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If Pakistan had money would the western countries sell their weapons to us?

T129 is a paid project are you able to buy them?

I am talking about One Stop Solution providers who manufacture everything themselves and don't require a nod for their engines from other parties.
 
They already do. It's you who don't buy them. The only problem could be USA and if you had money like UAE or Saudi Arabia yes they would sell you every weapon. Get rich and you can get away with anything in modern world. Europe has no issue in selling us weapons only question is do you have the money to buy them

That is exactly what it all comes down to. Having a weak economy is the root cause of all these problems.
 
Answer is very much yes...

Having money doesn't mean that we (Pakistan) can buy high quality stuff from West. USA still want to turn Pakistan into Iraq and Syria but our Army is one step ahead to prevent it. Now that Pakistan has learn it's lesson and moved to Chinese Camp, USA won't sell advance tech to Pakistan.

As far as western countries selling military hardware to Pakistan, even if they sells something, they will sell it scale-down version, they will buckle under pressure. USA has a leverage over all European countries and they can stop spares and support in case of sanction or from USA. What we are getting from Italy is low tech stuff and used/surplus stuff.
 
I am talking about One Stop Solution providers who manufacture everything themselves and don't require a nod for their engines from other parties.
You paid for AH1Z those were stopped then you paid for T129 those were stopped. T129 covers your question.
Look at your other weapons like HQ9 you pay you buy it. So what is the moral of the story? It is a western policy to use weapons as a diplomatic & sanctioning tool but on the eastern side there is no such policy. So your question varies from country to country.
 
Here I would give you example of HQ9 you paid & you got the equipment so the in the end policy of every country varies at some places you can get equipment with money & at other places you get equipment with foreign policy & other factors.
 
Forget about whether the West will sell us the weapons or not, the question is when will we as a nation of 210 million people be able to produce advanced weapons systems, technologies and sciences like the European/White nations do? I'm honestly sick and tired of watching us having to rely on others for decades. The ONLY SOLUTION is for Pakistan to become as advanced as the White nations in terms of Science, Technology and Defence. We should rely on NO-ONE but ourselves. The problem is with us, not the West or ANYONE else for that matter.
 
we should follow turkish model who are gradually moving towards indigenous advance weapon development and are developing world class drones
 
Please ask Saudi's and Emeriti's to buy F35. US refuse to sell them if you don't know the facts. US don't like any force against Israel to stand with no matter how much tons of money you have period.
Emeratis will get the F-35. Secondly, for Pakistan, we are talking about blk-52 and variants. or AH-1Zs etc. Who will embargo those if we had the money for it and the Americans need the jobs to remain building out those orders?
 
Pakistan must fight asymmetric warfare. Make it too expensive for Indians to attack.

We need lots of "bang for buck" anti-Tank weapons, anti-Aircraft weapons, artillery, mines, small ships, cheap aircraft.

US hasn't managed to finish the Middle East conflicts and wasted trillions. Now they're bankrupt.



Meanwhile, real money should be put towards infrastructure and education so that we can afford better things eventually.
 
Forget about whether the West will sell us the weapons or not, the question is when will we as a nation of 210 million people be able to produce advanced weapons systems, technologies and sciences like the European/White nations do? I'm honestly sick and tired of watching us having to rely on others for decades. The ONLY SOLUTION is for Pakistan to become as advanced as the White nations in terms of Science, Technology and Defence. We should rely on NO-ONE but ourselves. The problem is with us, not the West or ANYONE else for that matter.

For that Pakistan has to invest in their young talent which at the moment is keen to leave the country as there aren't many options available. This topic is a rabbit hole the lesser said is better. Unless we don't fix corruption, fix our judiciary, and provide security and lucrative employment opportunities it would be very hard to attract young talent.
 
For that Pakistan has to invest in their young talent which at the moment is keen to leave the country as there aren't many options available. This topic is a rabbit hole the lesser said is better. Unless we don't fix corruption, fix our judiciary, and provide security and lucrative employment opportunities it would be very hard to attract young talent.




Well then let's fix all the above instead of complaining about why others don't sell us their top of the line weapons. The Chinese have managed to do it so why can't we?
 
Well then let's fix all the above instead of complaining about why others don't sell us their top of the line weapons. The Chinese have managed to do it so why can't we?

Because this Qoum doesn't understand Democracy it requires communism. For certain countries, democratic system just seems incompatible and we are one of those countries.
 
Because this Qoum doesn't understand Democracy it requires communism. For certain countries, democratic system just seems incompatible and we are one of those countries.



I don't care what system they use. They can all become devil worshippers and satanists for all I care as long as they can achieve what the Western peoples have done in terms of defence, science and technology. REAL achievements matter. Everything else is just dust.
 
Emeratis will get the F-35. Secondly, for Pakistan, we are talking about blk-52 and variants. or AH-1Zs etc. Who will embargo those if we had the money for it and the Americans need the jobs to remain building out those orders?
Emerati's will not get F35 alteast 5 years. Let Israel evaluate it first then She will decide
 

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