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Kabul factory owners announce support for returning refugees​


The Frontier Post

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KABUL (TOLOnews): The Kabul Pul-e-Charkhi Industry Association has announced its support for the Afghan migrants deported from Pakistan.

The general head of the association said that for the return of immigrants, all the unions of manufacturing factories in the country are ready to recruit workers from among the immigrants.

‘It’s not the responsibility of the Islamic Emirate, it is also our responsibility to help our people and provide work for them and solve their challenges,” said the head of the association, Abdul Jabar Safai.

“The big challenge that we — the government and refugees face — is lack of work,” said Shaber Bashiri, an official of the association. Some officials of the Association of Industrialists still want the Islamic Emirate to provide the necessary facilities inside the country for the immigrants who have manufacturing factories in Pakistan.

“Those of our businessmen and industrialists who have now invested in Pakistan and have Pakistani citizenship, their process will continue, it is time for them to transfer their investment to the country,” said Abdul Baseer Turki, an official of the association.

“For those of our brothers who suffered and worked in the neighboring countries until today, and their properties and money were taken from them today, and they are forcibly sent to Afghanistan empty-handed, we call on our industrialists to help them,” said Najibullah Sediqi, deputy of the association.

While the Islamic Emirate talked about the efforts to help and settle the emigrants deported from Pakistan in their own areas, according to published statistics, nearly 200,000 emigrants have been deported from Pakistan and many of them complain about their difficult living conditions.
 
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Some afghans are going to get revenge becuase pak corrupt police stole their houses and items even though some of these guys had nadra cards.

I have little sympathy . It's sufficient compensation for living in our country. @Binglo71 still placing your bets on Afghanistan? When are your people leaving our country? That guy is probably busy giving rickshaw rides in Australia.
 
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Kabul factory owners announce support for returning refugees​


The Frontier Post

afg-3-4-810x544.jpg


KABUL (TOLOnews): The Kabul Pul-e-Charkhi Industry Association has announced its support for the Afghan migrants deported from Pakistan.

The general head of the association said that for the return of immigrants, all the unions of manufacturing factories in the country are ready to recruit workers from among the immigrants.

‘It’s not the responsibility of the Islamic Emirate, it is also our responsibility to help our people and provide work for them and solve their challenges,” said the head of the association, Abdul Jabar Safai.

“The big challenge that we — the government and refugees face — is lack of work,” said Shaber Bashiri, an official of the association. Some officials of the Association of Industrialists still want the Islamic Emirate to provide the necessary facilities inside the country for the immigrants who have manufacturing factories in Pakistan.

“Those of our businessmen and industrialists who have now invested in Pakistan and have Pakistani citizenship, their process will continue, it is time for them to transfer their investment to the country,” said Abdul Baseer Turki, an official of the association.

“For those of our brothers who suffered and worked in the neighboring countries until today, and their properties and money were taken from them today, and they are forcibly sent to Afghanistan empty-handed, we call on our industrialists to help them,” said Najibullah Sediqi, deputy of the association.

While the Islamic Emirate talked about the efforts to help and settle the emigrants deported from Pakistan in their own areas, according to published statistics, nearly 200,000 emigrants have been deported from Pakistan and many of them complain about their difficult living conditions.
Good, this is the way. Stand on your own two feet.

And this has been my EXACT point, why should Pakistan be expected to house undocumented, unvetted people who are invisible to the system.
 
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We have Pakistan

We need to make Pakistan work

We have enough problems, with a establishment unwilling to allow democracy to take root and political dynasties unwilling to allow change and new faces

We have to resolve these issues and advance the economy


In the midst of this ANY ethnocentric jahilat, must be hammered doesn't matter if it's from kashmiri, Sindhi, Punjabi, Baloch or Pashtun

Any political parties trying to make a vote bank on ethnocentric politics must be banned

We need to get harsh, we can't meander through decades with no resolution

Increase Police and military actions, hunt down terrorists, arrest supporters and family members, make life harsh for them
 
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Keeping lights off: Undocumented Afghans go underground in Pakistan

Reuters
November 9, 2023


TOPSHOT - Afghan refugees queue outside a police station for their data verification by the National Database and Registration Authority (NADRA) in Karachi on November 8, 2023. More than 250,000 people have crossed from Pakistan to Afghanistan since an October ultimatum given to the 1.7 million Afghans Islamabad said were living illegally in the country. (Photo by Asif HASSAN / AFP)


TOPSHOT - Afghan refugees queue outside a police station for their data verification by the National Database and Registration Authority (NADRA) in Karachi on November 8, 2023. More than 250,000 people have crossed from Pakistan to Afghanistan since an October ultimatum given to the 1.7 million Afghans Islamabad said were living illegally in the country. (Photo by Asif HASSAN / AFP)

After living in Pakistan for years, thousands of Afghans have gone into hiding to escape a government order to expel undocumented foreigners because they fear persecution under a Taliban administration in their homeland, rights activists say.

“The gate is locked from the outside… we are locked inside, we can’t come out, we can’t turn on our lights, we can’t even talk loudly,” said a 23-year-old Afghan woman, speaking online from a shelter where she said dozens of others had holed up until earlier this week before moving on to a new hideout.

Local supporters put a lock on the gate so neighbours believe the house is unoccupied, said other inmates.

The woman, who is from Kabul, said she fears prosecution if she returns to Afghanistan because she converted from Islam to Christianity in 2019 and renunciation of the Islamic faith is a serious offence under the strict law practised by the Taliban.

She is one of thousands believed by rights activists to be in hiding in Pakistan to avoid deportation under a government push for undocumented migrants to leave the country. That includes over one million Afghans, among whom the government says are those involved in militant attacks and crime.
Authorities began rounding up operations across the country after a deadline for voluntary exits expired on Nov 1.

Sijal Shafiq, 30, a Karachi-based human rights activist who helped vulnerable Afghans find shelter before the country’s new expulsion policy, is one of several petitioners asking the Supreme Court to halt the deportation programme.
“I know several women, girls, who say they would rather die than return under the Taliban,” Shafiq says, adding that they all had professional dreams and ambitions which would be impossible to realise in Afghanistan, where women are forbidden from most jobs and can travel only with a male escort.

Afghan refugees gather around National Database and Registration Authority (Nadra) vans for biometric verifications as they prepare to depart for Afghanistan, at a holding centre in Landi Kotal on Nov 1. — AFP


Afghan refugees gather around National Database and Registration Authority (Nadra) vans for biometric verifications as they prepare to depart for Afghanistan, at a holding centre in Landi Kotal on Nov 1. — AFP

There was no immediate comment from a spokesman of the Taliban-run administration on whether those returning would be screened or prosecuted under their laws.

Pakistan’s foreign and interior ministries also did not respond to requests for comment about exempting at-risk individuals from deportation.

The government has so far brushed off calls from the United Nations, rights groups and Western embassies to reconsider its expulsion plan or to identify and protect Afghans who face the risk of persecution at home.

Western embassies, including the United States, have also provided authorities lists of Afghans being processed for possible migration abroad and asked that they be exempt from expulsion, but the numbers are small compared to the people at risk.

‘Worse than prison’​

Reuters spoke to a dozen undocumented migrants trying to stay under the radar of the nationwide sweep. Because of their situation, they declined to be identified or asked that their full names not be used.

They included a 35-year-old father, also a Christian convert, who fled to Pakistan with his nine-year-old daughter.
Another young girl in the shelter said she fears for her life because she belongs to the Hazara community, which has for years faced persecution in Afghanistan.

“This is worse than prison,” said a 22-year-old Afghan man who said he ensured the lights remained off at night.
Some locals who are helping the Afghans arrange for food and water to be secretly smuggled into the shelter under the cover of night.
Afghan singer Wafa, 28, fears her days of refuge in Pakistan, where she moved shortly after the Taliban takeover over two years ago, are coming to an end because her visa has expired.
Speaking from a relative’s home in Islamabad, she said she hoped that she could either get asylum in France or Canada, or make Pakistan her home, as her profession of singing Pashto songs, which she started 11 years ago, is no longer acceptable in Afghanistan, where the Taliban have banned public music performances.



But she is yet to hear back, and applying for a visa extension remains unaffordable for her family. In the meantime, she does not leave the house to avoid widespread snap checks by Pakistani police.
“I am a singer… I know what will happen to me when I’m back,” Wafa said.
Saleh Zada, a 32-year-old singer in Karachi, said he moved from Afghanistan a year ago.
“I was singing in my village for friends and relatives, we had lots of parties, singing parties,” Saleh Zada said, speaking at a crowded low-income neighbourhood apartment belonging to his relatives.
He showed Reuters video clips of him playing the harmonium and rubab, a string instrument, some of which were on social media.
“My family advised me to leave Afghanistan, I feared the Taliban,” he says, adding that the fear of being picked up by Pakistani police, because he does not have a valid visa, has kept him indoors for days.
 
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if they try those afghans will burn down the city.

That comment aged like milk.

when they reach afghanistan they surely will become antipakistan.

As if they weren't already!

The country population is 250 million. How will 33k people be a burden? Pakistan should be a country of benevolence, of compassion. The country has lost its soul. It wants to resolve every issue with force and arm twisting.

Those 33k people were the ones blowing us up everywhere, including mosques.

Khuda ka ghar ko bhe na chora in namak haramo nay.

I know a person who was born in 1980s and he has grand kids ..

Child marriages, heh!

If anyone acts up, Punjab police knows how to take care of em, we can quite easily accommodate/ assimilate them

But then you'll start moaning, whining, and crying about Punjabis.

Western cities have people from allover the world

Have you ever been to London?

They're going to start an ethnic riot in sindh if they continue to operate the way they're operating

So far, nothing.

There will be a big price to pay if they try to do something stupid. The hammer has been finally brought down.

Learn a lesson or two from the demise of MQM! Or perhaps your godfather Imran Khan who actually thought he had a chance against the 'deep state!'

Yeesh.
 
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That comment aged like milk.



As if they weren't already!



Those 33k people were the ones blowing us up everywhere, including mosques.

Khuda ka ghar ko bhe na chora in namak haramo nay.



Child marriages, heh!



But then you'll start moaning, whining, and crying about Punjabis.



Have you ever been to London?



So far, nothing.

There will be a big price to pay if they try to do something stupid. The hammer has been finally brought down.

Learn a lesson or two from the demise of MQM!
The guy married in 1999-2000(around mushi too over at age of 18-20, his daughter married few years ago(probably around 18 or so and has a kid)

You need to have math lesson.

It's very common and normal for people especially pushtoons to marry around 16-20
 
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Keeping lights off: Undocumented Afghans go underground in Pakistan

Reuters
November 9, 2023


TOPSHOT - Afghan refugees queue outside a police station for their data verification by the National Database and Registration Authority (NADRA) in Karachi on November 8, 2023. More than 250,000 people have crossed from Pakistan to Afghanistan since an October ultimatum given to the 1.7 million Afghans Islamabad said were living illegally in the country. (Photo by Asif HASSAN / AFP)


TOPSHOT - Afghan refugees queue outside a police station for their data verification by the National Database and Registration Authority (NADRA) in Karachi on November 8, 2023. More than 250,000 people have crossed from Pakistan to Afghanistan since an October ultimatum given to the 1.7 million Afghans Islamabad said were living illegally in the country. (Photo by Asif HASSAN / AFP)

After living in Pakistan for years, thousands of Afghans have gone into hiding to escape a government order to expel undocumented foreigners because they fear persecution under a Taliban administration in their homeland, rights activists say.

“The gate is locked from the outside… we are locked inside, we can’t come out, we can’t turn on our lights, we can’t even talk loudly,” said a 23-year-old Afghan woman, speaking online from a shelter where she said dozens of others had holed up until earlier this week before moving on to a new hideout.

Local supporters put a lock on the gate so neighbours believe the house is unoccupied, said other inmates.

The woman, who is from Kabul, said she fears prosecution if she returns to Afghanistan because she converted from Islam to Christianity in 2019 and renunciation of the Islamic faith is a serious offence under the strict law practised by the Taliban.

She is one of thousands believed by rights activists to be in hiding in Pakistan to avoid deportation under a government push for undocumented migrants to leave the country. That includes over one million Afghans, among whom the government says are those involved in militant attacks and crime.
Authorities began rounding up operations across the country after a deadline for voluntary exits expired on Nov 1.

Sijal Shafiq, 30, a Karachi-based human rights activist who helped vulnerable Afghans find shelter before the country’s new expulsion policy, is one of several petitioners asking the Supreme Court to halt the deportation programme.
“I know several women, girls, who say they would rather die than return under the Taliban,” Shafiq says, adding that they all had professional dreams and ambitions which would be impossible to realise in Afghanistan, where women are forbidden from most jobs and can travel only with a male escort.

Afghan refugees gather around National Database and Registration Authority (Nadra) vans for biometric verifications as they prepare to depart for Afghanistan, at a holding centre in Landi Kotal on Nov 1. — AFP


Afghan refugees gather around National Database and Registration Authority (Nadra) vans for biometric verifications as they prepare to depart for Afghanistan, at a holding centre in Landi Kotal on Nov 1. — AFP

There was no immediate comment from a spokesman of the Taliban-run administration on whether those returning would be screened or prosecuted under their laws.

Pakistan’s foreign and interior ministries also did not respond to requests for comment about exempting at-risk individuals from deportation.

The government has so far brushed off calls from the United Nations, rights groups and Western embassies to reconsider its expulsion plan or to identify and protect Afghans who face the risk of persecution at home.

Western embassies, including the United States, have also provided authorities lists of Afghans being processed for possible migration abroad and asked that they be exempt from expulsion, but the numbers are small compared to the people at risk.

‘Worse than prison’​

Reuters spoke to a dozen undocumented migrants trying to stay under the radar of the nationwide sweep. Because of their situation, they declined to be identified or asked that their full names not be used.

They included a 35-year-old father, also a Christian convert, who fled to Pakistan with his nine-year-old daughter.
Another young girl in the shelter said she fears for her life because she belongs to the Hazara community, which has for years faced persecution in Afghanistan.

“This is worse than prison,” said a 22-year-old Afghan man who said he ensured the lights remained off at night.
Some locals who are helping the Afghans arrange for food and water to be secretly smuggled into the shelter under the cover of night.
Afghan singer Wafa, 28, fears her days of refuge in Pakistan, where she moved shortly after the Taliban takeover over two years ago, are coming to an end because her visa has expired.
Speaking from a relative’s home in Islamabad, she said she hoped that she could either get asylum in France or Canada, or make Pakistan her home, as her profession of singing Pashto songs, which she started 11 years ago, is no longer acceptable in Afghanistan, where the Taliban have banned public music performances.



But she is yet to hear back, and applying for a visa extension remains unaffordable for her family. In the meantime, she does not leave the house to avoid widespread snap checks by Pakistani police.
“I am a singer… I know what will happen to me when I’m back,” Wafa said.
Saleh Zada, a 32-year-old singer in Karachi, said he moved from Afghanistan a year ago.
“I was singing in my village for friends and relatives, we had lots of parties, singing parties,” Saleh Zada said, speaking at a crowded low-income neighbourhood apartment belonging to his relatives.
He showed Reuters video clips of him playing the harmonium and rubab, a string instrument, some of which were on social media.
“My family advised me to leave Afghanistan, I feared the Taliban,” he says, adding that the fear of being picked up by Pakistani police, because he does not have a valid visa, has kept him indoors for days.
Isolated anecdotes. Just like we cannot generalise afghans based on the actions of one segment of their society; we should not shed tears (read stop deportation) based on these isolated sob stories.

There is an option of "asylum" for persecuted individuals. Our feeble hearted (read HR activists) should advocate for it rather than calling for a complete halt of this process.

Papers should also publish about the crimes and terrorist activities "some" sections of the afghan refugees are involved in, no?
 
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The guy married in 1999-2000(around mushi too over at age of 18-20, his daughter married few years ago(probably around 18 or so and has a kid)

You need to have math lesson.

It's very common and normal for people especially pushtoons to marry around 16-20

More mouths for us to feed.

Yay...
 
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