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If Balakot air strikes can win elections, IAF chief can become India's PM

Salaam

I rest my case.

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LOL.

This is the reality,

Pak army official unknowingly leak the causality count of its Terrorists Pak army higher officials while consoling the relatives of Jaish terrorists. They openly admits 200+ terrorists have been killed.



And yet you guys continue to ask India for "proof". I rest my case.
 
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lol.... he was telling the truth. (half truth)

Only that pilot was not Indian. RIP.
Loll.. He was telling half truth or full truth, you guys have been telling lies all along.. lolll

And no.. the other pilot should not rest in peace at all.. lolll
 
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Loll.. He was telling half truth or full truth, you guys have been telling lies all along.. lolll

And no.. the other pilot should not rest in peace at all.. lolll

We don't have to tell Lies, but your PA has good reasons to Lie. 100 Billion $ worth of lies.

https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/03/article/pakistani-army-moves-into-the-oil-business/

Pakistani Army moves into the oil business
The army’s $100 billion commercial empire covers industries including banking, cement and real estate

ByF.M. SHAKIL

The business conglomerate that is the Pakistani Army, which has fingers in multiple pies across the business spectrum, has now moved into the oil business.

Recent growth of businesses controlled by the powerful army has been spectacular. In 2016, for instance, the Pakistan Senate was informed that the army’s commercial wings, namely the Fauji (Army) Foundation, the Shaheen Foundation, the Bahria Foundation, the Army Welfare Trust and the Defense Housing Authorities, owned around 50 business concerns and housing property worth over $20 billion. Three years later, this number now runs into the hundreds of businesses with net investment reportedly exceeding $100 billion.

Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa, a Pakistani military scientist and author of the acclaimed book “Military Inc.” told the Asia Times: “The army’s total stake in private businesses in the country is more than $100 billion. They are underestimating their investment and disguising their involvement through public sector organizations like (the) National Logistic Cell, Special Communications Organization and Frontier Works Organization, which are exempt from annual audit and scrutiny.”

She said one of the leading military-business conglomerates in Pakistan was the Fauji (Army) Foundation. In 2005, she recalled, the elected parliament was snubbed by the Ministry of Defense after it questioned a controversial business transaction that undersold sugar mills.

Siddiqa revealed that “Milbus-related” resources do not follow the norms of accountability prescribed for government institutions: “The term ‘Milbus’ refers to military capital that is used for the personal benefit of the military fraternity, especially the officer cadre, but is neither recorded nor part of the defense budget. In this respect, it is a completely independent genre of capital.”

Dr. Siddiqa, who also serves as a research associate at the SOAS South Asia Institute, University of London, said that military involvement in socio-economic activities undermines professional competence by focusing on non-military commercial activities instead of devoting themselves to core military duties and responsibilities.

The newest expansion of army business is a move into the oil sector. It is in addition to dozens of businesses the military already runs in Pakistan including companies in the spheres of banking, food, retail superstores, cement, real estate, housing, construction, private security services, and insurance.

The Frontier Oil Company (FOC), a subsidiary of the army-managed Frontier Works Organization (FWO), has now been granted a contract for the construction of a 470km-long oil pipeline estimated to cost $370 million.

Ironically, the Economic Coordination Committee (ECC), which granted the contract to the FOC in mid-February, violated its own decision made in April last year. The then prime minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi had approved the granting of the contract for the white oil pipeline to the government entity Inter-State Gas System (ISGS). The former government of Abbasi was of the view that since ISGS was already involved in the execution of the proposed TAPI and North-South pipelines, they should have no difficulties in the execution of Machike-Taru Jabba High-Speed Diesel and Motor Spirit pipeline.

An official of the state-run ISGS told Asia Times upon the condition of anonymity that the ECC failed to honor the decision of the previous government that awarded the pipeline contract to ISGS.

“It is strange that the Oil & Gas Regulatory Authority (OGRA) granted a construction license to FOC well before time without informing the previous government, while the ISGS, which is part of the petroleum ministry, is yet to be considered for a license,” the official said. He pointed out that OGRA violated the cabinet decision of April last year in which the ECC empowered the federal cabinet to vet and approve the proposals for oil pipeline projects. Whatsmore, he said, “The previous government had approved the pipeline at a cost of $280 million which is $90 million less than the projection of FOC, but the contract was still awarded to FOC.”

Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) Secretary General and former Senator Farhatullah Babar told Asia Times, “The parliamentary proceedings show that all is not well with the manner in which business contracts are awarded to military-run enterprises.” He claimed that lucrative toll collections at motorways was acquired by the Frontier Works Organization on a long-term basis without inviting bids. Babar said that massive involvement of the army in non-military business activities has attracted the attention of Parliament as well as of the Supreme Court.

“The military’s institutional strengths and advantages are well known. Backed by these strengths the military commercial wings always use unfair means to compete with other competitors and acquire commercial enterprises and get contracts in a non-transparent manner. Potentially it will have negative consequences for business as a whole because private businesses (are not competing on) a level playing field.” Babar added.
 
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We don't have to tell Lies, but your PA has good reasons to Lie. 100 Billion $ worth of lies.

https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/03/article/pakistani-army-moves-into-the-oil-business/

Pakistani Army moves into the oil business
The army’s $100 billion commercial empire covers industries including banking, cement and real estate

ByF.M. SHAKIL

The business conglomerate that is the Pakistani Army, which has fingers in multiple pies across the business spectrum, has now moved into the oil business.

Recent growth of businesses controlled by the powerful army has been spectacular. In 2016, for instance, the Pakistan Senate was informed that the army’s commercial wings, namely the Fauji (Army) Foundation, the Shaheen Foundation, the Bahria Foundation, the Army Welfare Trust and the Defense Housing Authorities, owned around 50 business concerns and housing property worth over $20 billion. Three years later, this number now runs into the hundreds of businesses with net investment reportedly exceeding $100 billion.

Dr. Ayesha Siddiqa, a Pakistani military scientist and author of the acclaimed book “Military Inc.” told the Asia Times: “The army’s total stake in private businesses in the country is more than $100 billion. They are underestimating their investment and disguising their involvement through public sector organizations like (the) National Logistic Cell, Special Communications Organization and Frontier Works Organization, which are exempt from annual audit and scrutiny.”

She said one of the leading military-business conglomerates in Pakistan was the Fauji (Army) Foundation. In 2005, she recalled, the elected parliament was snubbed by the Ministry of Defense after it questioned a controversial business transaction that undersold sugar mills.

Siddiqa revealed that “Milbus-related” resources do not follow the norms of accountability prescribed for government institutions: “The term ‘Milbus’ refers to military capital that is used for the personal benefit of the military fraternity, especially the officer cadre, but is neither recorded nor part of the defense budget. In this respect, it is a completely independent genre of capital.”

Dr. Siddiqa, who also serves as a research associate at the SOAS South Asia Institute, University of London, said that military involvement in socio-economic activities undermines professional competence by focusing on non-military commercial activities instead of devoting themselves to core military duties and responsibilities.

The newest expansion of army business is a move into the oil sector. It is in addition to dozens of businesses the military already runs in Pakistan including companies in the spheres of banking, food, retail superstores, cement, real estate, housing, construction, private security services, and insurance.

The Frontier Oil Company (FOC), a subsidiary of the army-managed Frontier Works Organization (FWO), has now been granted a contract for the construction of a 470km-long oil pipeline estimated to cost $370 million.

Ironically, the Economic Coordination Committee (ECC), which granted the contract to the FOC in mid-February, violated its own decision made in April last year. The then prime minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi had approved the granting of the contract for the white oil pipeline to the government entity Inter-State Gas System (ISGS). The former government of Abbasi was of the view that since ISGS was already involved in the execution of the proposed TAPI and North-South pipelines, they should have no difficulties in the execution of Machike-Taru Jabba High-Speed Diesel and Motor Spirit pipeline.

An official of the state-run ISGS told Asia Times upon the condition of anonymity that the ECC failed to honor the decision of the previous government that awarded the pipeline contract to ISGS.

“It is strange that the Oil & Gas Regulatory Authority (OGRA) granted a construction license to FOC well before time without informing the previous government, while the ISGS, which is part of the petroleum ministry, is yet to be considered for a license,” the official said. He pointed out that OGRA violated the cabinet decision of April last year in which the ECC empowered the federal cabinet to vet and approve the proposals for oil pipeline projects. Whatsmore, he said, “The previous government had approved the pipeline at a cost of $280 million which is $90 million less than the projection of FOC, but the contract was still awarded to FOC.”

Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) Secretary General and former Senator Farhatullah Babar told Asia Times, “The parliamentary proceedings show that all is not well with the manner in which business contracts are awarded to military-run enterprises.” He claimed that lucrative toll collections at motorways was acquired by the Frontier Works Organization on a long-term basis without inviting bids. Babar said that massive involvement of the army in non-military business activities has attracted the attention of Parliament as well as of the Supreme Court.

“The military’s institutional strengths and advantages are well known. Backed by these strengths the military commercial wings always use unfair means to compete with other competitors and acquire commercial enterprises and get contracts in a non-transparent manner. Potentially it will have negative consequences for business as a whole because private businesses (are not competing on) a level playing field.” Babar added.


Lolll irrelevant to paste here..

We are watching how you guys are lying all along.. from Balakot till today.. We are just enjoying these moments..

One day, your media says 300-400, second day, your army says they have destroyed the targets but no clue on the number of people died.. one day it's 1000 kgs bomb, other day it's spice bomb... one day it's shahzaz ud din, another day it;s another ud din.. one day it's "we crossed the loc", another day it's "we didn't cross LoC" one day it's no plane lost.. another day we have lost one Mig.. lollll

:D
 
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Lolll irrelevant to paste here..

We are watching how you guys are lying all along.. from Balakot till today.. We are just enjoying these moments..

One day, your media says 300-400, second day, your army says they have destroyed the targets but no clue on the number of people died.. one day it's 1000 kgs bomb, other day it's spice bomb... one day it's shahzaz ud din, another day it;s another ud din.. one day it's "we crossed the loc", another day it's "we didn't cross LoC" one day it's no plane lost.. another day we have lost one Mig.. lollll

:D

Its only irrelevant to those who choose to be blind.

The only thing PA is good at is propaganda and lies, especially to the pakistani public. It knows how to manage the show in pakistan as long as some dummy head the govt.

The last time India had to bury a couple of hundreds paksitani soldiers in kargil because the AP refused to acknowledge them.

Till date not a single pakistani politician or PA has asked for the body back to be reburied in pakistan with state honors. But, the billion $ business empire goes on uninterrupted.

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Its only irrelevant to those who choose to be blind.

The only thing PA is good at is propaganda and lies, especially to the pakistani public. It knows how to manage the show in pakistan as long as some dummy head the govt.

The last time India had to bury a couple of hundreds paksitani soldiers in kargil because the AP refused to acknowledge them.

Till date not a single pakistani politician or PA has asked for the body back to be reburied in pakistan with state honors. But, the billion $ business empire goes on uninterrupted.
Again irrelevant.. lolll...

The fact is that, there were two more parachutes, one landed in IoK.. lollll the other one died in our custody...

One plane crashed in our territory, one in yours.. we have shown ours, you haven't.. :D
 
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Again irrelevant.. lolll...

The fact is that, there were two more parachutes, one landed in IoK.. lollll the other one died in our custody...

One plane crashed in our territory, one in yours.. we have shown ours, you haven't.. :D

Here is a simple question for you.

Where is the photo of the "Indian pilot" who died in your custody ? ? ? :coffee:

Why has that become a state secret ?
 
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Here is a simple question for you.

Where is the photo of the "Indian pilot" who died in your custody ? ? ? :coffee:

Why has that become a state secret ?

Why should we care if all your pilots, and aircrafts are accounted for? (By the way, even Abhinandan wasn't missing until the whole world saw his face on screens)..

One got leaked, otherwise, we wouldn't have disclosed him in our custody too.. you know what I mean.. :D
 
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Why should we care if all your pilots, and aircrafts are accounted for? (By the way, even Abhinandan wasn't missing until the whole world saw his face on screens)..

One got leaked, otherwise, we wouldn't have disclosed him in our custody too.. you know what I mean.. :D

No, I don't know what you mean.

If any of our men were missing, his family members would be creating a ruckus out here with the opposition party raking up the matter day in day out.

That is one of the things in being in a working democracy. There is Accountability.
 
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No, I don't what you mean.

If any of our men were missing, his family members would be creating a ruckus out here with the opposition party raking up the matter day in day out.

That is one of the things in being in a working democracy. There is Accountability.

Have Kulbhushan Yadav's family members ever created a ruckus? Has media ever conducted a detailed interview of his family?
 
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LOL.

This is the reality,

Pak army official unknowingly leak the causality count of its Terrorists Pak army higher officials while consoling the relatives of Jaish terrorists. They openly admits 200+ terrorists have been killed.



And yet you guys continue to ask India for "proof". I rest my case.

Fake video.

The video is clearly dubbed with Urdu/Hindi audio that replaced audio of the officer. It is too easy understand that audio is dubbed on officer's voice.

Also the guys in the background are talking in Pashto while the fact is Balakot is a hazara area and they don't speak pashto

Another lie of Sanghis
 
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Have Kulbhushan Yadav's family members ever created a ruckus? Has media ever conducted a detailed interview of his family?

LOL... are you kidding me ? :lol:

1. We forced the pakistani Govt. to arrange for a meeting of Him with his Wife and Mother.

2. We forced the pakistani govt. to suspend the death sentence via the International courts.

3. Even as we speak we are fighting his case in the international court.

There is no need for his family to create a Ruckus. We (India) are treating him as a hero and WE are the one creating a ruckus in pakistan and in intentional arena.
 
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There is zero doubt that IAF shot down a two seater PAF aircraft. IAF suggest it was a F-16

Pakistani citizens of the location themselves has admitted that they saw 3 pilots descend. One of the was mistakenly identified as a "sikh" who was caught and beaten up. The civilian even has blood on his dress which belonged to the "captured pilot".



As to the identity of this mysterious PAF pilot, it could probably be Wing Co.Hyder Shahbaz Ali , the CO of PAF's 19th Sqn "Sherdils".

This is the pilot mistaken to be a Sikh by the mob at Horran Kotla in Azad Kashmir and lynched."Shahzaz" who was identified earlier could actually be "Shahbaz".


This too is a lie that sanghis came up with just yesterday

Pilot is very much alive and is in USA for his course:


There is zero proof that a F16 was shot down. I challenge all the sanghis in the world to come with a proof that a F16 was shot down.
 
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This too is a lie that sanghis came up with just yesterday

Pilot is very much alive and is in USA for his course:


LOL.... he is in "US " for his course ? sound like a convenient excuse for his absence.

Why don't your journalist follow this lead and take his interview and put us on the spot ?

Either way, we will continue to search for that missing pilot and F-16. And its just a matter of time when both are found. :agree:
 
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LOL.... he is in "US " for his course ? sound like a convenient excuse for his absence.

What absence? He isn't absent. He is in USA just like many other officers. There is no absence of him anywhere.

Why don't your journalist follow this lead and take his interview and put us on the spot ?

Because our journalist know that you sanghis lie 24/7. You lie and die with your lies. If not raping woman than you sanghis are busy lying.

After shahzaz lie this is a new one that you have come up with. We have cleared he is alive. Prove that he isn't.

A random picture from a TV program isn't a prove that he is not alive

Either way, we will continue to search for that missing pilot and F-16. And its just a matter of time when both are found. :agree:

You sanghis would come with more lies. We would easily refute all of them like before.
 
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