to give, they can but there is no reason for Imran Khan (& by extension, Pakistan) to allow himself to be so humiliated.

Your logic is that Pakistan should accept the wanton slaughter of its citizens without due process and take the foreign aid as blood money -- or else!

Not my point. I have simply offered no opinion on this matter, only pointed out what looks to me to be incongruent with stated positions.

P.S. I don't know about India, but neither Australia nor the US places any restrictions on political donations by dual nationals.

As i said before, it was a moral point, not a legal one.
Btw, India does not allow dual nationality.