Imran Khan likely to visit Bangladesh in May

[SIPRA]

He may have participated in Soviets in some minor capacity like million of Afghans people but he was never on the front line and Americans never dealt with him during soveit era. I bet you never knew his name before 1996. He was kind of mistarious personality though and not much information is there about him.

Right, you are. Many posters, whether out of ignorance or malafide, mix Anti-Soviet Afghan Mujahideen, Afghan Taliban and TTP. These three are totally different entities, with altogether different objectives, leaderships and associations.

 

[Green Arrow]

I agree. It is called 'framing' in order to change people's past and construct new identities. However, the same applies to many famous people. The old Soviet KGB took framing to a whole new height through forgeries and dubious anecdotes. They were the masters of framing.

KGB was one hell of the spy agency who operated with ruthless approach and a new changes were required any way after the fall of Soveit.

 

[El Sidd]

May cannot come sooner.

It would be historic to have PM Niazi in Dhaka.

Goodluck to media managers!!

 

[Buddhistforlife]

Please know that the Shah of Khwarezm (greater Persia/Iran) was defeated by the idolator Mongol Chenghiz Khan in 1219-1221 and Abbaside Caliph Al Musta'sim was defeated by the military of idolator Halaku Khan in only 11 days in 1258. Now, read how the valiant and brave Islamic Caliph was killed:

"The caliph was captured and forced to watch as his citizens were murdered and his treasury plundered. -----------. Most historians believe the Mongol and Muslim accounts that the caliph was rolled up in a rug and the Mongols rode their horses over him".

@Pan-Islamic-Pakistan, please know that no one from the sky came down to help out the Islamic Caliph. Mongols kept on winning against the Muslims because they had stronger armory, seize weapons, compound bows, as well as brave and valiant cavalry, and they believed in the systematic planning to the warfares. And, as usual, the Muslims believed in Jazba only.

If a war can be won only by deed of valiancy and bravery, then why an Islamic Caliph be killed under the pounding of horse hooves? I am not glorifying the Mongols but I criticize those who live in the first few years of past Muslim (or Arab?) victories. And I dare to criticize them who would not learn lessons from history.

Muslims should wake up and buildup their technology and economy first, based on which stronger weapons can be built. Not going through this painful process, but by adhering to the wrong concept of simple valiancy and bravery, the Muslim countries remain at the lowest rung of the ladder.

I cited only two very sad historical accounts. There are a hundred others.

@OsmanAli98 , @Atlas, @Homo Sapiens, @UKBengali

Some weeks ago I visited a Bangladesh defence page on facebook and there was this post related to Burmese SY-400 missiles. So as usual I took a glimpse at the comments and there was this guy who was claiming that Muslims don't need weapons to fight and they only need Iman and faith in Allah.

So you can see the state of Muslims. Too much fundamentalism and blind faith.

Also you won't believe, in Bangladesh there are many Islamic cleric who propagated that lockdown is a stupid idea as muslims do not fear Coronavirus and if you have hayat then you will survive otherwise you will die.

See the amount of illiteracy of clerics.

 

[bluesky]

Some weeks ago I visited a Bangladesh defence page on facebook and there was this post related to Burmese SY-400 missiles. So as usual I took a glimpse at the comments and there was this guy who was claiming that Muslims don't need weapons to fight and they only need Iman and faith in Allah.

So you can see the state of Muslims. Too much fundamentalism and blind faith.

Also you won't believe, in Bangladesh there are many Islamic cleric who propagated that lockdown is a stupid idea as muslims do not fear Coronavirus and if you have hayat then you will survive otherwise you will die.

See the amount of illiteracy of clerics.

Muslims have to wake up from a faith on superstitions. God only helps him who is willing to help himself. He certainly has not created a special brand of Farishtas to help Muslims to build good roads, highways, bridges, mills and factories in Muslim countries.

Instead, they build these in non-Muslim countries where people do not stay on prayer mats 12 hours. I have heard people of our region systematically cheat the host govts in Europe, Australia and New Zealand to get unemployment benefits while they waste time on prayer mats and talking among themselves how to enter Paradise as if that Paradise exclusively belongs to them. Very sad.

Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan is likely to visit Bangladesh in May of this year to attend a conference of D-8 nations.

Bangladesh is going to hold the conference in Dhaka on May 30 and 31.

It seems that the date of D-8 conference has been changed. It is already the end of June. IK is very popular in BD. I hope people here do not start shouting Pakistan Zindabad as was before 1971. It will embarrass Hazrat Hasina whose politics is to speak ill of Pakistan.

 

[Buddhistforlife]

Muslims have to wake up from a faith on superstitions. God only helps him who is willing to help himself. He certainly has not created a special brand of Farishtas to help Muslims to build good roads, highways, bridges, mills and factories in Muslim countries.

Instead, they build these in non-Muslim countries where people do not stay on prayer mats 12 hours. I have heard people of our region systematically cheat the host govts in Europe, Australia and New Zealand to get unemployment benefits while they waste time on prayer mats and talking among themselves how to enter Paradise as if that Paradise exclusively belongs to them. Very sad.

I don't think this is a Muslim problem. Tbh South Asian muslims- Bangladeshi, Indian, Pakistani, Afghan Muslims are like this for most cases.

I had the privilege to communicate with muslims from Malaysia, Indonesia, Qatar, Turkey etc and they don't sound stupid.

Even I know some Saudi Arabian guys who does not have blind belief or backward mentality.

Also amongst South Asians Bangladeshis are somewhat rationale than Indian, Afghan and Pakistani muslims. The problem with Bangladesh is rampant corruption and poor infrastructure otherwise people here are not reluctant to progress in science and technology.

Bangladeshi muslims generally have a school/college going population comparing to muslims of India, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Bangladeshi muslim women also do not suffer gender based discrimination to greater degree like muslim women of India, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Honour killings, militancy, rampant fundamentalism is high amongst Indian, Afghan and Pakistani muslims especially the tribal people. Bangladesh does not have this problem.

 

[Bilal9]

A loser has nothing lose.
We don't enjoy any support from OIC and from Bangladesh and maldives. Better to leave them and curtail ties to the minimum..No amount of cajoling will do anything as all of them are on India's side. Besides, ruling elite of Bangladesh and a good majority of its people hate Pakistan anyway so I don't know why we are even thinking of going to their country.

Boy are you off base.

Do you even watch when Pakistan and India play cricket matches in Dhaka and who gets support? In Imran Khan's day and even today?

 

[Buddhistforlife]

Boy are you off base.

Do you even watch when Pakistan and India play cricket matches in Dhaka and who gets support? In Imran Khan's day and even today?

It depends here. Bangladeshi muslims generally support Pakistan. Bangladeshi Hindus will always support India.

 

[Buddhistforlife]

Please know that the Shah of Khwarezm (greater Persia/Iran) was defeated by the idolator Mongol Chenghiz Khan in 1219-1221 and Abbaside Caliph Al Musta'sim was defeated by the military of idolator Halaku Khan in only 11 days in 1258. Now, read how the valiant and brave Islamic Caliph was killed:

"The caliph was captured and forced to watch as his citizens were murdered and his treasury plundered. -----------. Most historians believe the Mongol and Muslim accounts that the caliph was rolled up in a rug and the Mongols rode their horses over him".

@Pan-Islamic-Pakistan, please know that no one from the sky came down to help out the Islamic Caliph. Mongols kept on winning against the Muslims because they had stronger armory, seize weapons, compound bows, as well as brave and valiant cavalry, and they believed in the systematic planning to the warfares. And, as usual, the Muslims believed in Jazba only.

If a war can be won only by deed of valiancy and bravery, then why an Islamic Caliph be killed under the pounding of horse hooves? I am not glorifying the Mongols but I criticize those who live in the first few years of past Muslim (or Arab?) victories. And I dare to criticize them who would not learn lessons from history.

Muslims should wake up and buildup their technology and economy first, based on which stronger weapons can be built. Not going through this painful process, but by adhering to the wrong concept of simple valiancy and bravery, the Muslim countries remain at the lowest rung of the ladder.

I cited only two very sad historical accounts. There are a hundred others.

@OsmanAli98 , @Atlas, @Homo Sapiens, @UKBengali

What was the religion of Mongols when they conquered Baghdad?

 

[bluesky]

What was the religion of Mongols when they conquered Baghdad?

Hulagu's Mongols believed basically in Shamanism.

 

[Hiptullha]

Mujahideens as termed by Washington was the same group (namely Pashtuns) that formed the taliban after soviet defeat

I understand this an old post, but since the thread is still going, might as well correct obvious untruths.
The Mujahideen wasn't a Pashtun group, Washington never trained any Mujahideen fighters and the Taliban emerged from refugee camps outside of Afghanistan.
I know people here have a habit for blaming everything on CIA or Pakistan, but the Mujahideen resistance in Afghanistan arose independently due to an absolutely barbaric regime in Afghanistan which was engaged in purging anyone deemed to be opposition. This meant people from other Leftist parties and factions or "Islamists" (A person who went to the Masjid too often could easily be branded an Islamist according to those bastards). The Soviet Union intervened just to get rid of the dictator who was running the Khalq regime and impose one who killed less people.

 

[TopCat]

I understand this an old post, but since the thread is still going, might as well correct obvious untruths.
The Mujahideen wasn't a Pashtun group, Washington never trained any Mujahideen fighters and the Taliban emerged from refugee camps outside of Afghanistan.
I know people here have a habit for blaming everything on CIA or Pakistan, but the Mujahideen resistance in Afghanistan arose independently due to an absolutely barbaric regime in Afghanistan which was engaged in purging anyone deemed to be opposition. This meant people from other Leftist parties and factions or "Islamists" (A person who went to the Masjid too often could easily be branded an Islamist according to those bastards). The Soviet Union intervened just to get rid of the dictator who was running the Khalq regime and impose one who killed less people.

Afhgan people are too unruly to be ruled by anybody. Killing by regime comes next.

 

[Nike]

Muslims have to wake up from a faith on superstitions. God only helps him who is willing to help himself. He certainly has not created a special brand of Farishtas to help Muslims to build good roads, highways, bridges, mills and factories in Muslim countries.

Instead, they build these in non-Muslim countries where people do not stay on prayer mats 12 hours. I have heard people of our region systematically cheat the host govts in Europe, Australia and New Zealand to get unemployment benefits while they waste time on prayer mats and talking among themselves how to enter Paradise as if that Paradise exclusively belongs to them. Very sad.


It seems that the date of D-8 conference has been changed. It is already the end of June. IK is very popular in BD. I hope people here do not start shouting Pakistan Zindabad as was before 1971. It will embarrass Hazrat Hasina whose politics is to speak ill of Pakistan.

Generally, Muslims from South East Asia is much more industrious, hard worker, and had secular minded when doing their daily life and to do business/trade when compared to other region except the Turks and some Maghribi countries like Tunisia, Marocco and Algeria.

 

[Buddhistforlife]

Generally, Muslims from South East Asia is much more industrious, hard worker, and had secular minded when doing their daily life and to do business/trade when compared to other region except the Turks and some Maghribi countries like Tunisia, Marocco and Algeria.

Some Arab states were also peaceful. Iraq, Syria, Egypt these were tolerant of Christians but now after ISIS tookover the region things became pretty bad.

 

[Buddhistforlife]

Hulagu's Mongols believed basically in Shamanism.

But as per google Mongols are Buddhists. Hulagu Khan was also a Buddhist. Genghis khan's grandson the great Kublai Khan was also Buddhist?

Did Mongols follow multiple religion by any chance?