If Murica NATO not accept end of war in Ukraine, China will then supply military hardwar Firedragons drones to Russia

[nahtanbob]

Your ego is worth nothing here, go to fight China than you see who is the winner you always choose weak enemy

It works both ways -- China has not picked a fight

 

[White and Green with M/S]

It works both ways -- China has not picked a fight

because you afraid of China lol and China is not weak country like Iraq Afghanistan etc etc

 

[Abid123]

In chapto ko apni soch badal ni chaia. Golden moment ha West ko busy dakna kylia.

China has done nothing to fight against American imperialism since the fall of the Soviet Union.

The only countries actively fighting against American imperialism is Russia, Iran and North Korea. That's the truth.

 

[dBSPL]

While China is working on a fair peace plan before things get completely out of control, it makes little sense at this stage for them to take a step that would completely lose Ukraine's trust.

 

[PakFactor]

While China is working on a fair peace plan before things get completely out of control, it makes little sense at this stage for them to take a step that would completely lose Ukraine's trust.

A failed strategy to tie down the West. It will come back and haunt them.

 

[nahtanbob]

because you afraid of China lol and China is not weak country like Iraq Afghanistan etc etc

China has not attacked Taiwan either

 

[Beny Karachun]

For face saving and humiliation yeah yeah your master and its allies attacked Iraq like a pack of wolves lol


For face saving and humiliation yeah yeah your master and its allies attacked Iraq like a pack of wolves lol

You wanted some Macho one on one?
Maybe Saddam and Bush could have done a boxing match, the winner gets to keep Kuwait?

 

[DF41]

This is highly unlikely. It would break China's neutrality stance.

China need not have that stance of being neutral any more. Why must China appear to be neutral when Murica and NATO and other Murican doggies like Japan and UK appeared to be demented and righteously indulging in what they think is a holy gang rape of Russia?

It is clear over and over again from the confessions of Merkel and others that the Minsk negociations nothing of hogwash in preparing Ukriane as weapon to destroy Russia and to claim the wealth of Russia.

SEE THE WAY MURICA AND NATO AND UK AND THOSE THEY CONTROLLED POURING WEAPONS AND $$$$$ INTO UKRAINE NAZIs IN FRENZY OF WANKING AWAY , CHALLENGING EACH OTHER IN THEIR UTTERLY DIGUSTING WAY AS TO WHO CAN PRODUCE MORE AND CAN SPURT THEIR CUM FURTHER

And all that as preamble in the killing of China who standing firmly in the way of Murica Hegemony over the world.

Actually China can supply Firedragon system's 300km missiles that can be launched by Tornado-S MLRS system of Russia. Since it is tube launched and totally destroyed on impact it would be hard to prove they are not the missiles of Tornado-S. Another option can be for China to take the blueprints from Russia of Tornado-S 9M544-200km range missiles and produce them locally sending them back to Russia maybe with some improvements as well(laser gyros - longer range etc.). This way China won't lose deniability option while supplying long range munition to Russia.

Same option goes for Russian Orion MALE drones. They have sufficient performance and can carry atgms as well. Instead of delivering Chinese patented drones factories can produce Orion drones after taking blueprints from Russia and send them back to Russia. If it is downed then a Russian produced Orion drone would be downed not a Chinese drone. If paperwork is handled correctly it can't be traced back to China and would appear as Russian production.

Absolutely no to surreptitiously having to clandestinely supply weapons to Russia

WHY MUST CHINA DO THAT WHEN MURICA AND NATO AND THEIR HIDEOUS DOGGIES LIKE UK AND JAPAN POURING WEAPONS TO UKRAINE NAZIS TO KILL RUSSIANS. AND ALL THAT BE EVENTUALLY FOLLOWED BY MURICA AND NATO IN THE KILLING OF CHINESE WHO ARE NOW THE ONLY 2 COUNTRIES THAT CAN PREVENT MURICA AND NATO FROM DESPOILING THE OTHER COUNTRIES.
Not only the Chinese weapon systems be openly destributed to Russia. Those chinese weapon systems be backed by Chinese advisors to Russia. And in numbers and quantity to shock and awe Murica and NATO to shit and pee in their pants.
Why other countries can supply Ukraine and those countries supporting Ukraine with weapon systems?

Time for China to step in to supply Russia and those on the side of Russia with weapon systems too.

Especially with Chinese PCL-191 and FireDragons

details here

China's Version of HIMARS, long-range Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS), Could Be 'Game Changer' if Beijing Attacks Taiwan​

China's Version of HIMARS, long-range Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS), Could Be 'Game Changer' if Beijing Attacks Taiwan BY ZOE STROZEWSKI ON 8/5/22 AT 1:33 PM EDT long-range Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS) that has been described as China's version of the HIMARS could be a "game...
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Anytime Murica want to embarrass themselves by comparing their touted HIMAR to PHL-191?

HIMAR CANNOT COMPARE IN REACH, AND COMPARE WITH BANG
OR IN CEP
OR COMPARE IN NUMBERS.

The new M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems, or HIMARS, will bring the total number committed to Ukraine to 16. The light, wheeled multiple rocket launcher allows Ukraine to strike at ranges of 85 kilometers, or 53 miles,

AND REMEMBER CHINA INDUSTRIAL PROWESS CAN CHURN OUT
PHL-191 AND FIREDRAGONS LIKE COOKIES AND DIMSUMS.

CHINA CAN EASILY SUPPLY RUSSIA WITH 10 PHL-191 FOR EVERY 1 HIMARS MURICA GIVING TO UKRAINE

HIMAR IS LIKE USING MUZZLE LOADER BLACK POWDER SINGLE SHOT AGAINST Type 85 heavy machine gun

After all , Russia is on the frontline of the war waged by Murica and NATO on both of them. Hoping to destroy or weaken Russian prior to taking on China

And also send 100 PCL 191s together with 20,000 Fire Dragons with reach of 350km and CEP of 1 meter ++

With big missiles, China also got tiny cutie wutie missiles size of cucumbers.
Of much shorter range than the FireDragons.

World first micro missile to hunt snipers, helicopters and armour cars​

https://inf.news/en/military/e216edc4350d07ad049b992cf0b50fd4.html

China should gift Russia with 500 such boxes for a start.

Chinese private enterprises have created miracles and manufactured the QN202 micro-missile. How does it compare with the United States?​

2022-09-05 18:00 HKT

The development of miniature missile systems has become a new trend in the national defense and military industry. The more famous ones are the American Scorpion, Spear and other micro missiles, and China's QN202 micro missiles. Compared with the US micro-missiles, how strong is the Chinese-made micro-missiles?

1. What is QN202, and why is it eye-catching?

At the 2018 Zhuhai Air Show, many cutting-edge military weapons appeared, making the audience dizzy. The QN202 micro missile is one of the more eye-catching weapons at this air show. On the introduction card, it intimately used multiple languages to briefly and concisely introduce to the audience where this miniature missile is and where it is new.

From the appearance, this QN202 is relatively small and exquisite, and the thickness is equivalent to that of an adult's arm. The QN202 mini missile is only 52 cm in size and 1.2 kg in mass, which is basically equivalent to the weight of two bottles of conventional mineral water and is very light.

As can be seen from the pictures uploaded back to the Zhuhai Air Show, QN202 creatively adopts a backpack-style design. The backpack-like storage for individual soldiers makes carrying missiles as easy and fast as students carrying their schoolbags to school. It is expected to greatly increase the speed of assembly of soldiers on the battlefield, thereby improving combat efficiency. A soldier's backpack can carry six QN202 micro missiles. If the soldier holds another one, then one person can carry seven mini-missiles. This type of micro missile system is flexible, easy to carry, and has advantages that traditional missile systems cannot match in the past.

QN202 manufacturer AutoNavi is a private enterprise based in Wuhan Optics Valley. Although the name is similar to AutoNavi Software Co., Ltd., which developed the AutoNavi map, the two companies are actually not the same. AutoNavi Infrared mainly produced infrared thermal imaging products, such as infrared thermal imaging cameras. In 2014, this company creatively obtained the overall development qualification for a certain type of new and complete weapon system, setting a precedent for a private enterprise, and it can be described as a great success.

QN202 is a successful innovation attempt by a Chinese company, adding to the field of R&D and manufacturing of China's micro-missiles. Following the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation's 63.5 cm "Rainbow" miniature precision attack missile, China's miniature missile has opened a new chapter, adding QN202, a new force from private enterprises.

2. With a small body and great power, are micro missiles really useful?

The miniature missiles have shrunk in size, will their functions also be weakened, and can't they be used in modern battlefields? The answer is of course no.
Another big idea of QN202 is the use of gun-type launchers. In the past, miniature missiles such as "Rainbow" were mainly used on drones and were not considered for individual combat. The QN202 is light and portable, and the matched gun-type launcher makes it possible for individual soldiers to launch missiles in hand.

This gun launcher weighs about 1.2 kg, while a single soldier backpack full of QN202 weighs 7.2 kg. The total weight of the entire device is only 8.4 kg, which is light and labor-saving, and easy to carry.
The gun launcher of the QN202 is similar to an ordinary military assault rifle and has an aiming display similar to a gun sight. The display can display the images transmitted by the missile seeker, and is also equipped with a fore grip, a target indication system, and a retractable support.
On the actual battlefield, soldiers can use the transmitter to launch QN202 by operating the controller with their left hand. The familiar design reduces the difficulty of operating this new miniature self-seeking missile system for individual soldiers in actual combat in a sense, and enables soldiers to use new weapons more quickly.

Of course, QN202 is not only used for individual combat, it can also be carried on the popular UAV for military strikes. Take the WS30 micro drone independently developed by AutoNavi Infrared as an example. In order to cooperate with the QN202 micro missile, it is equipped with a special barrel device. This drone alone can carry four QN202 micro missiles into it. Enemy line.
The application of miniature drones and miniature self-seeking missiles may be the embodiment of the technological charm of the age of science and technology. It does not require the soldiers of the People's Liberation Army to take risks or snipers. When the QN202 micro missile is mounted on a UAV, it can use semi-active laser guidance to guide the enemy. Such a high-tech combination can replace individual soldiers to go deep into dangerous places, complete more arduous combat missions, and avoid unnecessary casualties.

At the Zhuhai Air Show, there was such a phrase "don't care after launch" in the introduction column of QN202. What does it mean? In fact, no matter after launch, it means that QN202 does not require special laser irradiation, and only needs to use the scope on the gun transmitter to complete one-key lock.

As long as the operator completes the step of locking the target, there is no need to do any extra operations on the QN202 missile. Once the target is locked , QN202 can be launched automatically without any guidance. The QN202 has a range of 2 kilometers. As long as the enemy is within 2 kilometers, whether the enemy is light armor or a vivid target, the QN202 can effectively strike it.

And not to forget China drones and suicide drones

To take out the enemies of both Russia and China

Ukraine war will end very very fast

When dozens of PCL 191 and Firedragons with reach of 350km and CEP of 1 meter ++

Against that of HIMARS used by Ukraine to strike at ranges of 85 kilometers, or 53 miles,

And sniper duels between mercenaries and Nazis using Barrett XM109 that weigh 15 kg unloaded.

And that of Russian snipers using QN202 light and portable, and the matched gun-type launcher makes it possible for individual soldiers to launch missiles in hand.

This gun launcher weighs about 1.2 kg, while a single soldier backpack full of QN202 weighs 7.2 kg. The total weight of the entire device is only 8.4 kg, which is light and labor-saving, and easy to carry.



Delivery of Firedragons (range 300KM CEP 1m)

China tests precision strike capability of its advanced rocket launch system at high altitude​

Chinese experts believe that the range of the rocket launch system was extended to 500 km, which would mean that the rocket launch system could hit any Indian military base along the Line of

www.news9live.com

and Chinese suicide drones by the hundreds of boxes Get thousands and tens of thousands of Chinese FH-901 suicide drones.
Get a hundred boxes to start with



FH-901 carry 10 times the bang of Switchblade, much longer loitering time and can carry out swarming attacks.

That will make Murican Switchblade look like a switchblade brought to a machine gun fight.

Zelensky and rest of NATO gangsters will crawl 3 times around Red Square and beg forgiveness
Especially as after de nazification of Ukraine, Russia move to denazified NATO as well.




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China has completed a test of 200 unmanned aerial vehicles' swarm 'ability to cooperate in combat.
Perhaps by next month China complete test of 2000 unmanned aerial vehicles' swarm 'ability to cooperate in combat.

@mangopress Charley Malagum:
The Chinese military are getting stronger and stronger. The USA are in for a huge treat in 2025

MIGHT BE EARLIER SHOULD CHINA GIFT RUSSIA THIS TO DENAZIFIED AND DEMILITARISED UKRAINE AND NATO

 

[retaxis]

America and West will be white minority by 2040s why even fight when they won't even exist in our lifetimes? America is anglo country, anglo values, anglo culture, anglo politics soon to be anglo minority of course no more America. Just like if Pakistan were all koreans or Nigeria was all Malaysians it wont exist anymore. bye bye america.

 

[jhungary]

Some thread bring up how smart people are, some thread, like this, bring out the stupidest of the stupidest...

 

[Viet]

China has done nothing to fight against American imperialism since the fall of the Soviet Union.

The only countries actively fighting against American imperialism is Russia, Iran and North Korea. That's the truth.

China is more capitalist than capitalist America. The longer the war, the more deaths and destructions for Ukraine, Russia, EU, US, the world, the cheaper oil and gas for China. Enemies of China become weaker. That’s win win for China. Such opportunities will come only in 100 years.

Putin is just a dumb imperial spy. Russians are not capitalists. They will remain forever weak and poor. Ok they can eat nukes to breakfast, lunch and dinner.

 

[OIO]

China is more capitalist than capitalist America. The longer the war, the more deaths and destructions for Ukraine, Russia, EU, US, the world, the cheaper oil and gas for China. Enemies of China become weaker. That’s win win for China. Such opportunities will come only in 100 years.

Putin is just a dumb imperial spy. Russians are not capitalists. They will remain forever weak and poor. Ok they can eat nukes to breakfast, lunch and dinner.

You are like a blind man trying to figure out an elephant, Chinese farmers all have land and houses, and the Chinese government provides cheap public services.

China can only be said to be mercantilism but not capitalism. China is not controlled by capitalists, let alone imperialism.

Doing business requires a peaceful environment. China is a big manufacturing country, not financial imperialism.

 

[Viet]

You are like a blind man trying to figure out an elephant, Chinese farmers all have land and houses, and the Chinese government provides cheap public services.

China can only be said to be mercantilism but not capitalism. China is not controlled by capitalists, let alone imperialism.

Doing business requires a peaceful environment. China is a big manufacturing country, not financial imperialism.

That’s almost the same or twin. mercantilism, capitalism. But mercantilism is the picture old China, before industrialization. chinese businessmen in Asia. What I mean in terms of capitalism is the degree of making money. Russia is not a mercantile country because it has no mercantile class at all. India is more a religious country than a capitalist country.

 

[OIO]

That’s almost the same or twin. mercantilism, capitalism. But mercantilism is the picture old China, before industrialization. chinese businessmen in Asia. What I mean in terms of capitalism is the degree of making money. Russia is not a mercantile country because it has no mercantile class at all. India is more a religious country than a capitalist country.

You could call it hyper-mercantilism.

 

[ARMalik]

Unlike the childish nonsense people believe in specially posted by main stream media illiterates, according to the prestigious Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) of UK, Russian Military output is so vast that US/combined West CANNOT MATCH IT !!

So please, get your heads out from your rear ends, and read something useful for once.

The Return of Industrial Warfare

Can the West still provide the arsenal of democracy?

www.rusi.org