If Iran gets a nuke, we have to get one: Saudi crown prince

[Dalit]

If Pakistan was smart it would approach KSA and either build their strategic capability, or have a pact with them in return for money and all the other goodies that we need.

Iran might be pissed, but what do we get from Iran anyways except 300 MW and smuggled goods?

This ummah ka chumma needs to stop now. Erdogan Ertugrul is in bed with Israel, so are the Saudis and UAE. We don't need to suck up to Israel, but we can let go of this whole ummah charade.

I am all for setting up a pact that involves nuclear tech exchange. The Western countries have such pacts where they share nuclear tech among themselves. Pakistan, KSA and all other likeminded nations should by all means cooperate on this front.

 

[lydian fall]

If Pakistan was smart it would approach KSA and either build their strategic capability, or have a pact with them in return for money and all the other goodies that we need.

Iran might be pissed, but what do we get from Iran anyways except 300 MW and smuggled goods?

This ummah ka chumma needs to stop now. Erdogan Ertugrul is in bed with Israel, so are the Saudis and UAE. We don't need to suck up to Israel, but we can let go of this whole ummah charade.

First of all, Western countries and israel don't let it

Secondly all the money goes for Pakistani generals not the Muslim people with lower HDI than many poor african countries

 

[tsunset]

Well apparently you don't know your own history correctly. Or your sources are the usual obscure and controversial conspiracy theorists or ultranationalist Turkish authors. You've proven yourself very ignorant of history in the past. Many posts of yours had a lot of inaccuracies,false information and contradictions.

Basically panturk history rewriting as they love to do, they even claim that "Turks" discovered the Americas

This is compulsive and deep rooted into their culture

 

[tsunset]

Another Turkish piece of art "The Great Turan"

 

[dBSPL]

It's about a statement by a Saudi prince, but the things discussed are really ridiculous, irrelevant, off-topic spammings, and many of them are really at the level of facebook history experts, lol... That's what we call in our language wrestling on the run. Creating a perception by spamming the thread as if you know a lot about things that are not the topic here is really outdated. Anyway, I'm intervening to clarify something:

We are just 6+1 countries. The number of people in the world who speak Turkish as their mother tongue is less than 200 million, or slightly more. Apart from these countries, the countries with the largest Turkish minorities are Iran, Russia and China. The Turkish-speaking population in Iran is larger than the total population of Kazakhstan. Likewise, the population of China's autonomous Uyghur region is larger than that of Azerbaijan.

There is no significant population left in the Balkans. The largest Turkish community left from the former state is in Bulgaria. In the Middle East, it is in the Levant. Todays Iraq and Syria, and more less at Lubnan. On the other hand, the Kuloguls and other migrated Turks in North Africa were largely Arabized, with only a few communities retaining their mother tongue. Before that, as in many Balkan regions, there was already a massive exodus to Turkiye, due to wars and later, Russian policies in the north of the Black Sea and especially in Crimea. Today, there are more than a million people of Crimean origin in Turkiye whose families have been in Turkiye for at least 2 generations. Not only Tatars, but also Circassians shared the same fate, even though they were not Turks.

Anyway, to cut a long story short, the maps above are a projection of the spread of Turkic culture and peoples, and nothing more. In which regions they lived, where they emerged, where they established states, etc.

However, the Organization of Turkic States has a comprehensive plan for the integration of 6+1 independent Turkic states. We have tried to describe them in detail in the relevant threads, if anyone interested. These efforts are aimed at an EU-like common economic structure, cultural integration, common security and a set of standards in social life an so on. Although there are many topics, I can give an example of a common education curriculum and a common alphabet. At the moment, these states, with the exception of Kyrgyzstan, have switched to the common alphabet with Kazakhstan has complete transformation this year. Kyrgyzstan will start the transformation by starting to use the dual alphabet in 2024. These countries are also proponents of a common historical thesis.

Esp for TR, of course not excludes Russia, Iran and China or any other similar countries, the states of the largest Turkic minorities, from this formation. In fact, the biggest disinformation in such forums is that this structure is not in line with the interests of these countries. In fact, the situation is very different. Beyond the weirdo conversations here, I think China in particular is well aware of this in its state structure. Indeed, the vision and the declared goals of these countries as a whole are basically steps for the strengthening of Asia. The common interests are too great to be compared to disagreements, so we need more dialogue and understanding of each other.

 

[Foinikas]

Basically panturk history rewriting as they love to do, they even claim that "Turks" discovered the Americas

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This is compulsive and deep rooted into their culture

Oh man,this is so ridiculous!

Another Turkish piece of art "The Great Turan"


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I've seen similar ones online!

 

[MastanKhan]

Iran's main focus was to harvest benefits of nuclear technologies specially in the field of agriculture, electricity, medical applications such as nuclear medicine, purifying chemical elements such as Titanium etc. Nuclear bomb is almost non existent in Iranian nuclear doctrine.

Iran has already announced readiness to help Saudi punks develop a local nuclear industry to help them gain industrial independence.

Saudi punk forgets that Israel already possesed nuclear warheads.

Btw, they can pay 10 billion dollars per warhead to Pakistanis and receive their desired bombs. 100 billion dollars im exchange for 10 warheads. Instead of begging west like an abused child, pay Pakistanis for nuclear bombs. Easier than thought.Hi,

Pakistan won't sell to iran at any cost.

But you had the chance to get it for free at the time of revolution. But out of sheer ignorance---you let that opportunity slip away.

 

[dBSPL]

On a related point: I think, -in principle-, no country should have access to nuclear weapons. But this is not technically possible. It is not realistic. This side of the issue was closed 70 years ago.

So only alternative is, any country that wants to should have access to these weapons. Contrary to popular belief, the nuclear terror balance is the most important mechanism protecting the world from a nuclear war.

Countries X and Y are close allies and both have weapons of mass destruction. And country X threatens country Z with these weapons. When country Z wants to reach the balance of nuclear terror and deter country X, country Y threatens country Z. You can extend this not only in the context of nuclear weapons but in many other areas. This understanding is where the biggest bottleneck in world politics begins, and the UNSC is one of the biggest instrument that protects this order.

 

[MMM-E]

Still, Iran military is in good shape if they go one by one (Turkey without NATO support)

Iran is weak country with outdated Army , Navy and Air Force
Iran lacks technology ....

Iran doesnt have modern conventional military capability .... only Turkish Air Force is enough for outdated Iranian Armed Forces


Iran can use paramilitary groups like EMEL , HASHDI SHABI , Hezbolshit , etc connected with and helping the official armed forces

even our proxy FSA kicked SAA+Iran+Hezbolshit in Syria
and in 2015 , Iran begged helping from Russia

Iran is nothing without Russia

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Iran is weak country with outdated Army , Navy and Air Force
Iran lacks technology ....

Iran doesnt have modern conventional military capability .... only Turkish Air Force is enough for outdated Iranian Armed Forces


Iran can use paramilitary groups like EMEL , HASHDI SHABI , Hezbolshit , etc connected with and helping the official armed forces

even our proxy FSA kicked SAA+Iran+Hezbolshit in Syria
and in 2015 , Iran begged helping from Russia

Iran is nothing without Russia

You're HYPERPOWER OF THE UNIVERSE no doubt lol they have strong ballistic missile base as well as has strong Air defense base but you're right about their Air Force/Navy and army

 

[MMM-E]

You're HYPERPOWER OF THE UNIVERSE no doubt lol they have strong ballistic missile base as well as has strong Air defense base but you're right about their Air Force/Navy and army

No backward Iran is HYPERPOWER OF THE UNIVERSE no doubt . lol


Still dreaming with Ballistic Missiles ..They thinks only backward Iran has missiles in the region
Türkiye maintained balance in the region about Ballistic Missiles

Turkiye has also all kinds of missiles with superior guidance capability to hit the targets with pinpoint accurracy ( below 3 m ) from 1.000+ km away

Turkish CENK MRBM which coverage all capitals in the region including Tehran , Tel Aviv , Cairo

And Iranian Air Defense can not match with even Turkish UCAV fleet armed with 150 , 180 , 200 , 250 , 280 , 700 km Missiles and turbojet powered kamikaze Drones

and 234 Turkish F-16s armed with thousands of Turkish NEB Bombs .... 1 NEB Bomb can destroy a Building

870 kg NEB Bomb has 480-500 kg warhead as like a Ballistic Missile

And NEB Bomb is far cheaper than 1.000+ km Ballistic Missile



GAME OVER for Iran ... Iran has no superiority in any field and no future

better worry about how to match with upcoming Turkish Air Force

Iran is HYPERPOWER OF THE UNIVERSE no doubt . lol

 

[White and Green with M/S]

No backward Iran is HYPERPOWER OF THE UNIVERSE no doubt . lol


Still dreaming with Ballistic Missiles ..They thinks only backward Iran has missiles in the region
Türkiye maintained balance in the region about Ballistic Missiles

Turkiye has also all kinds of missiles with superior guidance capability to hit the targets with pinpoint accurracy ( below 3 m ) from 1.000+ km away

Turkish CENK MRBM which coverage all capitals in the region including Tehran , Tel Aviv , Cairo
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And Iranian Air Defense can not match with even Turkish UCAV fleet armed with 150 , 180 , 200 , 250 , 280 , 700 km Missiles and turbojet powered kamikaze Drones

and 234 Turkish F-16s armed with thousands of Turkish NEB Bombs .... 1 NEB Bomb can destroy a Building
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870 kg NEB Bomb has 480-500 kg warhead as like a Ballistic Missile
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And NEB Bomb is far cheaper than 1.000+ km Ballistic Missile



GAME OVER for Iran ... Iran has no superiority in any field and no future

better worry about how to match with upcoming Turkish Air Force
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Iran is HYPERPOWER OF THE UNIVERSE no doubt . lol
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Here we go again without fighter escort your out of this universe Ucavs will be pile of trash Iran have layered Air defense systems your f16 will have be launch their missiles in a hurry or abandon their missiles if you will have MRBM Iran already have MRBM to cover Ankara/Istanbul etc etc

 

[MMM-E]

Here we go again without fighter escort your out of this universe Ucavs will be pile of trash Iran have layered Air defense systems your f16 will have be launch their missiles in a hurry or abandon their missiles if you will have MRBM Iran already have MRBM to cover Ankara/Istanbul etc etc

Even tiny TB-2 UCAVs with 8 km MAM-L laser guided munition destroyed 48 SAMs such as S300 , TOR , BUK , PANTSIR

Now Turkiye arming TB-2 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs with 150 , 180 , 200 , 250 , 280 , 700 km Missiles and turbojet powered kamikaze Drones to turn all AD Systems into scrap of metal


and Turkiye increase UCAV production capability to 700 units annually

Even India , Europe , Russia lacks this capability


......Stealth capability......
Also stealth UCAVs ANKA-3 and KIZILELMA on the way for deep strike capability to be undetected by enemy radars from long distance



GOKSUNGUR JEMSAH supersonic fake decoy Drone
Weight of less than 100 kg
Range of 300 km

it will be used to deceive and confuse the enemy air defense systems during the battle, and to consume their missiles by waking them early and causing them to fire incorrectly

low-cost decoy Drone for Suppression of Enemy Air Defense (SEAD) missions

American MALD
İsraeli TALD
Turkish GOKSUNGUR

Good luck to Enemy Air Defense Systems , They will need it
Turkish Defense Industry more than a match for backward Countries

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Even tiny TB-2 UCAVs with 8 km MAM-L laser guided munition destroyed 48 SAMs such as S300 , TOR , BUK , PANTSIR

Now Turkiye arming TB-2 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs with 150 , 180 , 200 , 250 , 280 , 700 km Missiles and turbojet powered kamikaze Drones to turn all AD Systems into scrap of metal


and Turkiye increase UCAV production capability to 700 units annually

Even India , Europe , Russia lacks this capability


......Stealth capability......
Also stealth UCAVs ANKA-3 and KIZILELMA on the way for deep strike capability to be undetected by enemy radars from long distance



GOKSUNGUR JEMSAH supersonic fake decoy Drone
Weight of less than 100 kg
Range of 300 km

it will be used to deceive and confuse the enemy air defense systems during the battle, and to consume their missiles by waking them early and causing them to fire incorrectly

low-cost decoy Drone for Suppression of Enemy Air Defense (SEAD) missions
View attachment 955186

American MALD
İsraeli TALD
Turkish GOKSUNGUR

Good luck to Enemy Air Defense Systems , They will need it
Turkish Defense Industry more than a match for backward Countries

Don't insult other countries everybody loves their countries

Few MRBMs is enough for Ankara/Istanbul etc etc lol

 

[MMM-E]

Don't insult other countries everybody loves their countries

Few MRBMs is enough for Ankara/Istanbul etc etc lol

Turkiye has also MRBM for Taheran

and 234 F-16s armed with thousands of NEB Bombs to turn Taheran into stone age .. lol

And NEB Bomb is 100 times cheaper than 1.000+ km Ballistic Missile