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[Hamza913]

It's against forum rules?

Pfft. Snitch.

 

[Valar.]

Pfft. Snitch.

Just being a responsible citizen of PDF town.. Nothing personal...

 

[Hamza913]

Just being a responsible citizen of PDF town.. Nothing personal...

Anyway, back to the topic, why would you (as an apostate) want to live in a country that was founded on the basis of Islam?

 

[Valar.]

Anyway, back to the topic, why would you (as an apostate) want to live in a country that was founded on the basis of Islam?

Because the apostate was born here?

 

[Hamza913]

Because the apostate was born here?

Right, but you do realise the majority of the people in Pakistan would want you dead, right? And that Pakistan was founded upon principles antithetical to your own?

 

[Valar.]

Right, but you do realise the majority of the people in Pakistan would want you dead, right?

Why?

 

[Hamza913]

Why?

Because according to most Pakistanis, apostates deserve the death penalty.

 

[Valar.]

Because according to most Pakistanis, apostates deserve the death penalty.

Why?

A person can become Qadiayani in Pakistan which is by state declared as leaving Islam but a person can't just become an apostate and don't follow any religion?

 

[Hamza913]

Why?

A person can become Qadiayani in Pakistan which is by state declared as leaving Islam but a person can't just become an apostate and don't follow any religion?

Why is irrelevant, most Pakistanis feel this way, so I'll ask you again, why do you want to live with people who want your blood?

 

[Valar.]

Why is irrelevant, most Pakistanis feel this way, so I'll ask you again, why do you want to live with people who want your blood?

Why is relevant here.
An apostate was born here.
He is loyal to his homeland.
There are already Non Muslims here.
He just don't wanna follow religion.
So why people want him dead? When is not harming them in any way but infact is more loyal to them and is their well wisher?

 

[Hamza913]

Why is relevant here.
An apostate was born here.
He is loyal to his homeland.
There are already Non Muslims here.
He just don't wanna follow religion.
So why people want him dead? When is not harming them in any way but infact is more loyal to them and is their well wisher?

Why is not relevant, because it won't change people's mind. There's a reason nobody publicly denounces Islam in Pakistan, and if they do, they get killed.

Anyway, I'll answer your question:

Pakistan was founded on the basis of Islam, denouncing it is treason, therefore, if you wish to be an apostate, you must either keep quiet, leave, or face the consequences for treason (just like you would in any other country).

Non-Muslims here are different, they obey the law and were never Muslim to begin with, they cannot commit this treason unless they become Muslim, and then leave the faith.

You are not loyal, this country was founded upon Islam. How can you be loyal to a country based upon Islam when you denounced the ideology?

 

[Valar.]

Why is not relevant, because it won't change people's mind. There's a reason nobody publicly denounces Islam in Pakistan, and if they do, they get killed.

Anyway, I'll answer your question:

Pakistan was founded on the basis of Islam, denouncing it is treason, therefore, if you wish to be an apostate, you must either keep quiet, leave, or face the consequences for treason (just like you would in any other country).

Non-Muslims here are different, they obey the law and were never Muslim to begin with, they cannot commit this treason unless they become Muslim, and then leave the faith.

You are not loyal, this country was founded upon Islam. How can you be loyal to a country based upon Islam when you denounced the ideology?

1. Who are people to want me dead? What about the state?

2. Just because somebody was born in Pakistan to Muslim parents, does it mean he must follow his parents' religion? What about 'no compulsion in religion'? Apostate can also obey the law just like Non Muslims, no?
What kinda stupid logic is that an apostate can't be loyal to Pakistan?

3. You didn't answer the question about Qadiayanis.

 

[Champion_Usmani]

 

[Hamza913]

1. Who are people to want me dead? What about the state?

2. Just because somebody was born in Pakistan to Muslim parents, does it mean he must follow his parents' religion? What about 'no compulsion in religion'? Apostate can also obey the law just like Non Muslims, no?
What kinda stupid logic is that an apostate can't be loyal to Pakistan?

3. You didn't answer the question about Qadiayanis.

1. Most of Pakistan, look at the polls.

2. Because Pakistan was founded upon Islam, and you literally denounced it. You've denounced the state ideology, that's treason.

3. Someone who converts to Qadianism counts as an apostate, unless they were not Muslim in the first place.

 

[Valar.]

1. Most of Pakistan, look at the polls.

2. Because Pakistan was founded upon Islam, and you literally denounced it. You've denounced the state ideology, that's treason.

3. Someone who converts to Qadianism counts as an apostate, unless they were not Muslim in the first place.

1. What poll? People who have same mentality as you?

2. I wasn't born then. What's my fault in it that I was born here?

3. Are Qadianis and Athiest/Agnostics punishable by death in Pakistani law? Yes or No?