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Illusion of victory: In the eyes of the media (September 1965)

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Most neutral historians agree that the 1965 India-Pakistan war ended in a stalemate, yet both countries today claim to have delivered a crushing defeat on the other side.

In the era before most South Asian newspapers could afford embedded reporting, media outlets in both countries relied mainly on official statements in their reporting on war. The way the media on both sides reported on the 1965 war itself and the events than followed made it possible for establishments of both countries to interpret conclusions of the war according to their own choice.

Archives of the Indian media kept by the media wing of the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), which itself was the only source of information for the Pakistani media, show that grossly exaggerated claims of military success were made by the Indian military and reported in India.

“Our valiant forces have set up a civil administration in Lahore after capturing the railway station, airport, Mughalpura, an ordinance factory …. Civilised attitude of our solders wins hearts of Lahoris,” reads headline of an Indian newspaper. “Lahore captured: Our forces are moving into Kasur,” was another headline, complete with many side stories to substantiate such claims. Indian forces never entered the city of Lahore.

The Pakistani side also employed different tools. Shortly before the war broke out, Radio Sada-e-Kashmir, set up as ‘revolutionary radio’, was reporting stories of ‘audacious attacks’ by Kashmiri separatists on the Indian military, some of which carried over to the mainstream Pakistani media. In its August 11, 1965 edition, Dawn ran the headline: “Patriots cut Srinagar-Jammu Road”.

Reporting a night raid, quoting Radio Sada-e-Kashmir, the paper said separatists also destroyed nine bridges on this main road that linked the summer capital Jammu with Srinagar and the Kashmir Vale. The paper also published a map showing various other important road links from across the 1948 ceasefire line supposedly under the control of the ‘revolutionary council’ that had been set up as a parallel government to the Indian administration in Kashmir.

In reality, Pakistan’s covert operation – codenamed ‘Gibraltar’ – did not achieve all the objectives, prompting another operation, named Grand Slam, to be launched on September 1, 1965. Pakistani Army conducted the second operation to capture Aknor, a town in Jammu, to sever communication supplies to Srinagar, something Sada-e-Kashmir had claimed already happened.

In this second major operation, both sides used regular forces and heavy war machinery including tanks. Pakistan claims that before their second operation, the freedom fighters on the Indian side of the ceasefire line were fighting against Indian forces. However, India claims Pakistan had entered more than 30,000 troops into the Indian side in the guise of locals.

Many historians say that Pakistan had launched Gibraltar with a strong belief that it would stir a mass uprising by local Kashmiris against Indian occupation. The expected results were not achieved, they say. However, in desperation to ease mounting pressure by Pakistani forces on the Kashmir front, India attacked Pakistan and crossed the international border on September 6 at three points, which marked official beginning of the 1965 war.

The war ended on September 22 as the result of the Tashkent accord, brokered by the Soviet Union and signed by President Ayub Khan and then Indian Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Shashtri. Both sides agreed to withdraw to pre-August 1965 boundaries by February 25, 1966.

Both sides still claim that they gave a crushing blow inflicting heavy casualties to the other side and won the war. However, most independent war historians dispute claims of the two sides and say it was a draw and none of the two was ultimate winner in the battlefield.

Link : Illusion of victory: In the eyes of the media - The Express Tribune
 
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Most neutral historians agree that the 1965 India-Pakistan war ended in a stalemate, yet both countries today claim to have delivered a crushing defeat on the other side.

In the era before most South Asian newspapers could afford embedded reporting, media outlets in both countries relied mainly on official statements in their reporting on war. The way the media on both sides reported on the 1965 war itself and the events than followed made it possible for establishments of both countries to interpret conclusions of the war according to their own choice.

Archives of the Indian media kept by the media wing of the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), which itself was the only source of information for the Pakistani media, show that grossly exaggerated claims of military success were made by the Indian military and reported in India.

“Our valiant forces have set up a civil administration in Lahore after capturing the railway station, airport, Mughalpura, an ordinance factory …. Civilised attitude of our solders wins hearts of Lahoris,” reads headline of an Indian newspaper. “Lahore captured: Our forces are moving into Kasur,” was another headline, complete with many side stories to substantiate such claims. Indian forces never entered the city of Lahore.

The Pakistani side also employed different tools. Shortly before the war broke out, Radio Sada-e-Kashmir, set up as ‘revolutionary radio’, was reporting stories of ‘audacious attacks’ by Kashmiri separatists on the Indian military, some of which carried over to the mainstream Pakistani media. In its August 11, 1965 edition, Dawn ran the headline: “Patriots cut Srinagar-Jammu Road”.

Reporting a night raid, quoting Radio Sada-e-Kashmir, the paper said separatists also destroyed nine bridges on this main road that linked the summer capital Jammu with Srinagar and the Kashmir Vale. The paper also published a map showing various other important road links from across the 1948 ceasefire line supposedly under the control of the ‘revolutionary council’ that had been set up as a parallel government to the Indian administration in Kashmir.

In reality, Pakistan’s covert operation – codenamed ‘Gibraltar’ – did not achieve all the objectives, prompting another operation, named Grand Slam, to be launched on September 1, 1965. Pakistani Army conducted the second operation to capture Aknor, a town in Jammu, to sever communication supplies to Srinagar, something Sada-e-Kashmir had claimed already happened.

In this second major operation, both sides used regular forces and heavy war machinery including tanks. Pakistan claims that before their second operation, the freedom fighters on the Indian side of the ceasefire line were fighting against Indian forces. However, India claims Pakistan had entered more than 30,000 troops into the Indian side in the guise of locals.

Many historians say that Pakistan had launched Gibraltar with a strong belief that it would stir a mass uprising by local Kashmiris against Indian occupation. The expected results were not achieved, they say. However, in desperation to ease mounting pressure by Pakistani forces on the Kashmir front, India attacked Pakistan and crossed the international border on September 6 at three points, which marked official beginning of the 1965 war.

The war ended on September 22 as the result of the Tashkent accord, brokered by the Soviet Union and signed by President Ayub Khan and then Indian Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Shashtri. Both sides agreed to withdraw to pre-August 1965 boundaries by February 25, 1966.

Both sides still claim that they gave a crushing blow inflicting heavy casualties to the other side and won the war. However, most independent war historians dispute claims of the two sides and say it was a draw and none of the two was ultimate winner in the battlefield.

Link : Illusion of victory: In the eyes of the media - The Express Tribune

the land war was stalemate, but in the air, PAF dominated....... so in air it can be termed pakistan's victory.
 
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INDIA NEVER CAPTURED LAHORE its main aim after crossing the border in the 22 days of war.

That itself is a cause of celebration. HENCE THE DEFENCE DAY 6TH SEPTEMBER.
 
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Does indians celebrate victory of 1965 war??
 
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Indian forces never entered the city of Lahore.
not city, but the police station was captured by indian forces.
Brig.Hari_Singh_at_Barkee_Capture.jpg

the land war was stalemate, but in the air, PAF dominated....... so in air it can be termed pakistan's victory.
really:o:
Air incapability, Air denial, Air parity, Air superiority, Air supremacy, which one PAF successfully done over indian air space??? none. of them.
leave indian air space, PAF was unable to attain air denial over their own air space. pakistan was under constant attack by indian AF till the end of the war.
 
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not city, but the police station was captured by indian forces.
Brig.Hari_Singh_at_Barkee_Capture.jpg

That's police station Barkee. Barkee village is part of Lahore District and not Lahore City. All the area up to the international border of Wahga is part of Lahore district and not Lahore city.

You cross international border and put one step into Pakistani territory and you are in Lahore district.

What @ice_man is true. Indians failed to capture Lahore. Just like Sialkot. Despite both these cities are located extremely close to international border. :)
 
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not city, but the police station was captured by indian forces.
Brig.Hari_Singh_at_Barkee_Capture.jpg


really:o:
Air incapability, Air denial, Air parity, Air superiority, Air supremacy, which one PAF successfully done over indian air space??? none. of them.
leave indian air space, PAF was unable to attain air denial over their own air space. pakistan was under constant attack by indian AF till the end of the war.

22days and you captured barkee police station. what an achievement. you know barkee is just 11 kilometers from the border.

from amritsar to Lahore is 50 kilometers.

22 days and this is how far you got?

as for airforce we bombed Pathankot,ambala bases.
 
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That's police station Barkee. Barkee village is part of Lahore District and not Lahore City. All the area up to the international border of Wahga is part of Lahore district and not Lahore city.
did you read what i had written above the pics??
22days and you captured barkee police station. what an achievement. you know barkee is just 11 kilometers from the border.

from amritsar to Lahore is 50 kilometers.

22 days and this is how far you got?

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lol... who attacked 1st? india??
your unprofessional pakistan army attacked kashmir, in retaliation india attacked panjab. that is all.
what pakistan army gain in a well prepared war in kashmir?? a complete failure.
all those place pakistan captured also was border villages in kashmir.

as for air force. pakistan air force failed to achieve air superiority even after they had element of surprise in attacking Indian air bases.
 
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INDIA NEVER CAPTURED LAHORE its main aim after crossing the border in the 22 days of war.

That itself is a cause of celebration. HENCE THE DEFENCE DAY 6TH SEPTEMBER.

Pakistan started the war, with the sole objective of capturing Kashmir, it failed miserably. It was a loss for Pakistan.
 
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lol... who attacked 1st? india??
your unprofessional pakistan army attacked kashmir, in retaliation india attacked panjab. that is all.
what pakistan army gain in a well prepared war in kashmir?? a complete failure.
all those place pakistan captured also was border villages in kashmir.

as for air force. pakistan air force failed to achieve air superiority even after they had element of surprise in attacking Indian air bases.

our army crossed the LoC which is not a fixed border as it is disputed territory.

by crossing punjab which is a clear border you did initiate the war with the AIM OF CAPTURING LAHORE.

in that you failed.
 
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did you read what i had written above the pics??

lol... who attacked 1st? india??
your unprofessional pakistan army attacked kashmir, in retaliation india attacked panjab. that is all.
what pakistan army gain in a well prepared war in kashmir?? a complete failure.
all those place pakistan captured also was border villages in kashmir.

as for air force. pakistan air force failed to achieve air superiority even after they had element of surprise in attacking Indian air bases.
Give it a rest mate, for fifty years, India has been l;licking it's wounds and living under the humility of being beaten by a much smaller nation, now since Modi has come to power, your history is being re-written again, like Indians were flying 5000 years earlier and all that nonsense, now after sulking for the last 50 years, Indians have suddenly realised to celebrate 1965 war. :laugh:
As for the air superiority, even for 1971, IAF admitted that most air battles took place over India......what does that tell you. !!!
 
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Pakistan started the war, with the sole objecting of capturing Kashmir, it failed miserably It was a loss for Pakistan.

Too many Pakistanis think war is like a boxing match, that you can see how many points you scored. That's how they look at the 1965 war, even the Kargil war where they go on & on about some peak they hold. Like they fought the war for that.....
 
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our army crossed the LoC which is not a fixed border as it is disputed territory.

by crossing punjab which is a clear border you did initiate the war with the AIM OF CAPTURING LAHORE.

in that you failed.

The kargil Conflict is called a War - even by Pak posters.

This involved crossing the LC by Pak troops.

Who started this Kargil war ? .. Pakistan

Howcome when Pak did the same thing in 65 you choose to ignore it & do not accept the fact that Pak started the war !!
 
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