Imran Khan’s Govt and Violent Tax Policies | Raise your concerns

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Since PTA tax has been one of the complain of OP.

This is the other side of the story. How much it has transformed. Last month December 2021 Pakistan assembled 2.54m cellphones.

Pakistanis bought 3.5crore phones last year Jan-Dec.

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Nawaj made zero phones because he wanted Pakistani people to have latest spanking I phones …. He is our great visionary leader …

I usually ignore these types of posts but I can't help myself.

1. Khan has built the fundamentals of sustainable economic growth. He's cut off the artificial inflation of the currency, reduced subsidies, paid back a lot of debt (albeit some through refinancing) and reduced the current account defecit. This has led to an increase in exports, higher GDP, increased consumer spending, increased business borrowing - all whilst the country went through COVID-19, a 2 year period where most of the worlds economies shrunk.

2. Khan also managed COVID-19 excellently, Pakistan did not go bankrupt during this period, people did not die of hunger on the streets, our healthcare system did not collapse, there were no piles of corpses on the streets. This was thanks to Khan and his team.

3. Khan has actually built MORE infrastructure in his time than the previous govt did during the same period of time.

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He has also started work on huge canals to irrigate south punjab and Sindh. https://www.adb.org/news/200-million-adb-loan-develop-irrigation-system-pakistan

On top of that he has invested in people. Everyone in Pakistan other than population of Sindh province will have access to health insurance by end of PTI tenure. People are being treated by this now. He has enacted a new single national curriculum which is being rolled out now. The effects of that can only be measured 10 years from now.

There is far too much to list, but people choose to ignore the good and focus on inflation. Inflation is a massive problem, but it is not the be all and end all of economics. I accept it's easy for me to say as someone who isn't suffering because of inflation. I am affected by it, im not working a weekend job because of it, but i'm not suffering.

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You said Khan took us back to IMF. He did so because the previous govt left the country bankrupt and nobody else was willing to lend to fill the loan. You complain about taxes and inflation now, you'd be seeing stars if Pakistani's had to pay their own bills with their own money rather than through borrowing.

You say he lost Kashmir? Which part has been lost? Where has LOC changed? When has govt accepted any unilateral Indian decision? Indians could quite easily say Pakistan has done the same to GB which it considers part of the disputed territory.

Loans have gone up. Yes they have in rupee amount, because the value of the dollar has gone down. On top of that debts have matured which needed paying, we had no money to pay them with so we took loans to do so. Also borrowing has been done to invest in infrastructure. What has changed is that borrowing to run the daily tasks of the country, has reduced. These are the most dangerous loans, the ones we take for daily spending.

Also final question you asked, why are our reserves low - we're importing a lot of stuff, we're paying a lot of loans, people want that in USD, not PKR. This is why exports are so important, to bring in enough USD that we have enouch foreign currency to pay loans and buy all the fancy sh1t from abroad that we want.

Great post and summarizes everything very well.

Wait till he posts that Kaddu is still expensive in Pakistan …. Patwari mind is a curse that is sinking Pakistan . Low iodine and inbreeding depression is a deadly combination.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Taxation is part of life

Freeloaders need to respect the constitution and Pay Taxes and stop crying about being poor
If you are poor don't have 10 children

Every one has sufficient money to Pay Taxes if their income is higher and falls in Tax Bracket

Foreign Car Imports are being restricted so Companies will setup local manufacturing inside Pakistan

Locally Manufactured vehicles will have 65% cost vs Imported Options

 

[AZ1]

Damn, you made life pretty easy for politicians. So everything they say in their campaigns is not to be believed and they should not be questioned about it?. So they come to power without a mandate? But he did make a promise in several jalsas - I can't be bothered watching hours long old jalsas to point them out for you.

Also IK said some pretty serious stuff in that jalsa, you should watch it.

As for the last sentence of yours, I don't agree. Even if Pakistanis paid 100% in direct taxation , it would still be poor broken because as long as you have corrupt leaders, the money never gets spent on the country and IK is a megaharami. You also agreed that he is a liar and his word is not to be trusted.

I never vote him because he said he will not go to imf etc. I know corruption is not 100% cure where every single person in pakistan are corrupt.

He's not liar if country gone bankrupt and then he has to save you. I dont know your problem and cry. Accusing like you are judge of pakistan you have proof go to court and hang imran khan but just saying wouldnt make him.


Your exports are up, gdp goes to 5%, remittance increase


And you are still crying.


And why taxation will broke poor If they cant pay 1000 pay 10 rupees just.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Pretty sad that hard words are being directed at Honorable Prime Minister Imran Khan
By some members , only because necessary taxation is introduced


1- Pakistan's Deficit , lies in heavy Import from outside.
Imposing Taxation on Imports discourages people from buying from outside

Certified Criminal by Supreme Court of Pakistan and Fugitive Nawaz Sharif left Government with Minus 20 Billion Dollar standing


2-Secondly Taxation on Foreign Manufactured auto is common practice world wide where heavy taxation is applied on vehicles from outside. This forces Auto Manufacturers to also open manufacturing units locally , creating Jobs

3- Taxation is Legal mechanism for enabling Local Governments to do their business

• Keeping Government Offices open for Passport/ Driver License / Health Card
• Paying Police / Ensuring Security on streets
• Hire and Train of new Government Service Employees in different provinces
• Taxation enables also for Public projects Parks , Schools and Hospitals

15-25% is quite common world wide


If someone has low income , they should not have a extensive family with 5-10 children or marrying 10 wives
Just remain single it will help with your expenses or get a Second Job like rest of the world



Prime Minister Imran Khan's main Objective was to Fight Against the Rich class which stays above the law
Prime Minister Imran Khan's main Objective was to bring forth Taxation Reform
Prime Minister Imran Khan's main Objective was and is to Make Pakistan a Social & Caring state
Prime Minister Imran Khan's main Objective was and is to Fix Broken Institutes in Pakistan and make operation efficient

 

[Enigma SIG]

Much ado about nothing. Pay your taxes or move to some western country.

Newsflash: you have to pay taxes there too LOL.

 

[fisher1]

I dont know your problem and cry.

My problem is he made many promises to me on basis of which I voted for him. Now he's doing exactly what previous govts did and even worse and the biggest problem I have is there are corruption cases coming up about him. So not only did he break his promises but he turned out to be bigger harami than previous leaders. He's the true Godfather of Pakistani mafia.

But actually, I am seeing more and more PTI supporters start crying who in the past were bashing me for criticizing IK so that gives me satisfaction hahaaa. Can't wait until one day you start cursing him too (that is if you live in Pakistan like the rest of us and not dependent on mummy papa for money)

 

[AZ1]

My problem is he made many promises to me on basis of which I voted for him. Now he's doing exactly what previous govts did and even worse and the biggest problem I have is there are corruption cases coming up about him. So not only did he break his promises but he turned out to be bigger harami than previous leaders. He's the true Godfather of Pakistani mafia.

But actually, I am seeing more and more PTI supporters start crying who in the past were bashing me for criticizing IK so that gives me satisfaction hahaaa. Can't wait until one day you start cursing him too (that is if you live in Pakistan like the rest of us and not dependent on mummy papa for money)

I live in pakistan and knows what is right and wrong even if its cost me. See taking loan and not increasing export and thinking world.will not ask money back is not just dillusion. I dont count his all promise and expect him to deliver in 1 go. By the way those mummy papa is running your country by sending remittance otherwise pakistan would be in deep trouble.

Those you see bashing imran khan wil vote imran khan again you will see in election when time comes.

Which mafia are you talking about?

 

[maithil]

Government can start by diverting subsidies from Rich to poor. Probably a nominal wealth tax of 5-6% on ultra Rich should also be levied. Inheritance tax for feudal class should be looked into. Raising tax on everyday items punishes only lower strata of society.

 

[SaadH]

Didn’t read anything after 3rd line “Happy with the donkeys ruling since 40 years”, because I don’t give a f about any of them.

This country has been heading without a leader ever since the death of Ali Jinnah.

No, on economic and corruption front it went down hill fast after Ayub and in hyper drive in the 70's and 90's and 2010's.

 

[StormBreaker]

Your biases and unsound judgements are very obvious from your posts.

Imran may not be a Charsi , because there are no proofs of it.
But Shahbaz was definitely caught red handed with enhancing drugs and **** material.
Maryam definitely gave birth with in 5 months of her marriage.
Not to mention the proofs of perverting the course of justice by the lot. But these are minor issue for you. If someone drinks or uses recreational drugs, it is his/her personal issue, but looting from the poor is not. Perverting the course of justice is a very serious crime, so is opening bank accounts on fake names. They had been doing for decades, nothing new, they did with Qazi family, got away with it, so Shahbaz and sons did it again. I am sure this is small matter for you.

Government servants had been stealing for decades, most of them were appointed by corrupt thugs who have looted Pakistan themselves, the proverb old habits die hard.
Nasla is a provincial matter, PPP involved in it. Talk about them.
But then nobody asks BB how the journalist died who exposed fake visit by BB. He pre warned that he would be killed.

I say take your prejudicial glasses off, you may be able to see clearly.

Why are you bringing in these chor shabaz and maryam ? I don’t consider them politicians, They are gangsters and decoits, Not worthy of my attention.

IK was supposed to be a politician but he is a “tunn”

 

[StormBreaker]

I know bro you sound frustrated and angry . I am from Karachi and I see how everyone takes turn raping Karachi for taxes and resources but I hope Unlike other Patwaris arguing on this thread you will educate yourself with just some basic facts:

Find out Taxes on petroleum in Pakistan/India and USA or Canada ….

On the cell phone services in same countries …..
Then I will discuss rationally with you.




Listen you stupid cow urine drinking idiot check your facts before you talk.




Look at your chootia ugly better countries…. Hiring foreign hookers to dance in your movies doesn’t raise your class or make you white.

Yes, I am extremely frustrated !

But tax collection isn’t the reason !

Trust me, I am a pro tax person and Taxation is my profession as well.

The issue is the directionless future of this state, It’s heading no where !

They have heavily betted on CPEC, Getting loans again and again, But opportunities such as Kalabagh were wasted thanks to “Illiteracy” and “Der inch ki masjid” mindset, Pro ethicist mindset. Kalabagh could have saved up a lot of projects that are a part of CPEC, HEP would have been dominant in the long term but once again, CPEC’s heavily emphasized towards Carbon fuel.

The issue is, All decisions are being taken by jahil corrupts who just do whatever get them higher kickbacks.

Why do I pay tax to a nation that doesn’t provide me security at all, It creates hurdles at every good thing a person can do, Their policies are unjustified especially due to the fact that tax utilization isn’t being reflected in the Engine of Pakistan which is Karachi.

Army could have shown PPP the door but I guess some people have specific interests that stop them from doing good. Karachi is in turmoil, Worsening every day.

 

[That Guy]

Yes, I am extremely frustrated !

But tax collection isn’t the reason !

Trust me, I am a pro tax person and Taxation is my profession as well.

The issue is the directionless future of this state, It’s heading no where !

They have heavily betted on CPEC, Getting loans again and again, But opportunities such as Kalabagh were wasted thanks to “Illiteracy” and “Der inch ki masjid” mindset, Pro ethicist mindset. Kalabagh could have saved up a lot of projects that are a part of CPEC, HEP would have been dominant in the long term but once again, CPEC’s heavily emphasized towards Carbon fuel.

The issue is, All decisions are being taken by jahil corrupts who just do whatever get them higher kickbacks.

Why do I pay tax to a nation that doesn’t provide me security at all, It creates hurdles at every good thing a person can do, Their policies are unjustified especially due to the fact that tax utilization isn’t being reflected in the Engine of Pakistan which is Karachi.

Army could have shown PPP the door but I guess some people have specific interests that stop them from doing good. Karachi is in turmoil, Worsening every day.

If that is your problem, your anger is misplaced, and your judgement is clouded.

Your anger isn't towards the government, but the very concept of Pakistan.

I suggest you calm down, and end these rants. Listen to what people are telling you, instead of just worthless shouting at the internet.

 

[StormBreaker]

If that is your problem, your anger is misplaced, and your judgement is clouded.

Your anger isn't towards the government, but the very concept of Pakistan.

I suggest you calm down, and end these rants. Listen to what people are telling you, instead of just worthless shouting at the internet.

You must know this. Government/Establishment isn’t Pakistan and Pakistan isn’t Government/Establishment.

There is no rocket science in running and developing a country like Pakistan. China is an example, Bangladesh is an example.

Pakistan is being run any anti Pakistan elements.

Period

 

[crankthatskunk]

Why are you bringing in these chor shabaz and maryam ? I don’t consider them politicians, They are gangsters and decoits, Not worthy of my attention.

IK was supposed to be a politician but he is a “tunn”

I will consider your arguments valid if you bring specific and discuss them.

1- Inflation is a worldwide problem at the moment. It is felt more in Pakistan because of poverty, it is same in every poor country at the moment.

2- Sending people to jail is not in the hands of IK. It is the courts, who give "reliefs" to the criminals in the words of "KhatarminAllah". And LHC judges who let NS loose despite him being a convicted criminal. It never happens in the history of judiciary that a criminal is sent out of their jurisdiction by a court.
3- The corrupt bureaucracy is not due to IK, it is the production of the corrupt thugs, who like corrupt people in key positions. There are so many corrupt top tier that despite IK changing people in key positions many times, the problem exists, because almost everyone in position of power is mentally and financially corrupt.

4- The only problem of IK is that he is born in a stupid, arrogant and corrupt nation, something he had no power over.

 

[StormBreaker]

I will consider your arguments valid if you bring specific and discuss them.

1- Inflation is a worldwide problem at the moment. It is felt more in Pakistan because of poverty, it is same in every poor country at the moment.

2- Sending people to jail is not in the hands of IK. It is the courts, who give "reliefs" to the criminals in the words of "KhatarminAllah". And LHC judges who let NS loose despite him being a convicted criminal. It never happens in the history of judiciary that a criminal is sent out of their jurisdiction by a court.
3- The corrupt bureaucracy is not due to IK, it is the production of the corrupt thugs, who like corrupt people in key positions. There are so many corrupt top tier that despite IK changing people in key positions many times, the problem exists, because almost everyone in position of power is mentally and financially corrupt.

4- The only problem of IK is that he is born in a stupid, arrogant and corrupt nation, something he had no power over.

I see, You take IK in high regards.

But his press conference earlier where he says “Every decision passes through me and I am responsible” is enough to blame him for all the foolish steps he is taking.

If IK was really sincere, He should have come to roads, Dragged whole of Pakistan to roads against bureaucracy and Judiciary but this is where fans of IK fail to respond. We could have considered him a leader or hero if he had taken such a step and if he was really concerned for Pakistan because judiciary and Bureaucracy can’t be tackled with peace.