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Imran Khan: Impressed by Saudi Anti-Corruption Model

They are developing country but not developed though! They haven't become that great even with Oil.... Canada has economy which is x3 larger than KSA, with only few million higher population...
We already have law which is 100% proven best for muslim. You are giving canadian example then I will like to example of Hazrat Umar(R.A) he Hazrat Umar Farooq (RA) conquered 22,00,000 square miles area without any trained army during 10 Years by following the Islamic Shariat Law.
 
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Let Saudi Arabia take over our government for one month. Economy will be boom and corruption will be gone, Kafan and grave diggers will be happy. lol
 
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You don't lockup your elite on hunch. You make a case that will stand test of time and in any court in the world. Imran Khan always talked about independents institutions and not locking up people like a dictator.

That’s a nice thought but this is Pakistan. They get locked up and are able to have parties in jail lol.
 
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We already have law which is 100% proven best for muslim. You are giving canadian example then I will like to example of Hazrat Umar(R.A) he Hazrat Umar Farooq (RA) conquered 22,00,000 square miles area without any trained army during 10 Years by following the Islamic Shariat Law.
Which Law, without oil or gas I see nothing special about Muslim economies or education system.... Here this video may be of some interest to you..



Let Saudi Arabia take over our government for one month. Economy will be boom and corruption will be gone, Kafan and grave diggers will be happy. lol
What a bizarre thought, you wan't Pakistan to become even more backward..... KSA is one of the least freest countries on the planet...
 
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True. KSA is a oil superpower. Over 90% of the countries exports are petroleum and petroleum products. Without oil KSA would be a third world be poverty stricken state.

Wrong.

67%.

https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/sau/

Dutch disease and all.

South Korea, was never a world power, like Arabs were for millennia. If they can do what they did, I see no reason why Arabs (entrepreneurial and great businessmen historically) cannot. If we remove religious retardation as has been the case in KSA for 40+ years unlike South Korea and a constantly volatile region, unlike South Korea post WW2.

Not sure about that. KSA has more mineral and gas wealth than 95% of all the world's countries. KSA lies between the 3 main continents of the world. Borders the most busy maritime trade routes. Hosts Makkah and Madinah.

Arabia was never really poverty stricken. Famines were almost non-existent unlike in most regions of the world.

Hijaz, where most of the population of KSA lives in, was never poverty-stricken, rather the contrary.

This below is poverty stricken.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_famine_of_1917–1919

In fact Arabia was one of the richest areas of the world for millennia due to trade.

All the way back to the incense trade 3000 + years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incense_Route

The Kingdom of Hijaz for instance was one of the more wealthy entities in the Middle East at the turn of the 20th century.

Nor is KSA's population huge. In fact without that rampant industrialization citizens would be entirely self-sufficient agricultural, water etc. wise and even enough to export (as in the old days).

Tribalism (as in violent or militant) ended even before KSA was united by Ibn Saud.

People would be fine even if not having the current-day living standards. We would be another Lebanon or Jordan. Above average (worldwide). Probably much better due to what I mentioned above.

So i was right.

He comes back speaking Arabic.

And i am a Troll here. How romantic

Urdu, your national language, does it not have 100's (if not 1000's) of Arabic loanwords or words of Arabic origin and uses more of such Arabic loanwords and words than any other foreign language?

Many of the Turkic and Farsi loanwords are actually themselves of Arabic origins due to those languages (in particular Farsi and before Kemalism Ottoman Turkish, which was more Arabic than Turkish) incorporating 1000's of Arabic loanwords to their own languages, including the Arabic alphabet.

In fact Imran Khan, being a Pashtun (although he is part Muhajir from what I read, mother's family from Indian Punjab or something), his people use the Arabic alphabet (Naskh).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naskh_(script)
 
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Urdu, your national language

Has words from hundreds of languages but it does Not have a word for forrest or Tiger.

We have a political Party which has a Tiger as party Symbol and Call it a lion.

What about Arabic? Forrest and Tiger words?
 
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Has words from hundreds of languages but it does Not have a word for forrest or Tiger.

We have a political Party which has a Tiger as party Symbol and Call it a lion.

What about Arabic? Forrest and Tiger words?

Yet, Arabic tops that list and Urdu also uses the Arabic alphabet. If Arabic is a problem, I think that Pakistanis are living a lie. Did the IVC city states have any independent alphabet that we know of? Maybe restore that instead?

Pakistan has barely more forrest cover than KSA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_forest_area

And that data is outdated as millions upon millions of trees and several forests have been planted in KSA in recent years alone. While we speak millions of trees are being planted alongside all railways in the country.

Tigers? We used to have lions less than 100 years ago (last place in the region were lions roamed freely - Many Arabic forenames derive from the word lion, many symbols etc. as well),


The lions that you see on the coat of arms of quite a few countries (from Ethiopia in the past to Iran in the past) is all taken from older Arab/Semitic symbols related to the lion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_depictions_of_lions

Arabs love lions so much they name their sons after them in 15 different ways

https://stepfeed.com/arabs-love-lio...eir-sons-after-them-in-15-different-ways-8872

Can any other people say the above? I highly doubt that.

Wild cheetahs have returned to the wild/national parks and the Arabian Leopard is still living in the wild.

But no, we don't have Siberian tigers or Bengal tigers as KSA is not a tundra nor a jungle.
 
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Which Law, without oil I see nothing special about Muslim economies or education system.... Here this video may be of some interest to you..




What a bizarre thought, you wan't Pakistan to become even more backward..... KSA is one of the least freest countries on the planet...

Just one month......
Don’t think too much about the negative...
You should think about the positive side, you can get rid of the corruption from bureaucracy, politics, Army, Security agencies, police and judicial system.
Once the system is clean, you can start the rebuilding process.
 
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Just one month......
Don’t think too much about the negative...
You should think about the positive side, you can get rid of the corruption from bureaucracy, politics, Army, Security agencies, police and judicial system.
Once the system is clean, you can start the rebuilding process.

The retards in those videos do not understand that civilization/power/influence is not static. Since writing emerged in the modern-day Arab world (Arab/Semitic Near East to be more precisely), our people dominated almost all walks of life for millennia upon millennia. Almost 10.000 years. From the earliest Neolithic culture (Natufian) in Southern Levant/Northern Arabia to the Assyrian Empire 2600 years ago.

During that era only the ancient Greek city states (although almost all written Greek content occurred post 600 BC, back then Rome was an insignificant small settlement, no Persian entity either). In fact from 14.000 BC to 600 BC only civilizations in China and the IVC (of which we know little about in terms of name of rulers, language, alphabet etc.) played any importance in comparison.

In more "recent era" the Muslim Arabs and Islamic civilization that stretched from the same Western Europe (Southern France) to Xinjiang/Sindh in the east, was ahead of the same West on almost every front.

To the point where all leading universities in the West (Oxford, Bologna, Cambridge, Sorbonne etc.) taught Arabic as one of the main courses. In other words Arabic was the language of science back then along with Greek.

JOURNAL ARTICLE
The Study of Foreign Languages in the Middle Ages

https://www.jstor.org/stable/2847789

The study of foreign languages in 17th-century England


https://www.persee.fr/doc/hel_0750-8069_1985_num_7_2_1314

It only took the Renaissance (of which the Arab/Muslim contribution cannot be underestimated) for Europeans/Western Europe to regain some of its relevancy that it had during the small ancient Greek city states and the more recent Roman empire.

So unless you want to forget 90% of written history (if not 95%) and boil it down to largely/mostly 500 years of history, you can make such claims.

Of course the modern-day world was shaped by the West. However the knowledge that they accumulated did not fall down from the sky. It was/is part of a larger layer whose origins predate that knowledge by millennia.

No alphabet, no numbers, no match, no science as a whole, no Western progress.

Let me ask in another way.

Where was the UK in 800 AD? Or Scandinavia in 700 AD? I am not even talking BC here.

And if science is everything then KSA (as an example) is ranked in the top 30 (28th place) worldwide out of 200 sovereign nation states which is rather good if you ask me considering the population and the fact that modern-day KSA was never a Western colony so we did not have colonizers building modern-day Western-styled universities for us some 150 years ago. Rather it began 60-70 years ago (funded by KSA not the colonizer) and today we have the best ranked universities in the Muslim world.

If that is not progress/evolvement, I do not know what is.

Our literacy rate is almost 100% nowadays. We are one of the few countries in the world where women outnumber men at the universities despite of certain retarded restrictions that still remain in place.

https://www.natureindex.com/annual-tables/2018/country/all

When most of Europe's population will be reduced to half of what it is today (as per demographic models) by 2100 and much more than 50% of the population will be pensioners, economic power reduced heavily, we will see where they will be in terms of science and innovation.

I would bet on say 170 million big Iraq (by then), if governed responsibly and successfully, having a bigger chance of contributing to science (once again) in a very important fashion, rather than 20 million big Ukraine) or 10 million big Netherlands.

Why? Because our ancestors already showed their greatness for millennia. So unless we are all the genetic crap of our forefathers, there is no reason why this cannot be repeated if the circumstances are right and that is all what it is about when you study history. The right circumstances. Similar to being "at the right place at the right time" or the opposite, "being at the wrong place at the wrong time".
 
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Has words from hundreds of languages but it does Not have a word for forrest or Tiger.

We have a political Party which has a Tiger as party Symbol and Call it a lion.

What about Arabic? Forrest and Tiger words?

Are you dumb?

Urdu does not have words for Tiger and Forrest? :lol::lol:

Are you one of those ABCDs born and raised abroad and using Pakistani flags?
 
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An operation like Saudia can work in Pakistan but Khan needs a heavier mandate for it
I have little to no regard for all human right violations that may take placd during it

Yesterday jail pictures proved the rot is deep
 
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How has that worked out in Pakistan for 70 years?

A country of 200 million people, with a relatively strategic location, a British-ruled heritage (that helped shape the security guarantor that is the Pakistani army) a large diaspora in the West, fertile land along the Indus river and a culture of English as a second or third language, should be doing way, way better than it is. Irrespective of having no oil, gas or few minerals (I doubt that Pakistan has no valuable minerals).

Look at South Korea. It was poorer than any Middle Eastern society and Pakistan pre-WW2. Yet look at them now.

Has Pakistan not been a democracy for decades as well (another British heritage)? I often see Pakistanis here point fingers at Middle Eastern users for not "understanding" how democracy works and how they are not democracies unlike Pakistan. You included.

So how has that "experiment" worked out so far?o_O

Maybe the hard cold truth is that authoritarianism or some kind of it, is needed in Pakistan.

I know that KSA and China would not be where they are today, irrespective of natural resources and population size, if the system was a "Swedish buffet". It would turn into a wild west. Political parties would be centered around regions, clans, tribes etc. Similar as in Pakistan.

A few decades of "democracy" in Pakistan won't be able to remove centuries if not millennia of history and local practices.
It is very lengthy subject.
 
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