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Updated at: 1350 PST, Monday, June 23, 2008

KUWAIT CITY: Organization of Islamic Countries (OIC)’s spokesman Faisal Muhammad said Monday that imperial forces were netting lock ups to trap Pakistan and Iran was likely to be hazardous for Pakistan.

He termed Pakistan an important member country of OIC and Islamic world therefore all Muslim countries keep very close eye over the changes occurred in Pakistan.

Faisal Muhammad said that due to the imperial elements’ involvement, the judges’ restoration movement in Pakistan had turned into Musharruf alleviation movement. Gen. Musharruf paved Pakistan way in troubled times.

Iran had been listed amid the most threatening countries of the world that could prove perilous for Pakistan too, he asserted.

Spokesman said that the current situation be resolved with peace and for which he was in touch with the regional leaders.
 
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Atta boy!patriot. I was beginning to think no was going to this up. good work.

Now, what would possess the OIC to issue sucha statement? Who is the statement aimed at? In response to what?:pakistan::pakistan::china:
 
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Pakistan is already trapped and that is the sad commentary!

You may not like the idea, but ask yourself!
 
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Pakistan is being trapped but our weak foreign policy has much of hand played in it. Even countries with Mayors are threatening Pakistan, why because our ******* leaders are too damn busy to grab the chair and play dirty politics rather then combining themselves on these highly volatile situations being risen and to ensure that Pakistan is taken out Safely from this mess. The basic principle behind the reconciliation was indeed this which does not seem to be the case now.
 
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OIC......... hasnt have any value in world affairs.... it is just a organization... in which muslims can show their frustration, but cant have any cure for the sickness??
 
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Pakistan is already trapped and that is the sad commentary!

You may not like the idea, but ask yourself!
Yes! Imperial forces have trapped Pakistan.

I keep telling people, we must oppose. Whatever they want, we should want the opposite. A direct opposite line of thought is what is needed. The hour to search for common ground is over. When it comes to our country, it should be our way or the highway.

It's not that the imperial forces are for or against the restoration of judges. They are for the issue to linger in limbo for as long as possible.
 
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Yes! Imperial forces have trapped Pakistan.

I keep telling people, we must oppose. Whatever they want, we should want the opposite. A direct opposite line of thought is what is needed. The hour to search for common ground is over. When it comes to our country, it should be our way or the highway.

It's not that the imperial forces are for or against the restoration of judges. They are for the issue to linger in limbo for as long as possible.

There is nothing called ''Imperialist'' forces. It is archaic.

It is geo politics and geo strategy!!

Pakistan is a centre of gravity for both and so her woes!!

Reconcile. And be happy.

Hakuna Matata.

Lie down and enjoy it!
 
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Updated at: 1350 PST, Monday, June 23, 2008

KUWAIT CITY: Organization of Islamic Countries (OIC)’s spokesman Faisal Muhammad said Monday that imperial forces were netting lock ups to trap Pakistan and Iran was likely to be hazardous for Pakistan.

He termed Pakistan an important member country of OIC and Islamic world therefore all Muslim countries keep very close eye over the changes occurred in Pakistan.

Faisal Muhammad said that due to the imperial elements’ involvement, the judges’ restoration movement in Pakistan had turned into Musharruf alleviation movement. Gen. Musharruf paved Pakistan way in troubled times.

Iran had been listed amid the most threatening countries of the world that could prove perilous for Pakistan too, he asserted.

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Up to here its propaganda, Iran would be the greatest ally if the Arabs moved away form worshipping the US/Israel policies.
 
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i dont think that iran is a threat to pakistan i think if both of these countries work togather we can achieve a lot. as far as pakistan being surrounded by more powerful countries, i dont think that this is something new for us we have always dealt with an afghanistan that was supported by the russians and an india that was supported by the russian. this is nothing new for us and i think that we will be fine as time goes by.
 
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Iran can never be an ally.

They are Shia.

They will screw the **** out of the Sunnis!

Not acceptable!
 
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Iran can never be an ally.
They are Shia.
They will screw the **** out of the Sunnis!
Not acceptable!

I respect your observations but I cant agree. When Pakistan was created the first country to recognize it was Iran. In the 50s their was even talk of merging the two countries. In the late 70s and 80s everything changed, whose details I wont go into for obvious reasons. Now I am hopeful relations get better between the two countries. But will it happen is anyone's guess.
 
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Iran can never be an ally.

They are Shia.

They will screw the **** out of the Sunnis!

Not acceptable!

And you know this because? :rolleyes::lol: Everything is relative. Pakistan and Iran have had extremely close ties in the past because the interests converged. In the future if both are faced with similar threats, convergence of interests is very much a likelihood.
 
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OIC should start by passing such judgements about its members first. Who has trapped soodi arabeeya? Why are there amreeki bases on the holy peninsula? Why do we trade oil only in US Dollars?
 
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A close examination of Iran-Pakistan relations reveals differences and many difficulties. Both might be Islamic nations, but Pakistan is Sunni-dominated, while Iran is overwhelmingly Shi'ite. This difference would assume critical importance in their bilateral relations with the 1979 Iranian Revolution. Relations between the Pakistan's military dictator General Zia ul-Haq and Iran's new rulers were poor right from the start. Iran's rulers viewed Zia with deep suspicion. How could they forget the fact that the general had traveled to Iran in 1977-78 to shore up the Shah's regime.

What contributed further to the deterioration in Pakistan-Iran relations was Zia's Islamization initiative that was set in motion in 1979. This drive claimed to have a universal Islamic vision. In reality it was based on a narrow Sunni interpretation of Islamic theology and law. It was therefore unacceptable to Iran's Shi'ite clerics. As Zia's government pressed ahead with its sectarian agenda – it took a series of measures that gave a fillip to Sunni extremism, even encouraging the setting up of Sunni militant organizations –the Iranian government pushed ahead with exporting Shi'ite extremism, encouraging and arming Shi'ite extremism to counter Sunni militancy in Pakistan.

In the process, Pakistan became an important battleground between Sunni and Shi'ite forces in the region. This had serious impact on Iran-Pakistan relations. The impact of this backing of Shi'ite and Sunni extremism by the Iranian and Pakistani governments is felt to date in the region.

This mutual suspicion would deepen as the crisis in Afghanistan erupted and worsened. Zia's cozying up with the Americans and the way he welcomed the American military presence into Pakistan/Afghanistan and therefore the region was deeply resented by Iran's anti-American rulers. While Iran was uneasy with the proximity of the Americans to its borders, it was just as unhappy with the irreligious Soviets' occupation of Afghanistan.

Iran armed and funded Shi'ite resistance groups throughout the 1980s and maintained links with them after the Soviet withdrawal in late 1989. The rise of the Sunni Taliban in the mid-1990s in Afghanistan triggered great alarm in Iran and Pakistan's role in this development naturally plunged Iran-Pakistan relations further. It simultaneously led to a new warming in India-Iran relations, contributing to heightened suspicion in Pakistan of Teheran's intentions towards Islamabad.

With Iran and India backing the Northern Alliance and coordinating its anti-Taliban strategy in Afghanistan, Pakistan's wariness of Iran deepened. In August 1998, Iran was enraged with Pakistan for not preventing the killing of several of its diplomats who were captured by the Taliban in the northern Afghan city of Mazar-e-Sharif. It did seem for a while that Iran would even militarily retaliate for the death of its diplomats and that Pakistan would not escape Tehran's wrath.

Post-Taliban, Iran-Pakistan ties seem to have improved. Iran's concerns with regard to Pakistan's backing of the Taliban seem to have been allayed somewhat with the Pakistani government reversing its earlier policy of support to the Taliban. Tehran and Islamabad have taken big strides with regard to a proposed pipeline from Iran's oilfields through Pakistan to India and the two have recently agreed to conduct joint naval exercises.

These, however, seem to be incidents of tactical cooperation between Iran and Pakistan. Mutual suspicion persists. Tehran blames Pakistan for the American presence in Afghanistan and Central Asia. It suspects Pakistan of cooperating with the US against Iran.

Pakistan suspects an Iranian hand in the turmoil in Balochistan. It believes that Iran is wary of the emergence of Gwadar port as a serious competitor to the strategic significance to the Iranian port city of Chabahar. And it is wary of Iran's warming ties with its number one enemy, India.

For all their claims of "brotherly ties", therefore, Iran and Pakistan have been deeply suspicious of each other for decades. It is therefore difficult to understand the nuclear cooperation between these two bitter rivals. It does seem that while they were on the one hand busy arming rival militias, they were also holding hands - albeit clandestinely - on the nuclear issue.
Asia Times Online :: South Asia news, business and economy from India and Pakistan
 
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Again, when a common threat emerges, what and who is to stop the two from cooperating? Even the above article states that the two have held hands on issues of common interest. Just recently Pakistan handed over some Jundullah cadres over to Iran. I think there are already efforts afoot to bring stability in Baluchistan with Iranian cooperation. Pakistan may be against a nuclear Iran, but at the same time does not want to see an attack on Iran.

Also the article above provides very superficial reasons for the split between Iran and Pakistan. The Sunni/Shia thing is there, however that is not the main reason and has never been. Pakistan is 70/30 split in terms of Sunni/Shias. Shias are present in all of the Pakistani policy making bodies and in very senior roles. Zia was never anti-Shia as this article falsely makes it out to be. An example of this is the stand that Zia took when the Pakistani Armoured Brigade to KSA went in 82. The Saudis only wanted Sunni officers and men in the Kingdom. Zia said no deal! In the end, the Pakistani brigade went to KSA for 8 yeas and included all of the Shia and Sunni officers and men.

The primary bone of contention between Pakistan and Iran was the Taliban factor. Iranians have always backed the Darri speaking Tajiks (for ethnic reasons) even though Tajiks are mostly Sunnis. Pakistan's support of Pashtun Taliban irked Iran and the same went for Pakistan's annoyance with Iranian support for the Tajiks. Since the Taliban have been booted, the relations have become much better, otherwise even IPI would not have gotten as far as it has. Overall Pakistani and Iranian interests are converging.
 
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