I'm A Dalit But I Think It's Wrong To Blame The BJP For The Una Assault

[Bitter Melon]

Lol z bootlicker .... don't quote me your filthy language...




You idiot Ramvilas paswan elevated recently go back and check..... mind your filthy language... don't be an... when am giving my response without calling you an asshole...

Rice convert Padre. How many bags of rice did you convert for?

 

[danger007]

Rice convert Padre. How many bags of rice did you convert for?

How many cents you earned today... get into ignore list moron.. you have pathetic attitude.. you just jumped into conversation where am talking about Dalits problems... not subjected to particular party... you assumed your self am blaming BJP. How pathetic you are.. get a life..

 

[danger007]

and ppl still mock the dalits that they are the creamy layer. if this is creamy layer, then let's switch sides (sans the killings)

And check the baboons posts... do you find anything offensive against BJP in my post? They just jumped into discussion without knowledge of what am discussing...

 

[DesiGuy1403]

I talked to a few of the Cow protection groups.
Their only concern is the protection of live cows. Their main area of work is the illegal transportation of cows between areas, which they aim to curb.

They are aware of what happens after the natural death of a cow or it's progeny and are surprised at the attacks on Dalits.

It looks to me either a case of rabid stupid guy doing nasty stuff or worse a political move towards the coming elections.

In fact this person informed me of the numerous cow protectors who died at the hands of illegal Cow traders. The latest being the one from Karnataka.

BJP is ill advised to take it lying down. They should denounce these people and expose them immediately.

 

[danger007]

@baajey @egodoc222 @Joe Shearer

http://m.indiatoday.in/story/gujara...dia-today-operation-untouchable/1/730365.html


Read this article, there is video as well..

@ashok321 try to post the video ...

 

[Joe Shearer]

How many cents you earned today... get into ignore list moron.. you have pathetic attitude.. you just jumped into conversation where am talking about Dalits problems... not subjected to particular party... you assumed your self am blaming BJP. How pathetic you are.. get a life..

Please stop the abuse.

 

[ashok321]

@baajey @egodoc222 @Joe Shearer

http://m.indiatoday.in/story/gujara...dia-today-operation-untouchable/1/730365.html


Read this article, there is video as well..

@ashok321 try to post the video ...

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/video/...le-doors-remain-shut-for-dalits/1/730302.html

 

[danger007]

Please stop the abuse.

I don't need to abuse anyone.. im in this forum as an Individual rather than a representative to particular party ... My words are just reflection.. If they target me, regardless of what am saying and with whom ... My response would be in similar tone.. I hope you can verify my discussion with other members in this thread... completely unrelated to the present Govt.. but those cult ...

 

[Joe Shearer]

I don't need to abuse anyone.. im in this forum as an Individual rather than a representative to particular party ... My words are just reflection.. If they target me, regardless of what am saying and with whom ... My response would be in similar tone.. I hope you can verify my discussion with other members in this thread... completely unrelated to the present Govt.. but those cult ...

Just report abuse and move on.

 

[baajey]

@baajey @egodoc222 @Joe Shearer

http://m.indiatoday.in/story/gujara...dia-today-operation-untouchable/1/730365.html


Read this article, there is video as well..

@ashok321 try to post the video ...

one similar video was "india untouched". it opened my eyes. i thought india was moving on. but it isnt. its still stuck in its ancient practices of superior-inferior.
the custodians of hindu faith come out in full voice, defending hindutva ; while the on ground custodians (priests) are defending their right to "feel superior" while making some sections exactly the opposite. and these same morons take no time in questioning other religions about morality n what not.
however, i m very optimistic that our current generation and the younger generations to come, will only tighten the noose around caste based social discrimination.

 

[danger007]

one similar video was "india untouched". it opened my eyes. i thought india was moving on. but it isnt. its still stuck in its ancient practices of superior-inferior.
the custodians of hindu faith come out in full voice, defending hindutva ; while the on ground custodians (priests) are defending their right to "feel superior" while making some sections exactly the opposite. and these same morons take no time in questioning other religions about morality n what not.
however, i m very optimistic that our current generation and the younger generations to come, will only tighten the noose around caste based social discrimination.

If you noticed the younger guys under elders influence, thinking and acting like elders... but troll brigade here, don't mind about these guys and their struggle... they believe no problem exists and if some news surfaced, they talk like it was staged ... this is the reason for the Reservation. ..

 

[baajey]

If you noticed the younger guys under elders influence, thinking and acting like elders... but troll brigade here, don't mind about these guys and their struggle... they believe no problem exists and if some news surfaced, they talk like it was staged ... this is the reason for the Reservation. ..

can you really blame them? think about it. they do not commit crimes against dalits, but get sidelined due to reservation system. hence they are bound to get agitated.
but i believe, those individuals (who lose their seats to sc/st s) are way less than what is portrayed in the mainstream media. most of the agitators are hopeless idiots and cant pass any exam without cheating.
anyhow, the type u mentioned, will always remain. even if they understand the plight of the lowest of the lows, they would turn a blind eye, bcoz, otherwise they would have to relinquish their "illegitimate" power gained by their ancestors through less than legitimate means.

 

[danger007]

can you really blame them? think about it. they do not commit crimes against dalits, but get sidelined due to reservation system. hence they are bound to get agitated.
but i believe, those individuals (who lose their seats to sc/st s) are way less than what is portrayed in the mainstream media. most of the agitators are hopeless idiots and cant pass any exam without cheating.
anyhow, the type u mentioned, will always remain. even if they understand the plight of the lowest of the lows, they would turn a blind eye, bcoz, otherwise they would have to relinquish their "illegitimate" power gained by their ancestors through less than legitimate means.

No, you don't get my point.. am not talking about agitators.. but some people in here, thinks these protests, videos that surfaced are staged to demean Current govt... not willing to accept challenges exists in our country... We can improve only and only, if we are willing to engage social issues in Broadway.. this is not subjected to any party, it exists in way before these pol parties born... for an instance if we take Kapu agitation- these guys are very influential in Andhra, being economically, socially developed, they started demanding reservation.. they burn a train cars during agitation... In colleges the level of their dominance is high as any other... yet they are demanding for reservation...

 

[baajey]

No, you don't get my point.. am not talking about agitators.. but some people in here, thinks these protests, videos that surfaced are staged to demean Current govt... not willing to accept challenges exists in our country... We can improve only and only, if we are willing to engage social issues in Broadway.. this is not subjected to any party, it exists in way before these pol parties born... for an instance if we take Kapu agitation- these guys are very influential in Andhra, being economically, socially developed, they started demanding reservation.. they burn a train cars during agitation... In colleges the level of their dominance is high as any other... yet they are demanding for reservation...

well, i got u now.
see, nobody is going to fight on behalf of us. historically speaking, its us who has fought for them, bled for them, toiled for them under the sun, starved for them so that they can lead their pampered lives. so expecting them to bring about the change is being deliverately foolish.
i believe that revolutions, in their true nature, demand blood. and i m not interested in giving my blood. what next ? a period of great uncertainity, bloodshed and mistrust followed by freedom from caste boundaries. equality shall be true and not limited to the chapters of our constitution.
of course, the above is a fantasy in todays world, but remains a solution nonetheless.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

With the unfortunate suicide of Rohith Vemula in Hyderabad Central University, there has been a build-up of a national-level narrative that the government at the Centre is lopsided in its approach towards the issues and concerns of the Dalit community. Politics, as they say, is an art of constructing and manipulating identities for short-term electoral benefits and long-term ideological advantages.


History is witness to the slow but steady progress that Dalits have made... Sometimes, critics ignore this perspective, preferring to focus on Dalits as victims.
I claim no legitimacy whatsoever to speak on the behalf of the Dalit community and the issues concerning the deprived segment at large. But as a Dalit youth myself, I do wish to share a perspective resonating from my day to day experiences. First off, the stigma of caste is difficult to erase and we have a long way to go even though benefits from affirmative action in the Constitution have lifted thousands of families from penury to a dignified life. According to a report published by National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) in 2010 on the Prevention of Atrocities against Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribes, "a crime is committed against a Dalit once in every 18 minutes. Every day, on average, three Dalit women are raped, two Dalits murdered, and two Dalit houses burnt." This is a comprehensive report compiled by the NHRC, which further details categories of exclusion and different forms of discrimination. The report also highlights the fact that Dalits do not have access to community sources of water and other public services on account of the scourge of "untouchability" that persists in society despite the fact that it was abolished in 1956 and is unlawful today.


However, it is important to remember that such atrocities are not new. They have existed across different political regimes. The Indian National Congress, for example, will have no place to hide if a post-independence analysis on atrocities on Dalits is done. Therefore, a pragmatic approach to integration lies in divorcing the atrocities committed against Dalits with the rule of any particular political party.


I too was disturbed after witnessing the violence and hatred in the [Una] video. Yet, I don't want to succumb to hate and distrust myself.
History is witness to the slow but steady progress that Dalits have made in various spheres of life. Sometimes, critics ignore this perspective, preferring to focus on Dalits as victims. The nation has seen a Dalit President (KR Narayanan), a Dalit Deputy Prime Minister (Babu Jagjivan Ram), a Dalit Lok Sabha speaker (G.M.C Balyogi) and scores of Dalit vice-chancellors, professors, thinkers, bureaucrats, leaders and intellectuals. If we delve deeper, we will find that our great history is filled with examples of heroes from disadvantaged backgrounds pivoting the course of time to preserve and perpetuate our civilizational core. Dalit saint Veda Vyasa (who belonged to the "lowly" fisherman caste) and Dr. B.R. Ambedkar, for instance, were two intellectual giants who produced documents that would guide the future of our civilization in the form of Mahabharata and the Constitution of India respectively.


Now to Una, Gujarat, where some Dalit youth were publicly stripped and beaten, allegedly for skinning a cow. This act of vigilantism is an unhealthy indicator for an effective parliamentary democracy like ours. No one has the right to take the law into their own hands. The fact that the entire incident was recorded reflects the audacity of the perpetrators of violence. It needs to be widely condemned and discouraged in strictest of terms.

I have spoken to people on the ground in Gujarat. They insist that the "Gau Raksha Dal" that perpetrated the attack has no formal association with any other organization or ideology. Instead, they are just a group of miscreants notorious for extortion and creating public disorder. The authorities have acted and put those responsible behind bars. The people living in and around Una have initiated a social boycott of the men involved. Cutting across caste lines, people are happy on the action being taken by the administration against the accused.

As a Dalit youth today, I want a prosperous nation, an assertive India in the global landscape. That is possible only through integration and not confrontation. Period.
There is always an alternate perspective to anything and everything in life. I too was disturbed after witnessing the inhumane degree of violence and hatred in the video. Yet, I don't want to succumb to hate and distrust myself. To paraphrase Albert Einstein, peace is not merely absence of violence but presence of justice. And I see hope, I sense optimism. I see opportunity when I see Dalits arming themselves with education and seeking representation in industry, politics, academics, theatre and other important areas. For me, Milind Kamble who fought social barriers and created DICCI (Dalit Indian Chamber of Commerce and Industry), a platform for cultivating Dalit entrepreneurs is an inspiration. I take inspiration from Arjun Meghwal who rose from being a telephone operator to a minister of finance in the union cabinet. I take inspiration from Tina Dabi, the first Dalit woman to top the UPSC examination. I take inspiration from moviemakers such as Pa. Ranjith who use movies such as Kabali as a vehicle to convey the socio-political message of Dalit-led empowerment. Trust me, as a Dalit youth today, I want a prosperous nation, an assertive India in the global landscape. That is possible only through integration and not confrontation. Period.

http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2016/0...e-the-bjp-for-the-una/?utm_hp_ref=in-homepage

Are you a dalit, but at the same time you are human, you are citizens of India.

You someone's dignity, no one has the right to trample.

All men are created equal. Those who try to put people into classes, and maintain their privileges.

Will eventually die of justice.

Just report abuse and move on.

Sir, foreigners living in China a total of 850000 people, including 50000 indians living in China. In Mr Modi's prime minister during a visit to Shanghai, there are more than four thousand Indian nationals to meet.

I'm very sorry, We have a discussion, I forgot to tell you that.

I am not sure what Indian people choose to live in China。

Maybe... China has no caste system?