If India supports freedom in Crimea, why not in Kashmir?

[Vinayak Tiwari]

Based on the evidence of the video posted by another Indian ...

i also know about the incidence but do you have any evidence to prove that the majority of the the pakistan backed insurgents were from Kashmir ?

 

[BanglaBhoot]

i also know about the incidence but do you have any evidence to prove that the majority of the the pakistan backed insurgents were from Kashmir ?

We can only know the truth if India holds a referendum ...

 

[general_yermolov_stalin]

We can only know the truth if India holds a referendum ...

not interested.But yes expulsion of treasonous kashmiris is an option.

 

[FNFAL]

Other nations can do $hit about Kashmir. Its with us . Period.
Pakistani feelings.... i can understand, but a bangladeshi...wow

 

[Vinayak Tiwari]

We can only know the truth if India holds a referendum ...

well if we talk about a referendum , then it's only the decision of the Indian Government . Also , the separation of Kashmir is impossible from India because this would create a ruckus and more and more demands of independent states will be made (ASOM , KHALISTAN , MANIPUR etc.) and there'd be a sharp increase in terrorism . The government will definitely keep this in mind while taking any decision related to Kashmir Independence .

 

[SrNair]

A free and fair referendum will not happen without Kashmiri Pandits .And Pak infiltrators in Kashmir valleys are also a factor.
After all Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India.

If India supports freedom in Crimea, why not in Kashmir?

By Muhammad Faysal

The Express Tribune - March 29, 2014

Over the past week after the Russian annexation of Crimea, global politics have completely changed. The annexation which took place after a controversial ‘referendum’ shows that the aspirations of people are more powerful than politically drawn borders.
Yet, many political observers see the Russian backing of the referendum as damage control after Moscow lost its ally in former Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych after many weeks of protests.

India which is an important and old time ally of Russia, faces a new predicament and a new set of worries after the Crimean annexation, the dilemma being, do they back Russia – their oldest friend – or oppose it? Whichever decision it makes, India will be forced to confront the reality of secessionist movements in the northeast and a Kashmiri movement for independence.
For India, holding on to Kashmir has meant dismissing the calls of referendum by the people of Kashmir, at times even using disproportionate force which resulted in massacres and crackdown on protesters including minors.

Ironically, it was India that brought the case of Kashmir to the United Nations in 1949 after which the UN called for a plebiscite in Kashmir, both in Indian Kashmir and Pakistani Kashmir. India’s political stalwart and first Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru, promised the people of Kashmir a plebiscite in a broadcast from New Delhi in November 1948,

“We have declared that the fate of Kashmir is ultimately to be decided by the people. That pledge we have given, and the Maharaja has supported it, not only to the people of Kashmir but to the world. We will not, and cannot back out of it. We are prepared when peace and law and order have been established to have a referendum held under international auspices like the United Nations. We want it to be a fair and just reference to the people and we shall accept their verdict. I can imagine no fairer and more just offer.”

But India backed out after making this promise to the people of Kashmir and signing the UN resolution calling for a plebiscite in Kashmir. And now the official line is ‘Kashmir is an integral part of India’.Interestingly, they deny the war crimes committed in Kashmir by the Indian armed forces which sure doesn’t happen in any ‘integral part’. Just like the absolute mockery of justice in open and shut cases of rapes, massacres and enforced-disappearances, this claim of an ‘integral part’ is as hollow as its claim of ‘peace in Kashmir’ – peace which perhaps can be found in the pause between deaths of Kashmiris.

With the US calling for sanctions on Russia, it remains to be seen which side India will choose to be on. Will it choose to side with the west and lose a key ally in Russia – a long-term setback or side with its long-time ally Russia, essentially making it an international hypocrite?
Crimea has quite literally thrown a spanner in geo-politics. It is akin to the cold war where either you are with a country or against them. India chose to be non-aligned during the cold war but with its military progress and the possibility of becoming an economic superpower, this is no longer a choice that India has which further pushes it against the wall.

It is strange that the referendum happened in Crimea without any blood being spilled unlike Kashmir which has bled enough to give legitimacy to the calls of referendum and secession in the international polity. It is also ironic how India voted against Sri Lanka in a UN resolution indicting the island country for war crimes in Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) strongholds while India commits the same war crimes in Kashmir, with rampant impunity and with laws such as the Armed Forces (Special Powers) Act which gives its troops the licence to kill.

Referendum remains a national dream for Kashmiris. They have been waiting for it since the promise made by India and Pakistan and guaranteed by the UN in 1949. In 2008 and 2010, Kashmiris stepped out by the hundreds and thousands in peaceful rallies to call for a referendum. But it was met with brute force. Later, the Indian backed government jailed the freedom leadership, killed over 120 Kashmiri protestors most of whom were teenagers, banned SMS services and local media.

Is India, one of the largest democracies of the world, afraid that its ‘integral part’ will vote to be independent if it holds a referendum? Vladimir Putin thanked India for its position on Crimea in his speech after signing the treaty to accede Crimea into Russia. In his speech, he also questioned the US for supporting freedom but not in Crimea.

I would ask India the same question – if it supports freedom elsewhere, why not in Kashmir?
With the developments in Crimea and the NATO pull-out in Afghanistan, geo-politics may change into another cold war. But it still remains to be seen whether Kashmir will feature in these changes or whether the Kashmiri people will have to wait a little longer for freedom.
If only Kashmir had oil, things would have changed a long time back.

http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/21597/if-india-supports-freedom-in-crimea-why-not-in-kashmir/

For more on India's hegemonic and expansionist foreign policy read The India Doctrine -

The India Doctrine (1947-2007) | Mohammad Munshi - Academia.edu

There is no game with our national integrity .Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India

 

[BanglaBhoot]

well if we talk about a referendum , then it's only the decision of the Indian Government . Also , the separation of Kashmir is impossible from India because this would create a ruckus and more and more demands of independent states will be made (ASOM , KHALISTAN , MANIPUR etc.) and there'd be a sharp increase in terrorism . The government will definitely keep this in mind while taking any decision related to Kashmir Independence .

The will of the people should be respected. Isn't that why India supported Russia on Crimea?

There is no game with our national integrity .Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India

I beg to disagree. I think Kashmir and the Seven Sisters should be made separate from the Indian Union.

 

[SrNair]

The will of the people should be respected. Isn't that why India supported Russia on Crimea?



I beg to disagree. I think Kashmir and the Seven Sisters should be made separate from the Indian Union.

No matter what its takes we will protect our national integrity and prosperity.It is the duty of every Indian.
And India and its integrity is none of your business,Bangladeshi .After all BD independence is our favour in 1971.Jammu and Kashmir is the integral part of India.There is no question about seven sister states .Even their is no question in J&K .But thread is like that .So I replied pointwise.
From Kashmir to KanyaKumari,From Gujarat to Arunachal pradesh we are one.And we will protect our integrity

 

[Vinayak Tiwari]

@MBI Munshi sir , if the will of the people matters the most , then most of the people don't want any disintegration of the states

 

[BanglaBhoot]

@MBI Munshi sir , if the will of the people matters the most , then most of the people don't want any disintegration of the states

Most of the people where?

 

[Vinayak Tiwari]

Most of the people where?

INDIA

 

[BanglaBhoot]

INDIA

The people of Kashmir should decide without the interference of the rest of India ... Isn't that what just happened in Crimea?

 

[Yeti]

Kashmir is from a sanskrit word and is the abode of Shaivism and the land of Kashmiri pandits and Sufis not wahabi's. Kashmir is and always will be part of our culture and history no power can take our holy land from us otherwise we will launch a full scale war.

Kashmir is also the water bloodline for India, and the holiest site of Amarnath is in Kashmir. The Vedas speak of Kashmir, it is in our soul this is what people fail to understand lol you think Indian govt will give up Kashmir? lol you must be on drugs

 

[Vinayak Tiwari]

The people of Kashmir should decide without the interference of the rest of India ... Isn't that what just happened in Crimea?

well i think people of Indian (including Kashmir) should decide about the Independence not Pakistan , Bangladesh , China etc.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

well i think people of Indian (including Kashmir) should decide about the Independence not Pakistan , Bangladesh , China etc.

I agree. Let Kashmir have its plebiscite.