I'm so sick and tired of hearing what India is doing why cant I hear what are we doing?

[MastanKhan]

In simple kashmir is gone and no one cares about it in Pakistan.

we had NSC and Core commander Conference meetings, but we dont have policy as to how we are going to respond. if Pakistan leadership thinks that india is going to stop here they are under immense delusion.

War is here to stay.

Hi,

The enemy does not give a sh-it if you make it or is it made in the US---.

Its only concern is---'How many of these you have"---.

Now you seeing the results of what happened 37 years ago---when you make a bad choice knowingly and buy the wrong aircraft---and then year after year of being told that it was a wrong buy---you still don't correct the error---.

The next error---instead of meeting the minimum threshold of fighter aircraft in inventory---you chose to build your own before you reach that number---.

Which meant---that during that period of shortage---the defense of the nation would be extremely vulnerable---and that is what has happened---.

Everything that I have talked about in the last 14 years that I have been on this forum is coming true in one form or the other---.

Paf created a euphoria amongst the public of building own aircraft---and the fools in the public did not have the brains to understand "what would happen during the years that we have this massive shortage of fighter aircraft---".

Why would the enemy wait for us to reach parity---?

And that is what has happened---. Once we have the JF17 with aesa---the game changes---so the enemy struck before it happened---.

Paf is one stupidity after another---one blunder after another---this organization is so screwed up and has screwed up the country so hard---it is unbelievable---.

 

[blain2]

In simple kashmir is gone and no one cares about it in Pakistan.

we had NSC and Core commander Conference meetings, but we dont have policy as to how we are going to respond. if Pakistan leadership thinks that india is going to stop here they are under immense delusion.

War is here to stay.

Because how we are to respond isn't something to disclose publicly. Just because we live in the age of Internet does not mean that national security policies will be run like an open book.

Secondly, unlike the politicians who thrive on sensationalizing things, people here should realize that India has done what it intended to do, now Pakistan has the time and space to respond.

 

[Super Falcon]

Agreed stupid mentality of condeming its time to openly act our religion allow us if some one attack u first answer him with same grudge

 

[letsrock]

India will pay for this. Now that the fig leaf for Kashmir is gone - the instrument of accession is made null and void - India is just an invader and a land grabber of Kashmir in the israeli mold. No kashmiri mainstream leader can back India. India thinks it can simply held on to the land by crushing the people who belong it. But Indians dont have backing from USA like Israelis have. And neighborhood here in Pakistan and China both strongly back Kashmir.

 

[BRAVO_]

in my opinion ... just make it very expensive for Indian military to control the Kashmir ... Americans or other forces spend billions of dollars in Afghanistan and now they are not in a position to spend anymore therefore they are looking for other solutions, so this is what the right course

 

[khansaheeb]

If it's on then I think we need to threaten India.
1 As 370 ends India and Kashmir no longer in contract. So even those who went into contract are now calling India illegitimate occupation force.
2 We should start with Air strikes in Indian occupied Kashmir. If they want to open offensive then so be it. Whole Pakistan's morale is high and nation is ready and rallying behind PM Imran Khan
3 So mr Prime Minister it's time to show the courage of tipu Sultan and live it that Shair ki eik din ki zindagi gedhar kay soo seal ki zindagi say bahtair.
Time to strike
Time to strike
Time to strike
Time to strike

Well here it is : We are doing nothing.

 

[HSFA]

india we will come wait & see

 

[Enigma SIG]

In simple kashmir is gone and no one cares about it in Pakistan.

It has been gone for the last 70 years; not sure from under which rock you emerged from lately.

And that is what has happened---. Once we have the JF17 with aesa---the game changes---so the enemy struck before it happened---.

Paf is one stupidity after another---one blunder after another---this organization is so screwed up and has screwed up the country so hard---it is unbelievable---.

Hindsight is always 20/20. You "think" you can predict what the future holds.

 

[MastanKhan]

It has been gone for the last 70 years; not sure from under which rock you emerged from lately.



Hindsight is always 20/20. You "think" you can predict what the future holds.

Hi,

Yes you can do that---. I have been doing that over here for the last 15 years now---.

 

[IndoCarib]

If it's on then I think we need to threaten India.
1 As 370 ends India and Kashmir no longer in contract. So even those who went into contract are now calling India illegitimate occupation force.
2 We should start with Air strikes in Indian occupied Kashmir. If they want to open offensive then so be it. Whole Pakistan's morale is high and nation is ready and rallying behind PM Imran Khan
3 So mr Prime Minister it's time to show the courage of tipu Sultan and live it that Shair ki eik din ki zindagi gedhar kay soo seal ki zindagi say bahtair.
Time to strike
Time to strike
Time to strike
Time to strike

And Pakistan has struck !

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/pak...trade-with-india-2081826?pfrom=home-topscroll

 

[Wrath]

Not Muslims all along the border !!!

Yes... We can, but what if they starts bombing our villages in reply??? We cant bomb their civilians as they are our fellow Muslims

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Well here it is : We are doing nothing.

You are, it's just that you're doing just the same tactics. Causing disruption - it's not a bad tactic. But I couldn't predict that the current policy makers in India no matter how unorthodox they are would do this. And Pakistan's response is more of the same. India with the act removed has more options regarding Kashmir now.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

What do you suppose I have been explaining to everyone here for quite sometime now?

Pakistan stronger economically, united as a nation and well prepared in war stock as well as firmly placed alliances, is capable of defeating Indian designs (permeated by her Zionist Ally, Israel).

What ... you think it's not been tried before? Take a look at the map again. It shows Pakistan's advance toward Akhnur in 1965. What happened then? Why did we stop? Ever read books on 1965 War, both Pakistani and Indian perspective? Do you know why Pakistan couldn't break through to cut off India at Jummu? Do you know what the level Pakistan Military's war stocks were at the time? Do you know how we were stopped dead in the tracks because of U.S embargo?

We went in because we thought we had them, without thinking about strategic blow-back from our supposed ally.

My friend, wars are fought and won before we even enter the battlefield. Strategic planning isn't a term, it is reality. Chess isn't a game, it is how strategies are formed. And strategies aren't formed when people are emotionally charged and prone to rash decisions.

China was conquered, pillaged and destroyed by imperial Japan. It was because Japan executed the perfect stratagem, where China was embroiled in civil war. Look at where China is today, with the world's 2nd largest economy. And look at where Japan is today, with a population in rapid decline and an economy that is wobbling.

Pakistan will liberate Kashmir with a strong in Imaan, Muslim population. Pakistan will liberate Kashmir with being powerful economically. Pakistan will liberate Kashmir with giant allies on it's side. Pakistan will liberate Kashmir, with Pakistanis who do not worship bollywood and who have eradicated corruption within our society and political elite.

Go to war without any of these things, and the losses Pakistan will face will be incalculable.

Thanks for tons of great analysis!! The entire game plan of RSS/Hindutuva is to keep the base constantly energized (read zombified) with one stunt after another!!! 02-27 has shown them not all stunts might work well! So, work on the doable ones!!! Who other than the Muslims and other minorities within India fit the bills better??

 

[nahtanbob]

Hi,

It is now a matter of short time---that---most of you will admit that the Paf did indeed sabotage the integrity of pakistan and kashmir when wrongly assessed between 2003---2005 that there was no threat of war with india---thus refuting the need to buy the F16's on a fastrak---.

And to make sure---no aircraft were forcefully bought by the army---the Paf command donated the money to earthquake relief fund---based on the fact---

" you cannot make a flute without a hollow piece of wood "---.

No funds no aircraft---. So---they just simply destroyed any opportunity to procure the aircraft---. Next they refused to get the J10's that Musharraf had signed the deal with the chinese---.

Do you really think the India cannot match any Pakistani acquisition of combat aircraft ? They are sitting on $400 billion in FOREX

 

[AUz]

And Pakistan has struck !

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/pak...trade-with-india-2081826?pfrom=home-topscroll

These are ground-work measures since indians are scared shitless and have not crossed the limits and tried anything stupid. Because when that happened, that's how Pakistan 'struck'

Its funny---indians are so beaten down and humiliated, that even the most minor of things tickle their small b@lls and make them happy.

It took you 70+ years to do a legal change in an area that has been under your de-facto control for decades, and you think its some sort of chest-thumping victory?

If Pakistanis were like you, we would celebrate 'victory' after building Mosques in our own country (which is 98% Muslim)....like wtf?

The reaction to removal of 370 are very emotive and hence both governments are engaged in 'tensions' (which has happened b/w indo-Pak thousands of times).

But on the ground, on de-facto basis, nothing much has changed. Pakistan controls its part of Kashmir, india control its....situation remains a stalemate (which is by default humiliating to india since its a 7x larger nation and yet can not go beyond a 'stalemate' with 7x smaller power. If the roles were reversed, and Islamic state of Pakistan was the size and resources of india, while india was 7x smaller than us----we would have ran over you decades ago and repeated the humiliation at will

But the best you could do against us (W.Pakistan) is a stalemate