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I'm a Muslim, not a terrorist. So why did the NYPD spy on me for years ?

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Mohammad Elshinawy (Duncan Kendall for The Washington Post)

A couple of weeks after I began lecturing on Islam at New York City mosques, something strange happened. Acquaintances and congregants told me they’d been approached by law enforcement officers, who asked about me and my talks. Soon after, I began to notice suspicious people in the audiences. One gentleman stood out — he was the most frequent attendee, but he regularly fell asleep while I spoke.

It was 2003. I was a student at Brooklyn College, studying English literature. I’d grown up in New York and loved the city. But I’d also seen the way Muslims were discriminated against, particularly after Sept. 11, 2001. In the year after the attacks, hate crimes spiked tenfold. I wanted to encourage Muslims to stay strong in their faith in spite of these assaults. I spoke on theology and visiting the sick, on skepticism and the sinful pursuit of instant gratification, on the gravity of injustice and the vastness of God’s mercy.

I wasn’t doing anything wrong. I consistently rejected violence and terrorism in my lectures. Still, for a decade, I felt like I was under surveillance, pursued by shadowy law enforcement officials seeking out a crime that didn’t exist.

In 2013, my fears were confirmed. I found out from an Associated Press investigation that I was a victim of the New York Police Department’s aggressive surveillance of Muslims. According to news articles, after 9/11 the NYPD began to track large swaths of us. Officers secretly labeled entire mosques as terrorist organizations, then spied on imams and recorded sermons. The department conducted at least a dozen of these “terrorism enterprise investigations” since 2001, often without specific evidence of criminal wrongdoing and minimal oversight from judges. No charges were ever brought as a result of the activities of the so-called “demographics” unit.

Entire congregations were targeted. Entire Muslim communities — from bookstores to restaurants — were monitored. Those practices turned innocent people into suspects, making us feel isolated and afraid of the police. Because of the NYPD’s widespread use of informants, we stopped trusting our neighbors as well.

Though I’d suspected that local cops were spying on innocent Muslims, the extent of their surveillance surpassed even my worst fears. The police had been following me everywhere, according to documents unearthed in the investigation. Once, a man came to my home claiming that he would do anything for a certain Egyptian delicacy his late mother had made for him years prior. Others in the community warned me later that he’d been asking about me. An informant even infiltrated my wedding, videotaping everyone who attended. My wife and I had been surveilled while shopping for rings earlier that day, according to internal police documents. “We have nothing on the lucky bride at this time but hopefully will learn about her at the service,” one NYPD lieutenant wrote in a report about me that was uncovered by the Associated Press.

After the Associated Press revelations, I wasn’t just uneasy. I was terrified. I felt like I lived in a house without walls, vulnerable to police scrutiny all the time. I was constantly anxious about what I said and whom I talked to. I feared for my wife as well. I suspected those around me, including friends and family. People from outside our community — they appeared to be undercover officers or informants — were asking about me. Friends and colleagues distanced themselves out of fear that they, too, would be swept up in the NYPD’s net.

After 2013, I began creating mental filters through which to run my speech in sermons and among my peers holding back anything that could be seen as controversial. In my lectures, I played down Islamic values of valor and heroism, worrying that informants would assume, incorrectly, that I was promoting aggression or violence. I hesitated before publicly discussing the devastation faced by innocent civilians in the Muslim world, in case someone distorted my lessons on empathy as something “anti-American.”

To justify its spying, the NYPD used my charity work against me, suggesting that the camping trips I’d organized for low-income children and teens whom I’d mostly met through my talks at mosques was actually a military exercise. In truth, during those weekends, we simply played basketball, ran obstacle courses and swam in races. The police accused me of downloading the most extreme parts of radical clerics’ talks. In fact, I listened to a wide range of speakers in preparation for my lectures. The police pointed to suspicions about my father, saying he was a close associate of Omar Abdel Rahman, who was convicted of aiding in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. I was a child at the time, and my father was never charged with any crimes. And the NYPD accused me of radicalizing members of my mosque whom I’d never met.

The police kept this investigation up for years, long after the FBI determined that I wasn’t a threat, according to the Associated Press.

Now, I’m hopeful that those difficult years have ended. In June 2013, I joined a lawsuit against the NYPD’s expansive surveillance targeting New York’s Muslims. Last month, the NYPD settled that case with me and five other plaintiffs. The department agreed to a number of important safeguards on police practices, including a ban on investigations that stem mainly from religion, race or ethnicity. The settlement, subject to final approval by the court, would also impose reforms to prevent years-long, open-ended surveillance. And it would install a civilian monitor to act as a check on any investigation relating to political or religious activities.

I don’t expect my fellow citizens to agree with all of my views, like my conviction that Islam is the divine truth revealed from Almighty God, and that all Muslims should follow the timeless guidance of the Qur’an. But our country protects equality and the freedoms of speech and religion for all Americans. When Muslims are targeted because of our faith, it’s an assault on those values and on the country I love.


I’m a Muslim, not a terrorist. So why did the NYPD spy on me for years? - The Washington Post

@waz @Slav Defence @Arsalan @ajpirzada @nair @Ammara Chaudhry
 
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A government who is providing their citizens natural, civil, political and social rights has a complete right to monitor someone for state's security... According to the article, they never bothered the writer directly, were only dubious of something, when they were satisfied, they stopped following author... So what is the problem in this, keeping the current scenario of the world in mind... Author cooperated to police, that was a good thing, and the matter solved.

It is state only who enforces and preserves rights of citizens, thus state has authority to do such things.
 
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I do not have any issue if FBI or CIA spy on my activities, because I do not have any malicious intent to hide. Why is he so uptight and uncomfortable about it?
 
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going by his looks one imagines that nypd was doing research on behalf of cia - on how best to use him in usa government's anti-dictator noble efforts in syria. :lol:

his trial of misery has been carried by "washington post"... compare wp's articles on syria. ;)
 
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While its not right
It would be stupid not to take all precautions
 
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Because he is not a terrorist, but some of those he influences and motivates are?
 
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Muslims in USA need to stop overacting on this fear now. Had enough of it already and need to start communicating about it.

Rather getting agitated, go to NYPD and talk about it. Why not going for 'citizen's watch'? Set this up in mosques. Things are not as bad as media want to portrait. Start developing a good relation with your community and NYPD. Since I'm in New York and the mosques around me have very good relations with their communities and police officers. Why? Because they talk and invite them to mosques and let them hear what they say. Just stop getting over sensitive on this matter anymore and start standing up.
As an American it is our civic duty to be vigilant for our fellow citizens.
 
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Can't blame them for being cautious after losing 3000 lives in a single act of terror. As Imran said, better safe than sorry, cannot really say where a terrorist is lurking unless the authorities keep looking and keep digging.
 
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I don't know why Muslims in the west constantly whine about this. Let's say the government spies on 100 Muslims, and only 1 of them turned out to be a terrorist, and the government stops him before he blows something up. Isn't that good? What have the 99 other Muslims lost?
 
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To ascertain a person is not a terrorist we need to check and monitor. Hence the spying.

Also, look at the profiles of american citizens or european citizens or any other domestic terrorists caught. If the profile correlates, then CIA better spy you. Better safe than sorry !

Spying solely on the basis of religion is wrong though !
 
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If Muslims don't wanna cry foul after a terrorist attack then better help the authorities to deny it beforehand. Simple.
 
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Mohammad Elshinawy (Duncan Kendall for The Washington Post)

A couple of weeks after I began lecturing on Islam at New York City mosques, something strange happened. Acquaintances and congregants told me they’d been approached by law enforcement officers, who asked about me and my talks. Soon after, I began to notice suspicious people in the audiences. One gentleman stood out — he was the most frequent attendee, but he regularly fell asleep while I spoke.

It was 2003. I was a student at Brooklyn College, studying English literature. I’d grown up in New York and loved the city. But I’d also seen the way Muslims were discriminated against, particularly after Sept. 11, 2001. In the year after the attacks, hate crimes spiked tenfold. I wanted to encourage Muslims to stay strong in their faith in spite of these assaults. I spoke on theology and visiting the sick, on skepticism and the sinful pursuit of instant gratification, on the gravity of injustice and the vastness of God’s mercy.

I wasn’t doing anything wrong. I consistently rejected violence and terrorism in my lectures. Still, for a decade, I felt like I was under surveillance, pursued by shadowy law enforcement officials seeking out a crime that didn’t exist.

In 2013, my fears were confirmed. I found out from an Associated Press investigation that I was a victim of the New York Police Department’s aggressive surveillance of Muslims. According to news articles, after 9/11 the NYPD began to track large swaths of us. Officers secretly labeled entire mosques as terrorist organizations, then spied on imams and recorded sermons. The department conducted at least a dozen of these “terrorism enterprise investigations” since 2001, often without specific evidence of criminal wrongdoing and minimal oversight from judges. No charges were ever brought as a result of the activities of the so-called “demographics” unit.

Entire congregations were targeted. Entire Muslim communities — from bookstores to restaurants — were monitored. Those practices turned innocent people into suspects, making us feel isolated and afraid of the police. Because of the NYPD’s widespread use of informants, we stopped trusting our neighbors as well.

Though I’d suspected that local cops were spying on innocent Muslims, the extent of their surveillance surpassed even my worst fears. The police had been following me everywhere, according to documents unearthed in the investigation. Once, a man came to my home claiming that he would do anything for a certain Egyptian delicacy his late mother had made for him years prior. Others in the community warned me later that he’d been asking about me. An informant even infiltrated my wedding, videotaping everyone who attended. My wife and I had been surveilled while shopping for rings earlier that day, according to internal police documents. “We have nothing on the lucky bride at this time but hopefully will learn about her at the service,” one NYPD lieutenant wrote in a report about me that was uncovered by the Associated Press.

After the Associated Press revelations, I wasn’t just uneasy. I was terrified. I felt like I lived in a house without walls, vulnerable to police scrutiny all the time. I was constantly anxious about what I said and whom I talked to. I feared for my wife as well. I suspected those around me, including friends and family. People from outside our community — they appeared to be undercover officers or informants — were asking about me. Friends and colleagues distanced themselves out of fear that they, too, would be swept up in the NYPD’s net.

After 2013, I began creating mental filters through which to run my speech in sermons and among my peers holding back anything that could be seen as controversial. In my lectures, I played down Islamic values of valor and heroism, worrying that informants would assume, incorrectly, that I was promoting aggression or violence. I hesitated before publicly discussing the devastation faced by innocent civilians in the Muslim world, in case someone distorted my lessons on empathy as something “anti-American.”

To justify its spying, the NYPD used my charity work against me, suggesting that the camping trips I’d organized for low-income children and teens whom I’d mostly met through my talks at mosques was actually a military exercise. In truth, during those weekends, we simply played basketball, ran obstacle courses and swam in races. The police accused me of downloading the most extreme parts of radical clerics’ talks. In fact, I listened to a wide range of speakers in preparation for my lectures. The police pointed to suspicions about my father, saying he was a close associate of Omar Abdel Rahman, who was convicted of aiding in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. I was a child at the time, and my father was never charged with any crimes. And the NYPD accused me of radicalizing members of my mosque whom I’d never met.

The police kept this investigation up for years, long after the FBI determined that I wasn’t a threat, according to the Associated Press.

Now, I’m hopeful that those difficult years have ended. In June 2013, I joined a lawsuit against the NYPD’s expansive surveillance targeting New York’s Muslims. Last month, the NYPD settled that case with me and five other plaintiffs. The department agreed to a number of important safeguards on police practices, including a ban on investigations that stem mainly from religion, race or ethnicity. The settlement, subject to final approval by the court, would also impose reforms to prevent years-long, open-ended surveillance. And it would install a civilian monitor to act as a check on any investigation relating to political or religious activities.

I don’t expect my fellow citizens to agree with all of my views, like my conviction that Islam is the divine truth revealed from Almighty God, and that all Muslims should follow the timeless guidance of the Qur’an. But our country protects equality and the freedoms of speech and religion for all Americans. When Muslims are targeted because of our faith, it’s an assault on those values and on the country I love.


I’m a Muslim, not a terrorist. So why did the NYPD spy on me for years? - The Washington Post

@waz @Slav Defence @Arsalan @ajpirzada @nair @Ammara Chaudhry

Who is to blame?

I seen it myself. I am being an Indian called with names . Names are ? pa ki , Taliban go to ur country.

And who called it? Was a little kid in a cycle. May be in his 12s .

One time I met this group of teenagers drunk in a subway train. They tried to beat me up as they thought am a Muslim and a Pakistani. But once they came to know that am an Indian they changed their tone and said . ' Big up' . And there were one instance. Two drunk grown white guys tried to harm me .I was drunk too. Went with my colleges nearly 20 people being Punjabis Tamil and north east ... I came out a night club has I was so hungry and jumped into this night burger stand just opposite. Two girls came to me and asked for cigarette smoke . I gave . They sat next to me after lil conversation and want me to take them into near by club then to my room . these two drunk guys watching this cake closer to me and started to tease those girls .Like Why the f$#@ they can date with an Indian or a ****. As one chap came closer to punch me I gave him the punch which he will never forget. And to his friend who try to do the same . Later it became like a gang war as one of my friend say these and called called all my friends . this is how crazy its to be in UK or in Europe. Later police filed complained as racist attack later I was forced to back off from the case .

This is how racism survives in Europe as we speak . But because of some Pakistanis who take radical Islam as their way of living other peace full Asians brown people are being harased.

So who do you blame for this ?

Well as far as I know its because of Muslims ... No one else. So be pissed off.

To ascertain a person is not a terrorist we need to check and monitor. Hence the spying.

Also, look at the profiles of american citizens or european citizens or any other domestic terrorists caught. If the profile correlates, then CIA better spy you. Better safe than sorry !

Spying solely on the basis of religion is wrong though !

Will the author take full responsibility of what many other Muslims are doing ?
 
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I'm more touched by the story of common racism by Ind4ever above that awoke so-so memories
than by the plight of the guy in article to be honest.

And if you are hassled by law enforcement, there are courts for that! CIA or homeland sec can by-pass
some basic rights to fight terrorism but NYPD can be sued for harassment ... if you have a case that is!

Peace out, Tay.
 
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I do not have any issue if FBI or CIA spy on my activities, because I do not have any malicious intent to hide. Why is he so uptight and uncomfortable about it?

Far from supporting islamists here, but CIA and FBI don't really need an issue to create problems. Check their history.
 
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