'If Iranian general can be droned for terrorism, why not a Pakistani general?'

[SIPRA]

 

[Major Sam]

@The Eagle @waz @Dubious @Major Sam
There is already athread on it. Please merge them.

Existing thread:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/if-i...not-a-pakistani-general.648358/#post-11991386

@The Eagle @Dazzler can you do it please.

 

[Gangetic]

LOL

Remember it was PAF that spared Bipin's life while he was cowering in a bunker.

Also remember that the US can accurately hit a moving vehicle 10,000 KM away, while India can't hit a stationary building 30 KM away.

 

[fisher1]

I can't open that site.

Banned in Pakistan?

Please give summary of the article or main points.

 

[Windjammer]

It's in their nature to fire over others shoulders.
In 1971 they relied on Muktis
In Kargil, both Israel and America saved their necks from under our boots.
After 27th Feb. they were pleading with Afghan Taliban to try and shoot down some Pakistani jet.
Now they have turned to their Jija Ji .
saley gand mein dum nai....aur hum kisi say kum nai.

 

[LeGenD]

Indians will probably miss their target and might shoot up their self-defense systems like that farce of shooting down their own helicopter. Inept.

Hahahahaha

'If Iranian general can be droned for terrorism, why not a Pakistani general?'

Chidanand Rajghatta | TNN | Updated: Jan 4, 2020, 22:26 IST

WASHINGTON: Amid widespread misgivings in the US Congress and among American analysts about the assassination of a serving general of a sovereign nation, the Trump administration is belatedly making the case that Iranian General

Qassim Suleimani
was a terrorist and a war criminal who should have been targeted a long time ago, even though he was not on any global proscribed list.


In fact, top administration officials are going so far as to link Iran and Suleimani to 9/11, even though the US Commission that carried out a monumental inquiry into the attack found no such connection. The 9/11 attack was carried out by Sunni extremists, mostly from

Saudi Arabia
, who by most accounts had little or no connection to Shia-majority Iran, a hated regional rival.


US vice-president

Mike Pence
was among those who wheeled out this 9/11 connection in a series of tweets listing Suleimani’s purported terrorist activities, alleging that he “assisted in the clandestine travel to Afghanistan of 10 of the 12 terrorists who carried out the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States.”


Pence was eviscerated by analysts for “gaslighting” the American public, with experts arguing that the idea that Suleimani would assist in 9/11 — knowingly or otherwise — made no sense, because besides being Shia, he actually cooperated with the US government against the Taliban in Afghanistan, which hosted the 9/11 plotters and perpetrators.

Indeed, the assassination of general Suleimani opened a can of worms for the Trump administration with some Af-Pak experts asking why Washington should not target Pakistani generals who have a more established record of backing and carrying out terrorist attacks.


"Important point: why aren’t the Americans confronting the Taliban masters in Pakistan in a similar manner? The Taliban and their masters in Rawalpindi are responsible for the killing of 3500 US servicemen in Afghanistan," asked Saad Mohseni, a prominent Afghan entrepreneur.


And from a US military veteran on Twitter: So Americans killed by a foreign proxy group are worthy of revenge when it is Iran providing the support, but when it is Pakistan supporting the Taliban and HQN killing Americans in AFG they get a peace deal and Pakistan gets aid.


Several US military commanders and administration officials have accused Pakistan’s military intelligence agency ISI of using Taliban proxies to kill American personnel in Afghanistan with no retribution from successive administrations in Washington except for aid cuts and downgraded ties.

Earlier this week, US secretary of state

Mike Pompeo
revealed in a tweet that he had phoned Pakistan's Chief of Staff General Bajwa and to brief him about "US defensive action to kill Qassim Suleimani," adding that "the #Iran regime’s actions in the region are destabilizing and our resolve in protecting American interests, personnel, facilities, and partners will not waver." It was not clear if Pompeo intended it to be a warning to Bajwa and Pakistan, which in the eyes of some US analysts has long carried out a covert proxy war against US forces in Afghanistan.


Separately, Washington is rife with speculation as to why Trump decided to go in for such precipitate action against Suleimani that is resulting in something the President has pointedly sought to avoid: deploying more US troops abroad. One explanation is that Trump felt he looked weak after his 2019 decision to call off an airstrike against Iran after it downed the US surveillance drone.


There is also conjecture that Trump resented being trolled by Suleimani on social media. The Iranian general was apparently quite adept on Twitter, frequently taunting Trump, including calling him a “bartender” and a “casino manager.”


There are also more serious wag-the-dog explanations for the strike, with one prominent American scribe saying it is "hard to decouple his (Sulemani’s) killing from the impeachment saga." Indeed, the impeachment saga has been blown off the news cycle, at least for now.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-a-pakistani-general/articleshow/73102067.cms

Only an Indian will come up with this shitty piece.

Afghan Taliban resurged in Afghanistan due to failure of US-led political reforms in Afghanistan. Latest Washington Files admit as much.

Pakistan simply watched the show from a distance and did not touch Afghan Taliban because this could turn into a much bigger war for Pakistan which it could not afford. Although Pakistan did everything it could to curb terrorism inside Pakistan and oust all militants from Pakistani territory.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1213153820445941760

Rock solid rebuttal. That is gonna pinch...

 

[pkd]

Super-Poopers are as hallucinated as they come, stoned on some 2 bit daru, drunk on self-grandiose notions; as if world revolves around them, reality is that their head sentry narrowly escaped a hair breadth rendezvous with the H4/H2; had it not been a last minute correction by the PAF Pilots, he would have been licking the earth Mantle with cow-dung topping million miles under the rubble.

 

[Arsalan 345]

even if america do something against us on behalf of india,we will target india directly.we will target most important leaders in india openly.no mercy.

 

[IceCold]

Sala chutia dorson ka favors per jeena wal, khud to ker sakta nahi.

 

[fitpOsitive]

'If Iranian general can be droned for terrorism, why not a Pakistani general?'

Chidanand Rajghatta | TNN | Updated: Jan 4, 2020, 22:26 IST

WASHINGTON: Amid widespread misgivings in the US Congress and among American analysts about the assassination of a serving general of a sovereign nation, the Trump administration is belatedly making the case that Iranian General

Qassim Suleimani
was a terrorist and a war criminal who should have been targeted a long time ago, even though he was not on any global proscribed list.


In fact, top administration officials are going so far as to link Iran and Suleimani to 9/11, even though the US Commission that carried out a monumental inquiry into the attack found no such connection. The 9/11 attack was carried out by Sunni extremists, mostly from

Saudi Arabia
, who by most accounts had little or no connection to Shia-majority Iran, a hated regional rival.


US vice-president

Mike Pence
was among those who wheeled out this 9/11 connection in a series of tweets listing Suleimani’s purported terrorist activities, alleging that he “assisted in the clandestine travel to Afghanistan of 10 of the 12 terrorists who carried out the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States.”


Pence was eviscerated by analysts for “gaslighting” the American public, with experts arguing that the idea that Suleimani would assist in 9/11 — knowingly or otherwise — made no sense, because besides being Shia, he actually cooperated with the US government against the Taliban in Afghanistan, which hosted the 9/11 plotters and perpetrators.

Indeed, the assassination of general Suleimani opened a can of worms for the Trump administration with some Af-Pak experts asking why Washington should not target Pakistani generals who have a more established record of backing and carrying out terrorist attacks.


"Important point: why aren’t the Americans confronting the Taliban masters in Pakistan in a similar manner? The Taliban and their masters in Rawalpindi are responsible for the killing of 3500 US servicemen in Afghanistan," asked Saad Mohseni, a prominent Afghan entrepreneur.


And from a US military veteran on Twitter: So Americans killed by a foreign proxy group are worthy of revenge when it is Iran providing the support, but when it is Pakistan supporting the Taliban and HQN killing Americans in AFG they get a peace deal and Pakistan gets aid.


Several US military commanders and administration officials have accused Pakistan’s military intelligence agency ISI of using Taliban proxies to kill American personnel in Afghanistan with no retribution from successive administrations in Washington except for aid cuts and downgraded ties.

Earlier this week, US secretary of state

Mike Pompeo
revealed in a tweet that he had phoned Pakistan's Chief of Staff General Bajwa and to brief him about "US defensive action to kill Qassim Suleimani," adding that "the #Iran regime’s actions in the region are destabilizing and our resolve in protecting American interests, personnel, facilities, and partners will not waver." It was not clear if Pompeo intended it to be a warning to Bajwa and Pakistan, which in the eyes of some US analysts has long carried out a covert proxy war against US forces in Afghanistan.


Separately, Washington is rife with speculation as to why Trump decided to go in for such precipitate action against Suleimani that is resulting in something the President has pointedly sought to avoid: deploying more US troops abroad. One explanation is that Trump felt he looked weak after his 2019 decision to call off an airstrike against Iran after it downed the US surveillance drone.


There is also conjecture that Trump resented being trolled by Suleimani on social media. The Iranian general was apparently quite adept on Twitter, frequently taunting Trump, including calling him a “bartender” and a “casino manager.”


There are also more serious wag-the-dog explanations for the strike, with one prominent American scribe saying it is "hard to decouple his (Sulemani’s) killing from the impeachment saga." Indeed, the impeachment saga has been blown off the news cycle, at least for now.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-a-pakistani-general/articleshow/73102067.cms

Pakistan collaborated with USA(rogue nation).
Afghan Mujahideen collaborated with USA(now terrorists)
Gen Soleimani collaborated with USA (now terrorist).

So to all allies of USA, you guys are future terrorists.

 

[Philosopher]

India does not have guts nor the capability to do such a thing. Do they even have a UAV?
Iran is against the world's sole superpower, it's not easy for Iran to respond, but it will.

On paper, there is a conventional power gap between Pakistan and India, but I have no doubt our Pakistani brothers are much more professional and capable than Indians in terms of their personal. And that power gap even on paper is not that much anyway.

 

[Falcon26]

Mods please indian links on this forum. @waz @Eagle_storm

 

[koolio]

This is a lesson to the Iranians, never trust Gangu terrorists, Chabahar project is doomed, Well RSS chaddis are always dreaming to take out Pakistan and reclaim as thier lost land, Pakistan must remain very vigilant in these testing times, if Gangadeshi's decide to do misadventure, Pakistan should strike very hard.

 

[Bil]

Its high time Pakistan should release the video of how we DIDN'T hit Bipin back in Feb 2019.

 

[Baz]

Hilarious...