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4 type 054a frigates with 4 ada class corvettes will be great.
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Why not?
Since we are talking about an "improved" F22P. I see no reason why an improved F22p wont serve us well. Just need to upgrade the AAW capabilities. May be go for 16 cell VLS for HQ16?
Type 52 is a destroyer, we are not looking at them. Type 54 can be a possibility as it can be made to provide better AAW capability.
Why not?
Since we are talking about an "improved" F22P. I see no reason why an improved F22p wont serve us well. Just need to upgrade the AAW capabilities. May be go for 16 cell VLS for HQ16?
Type 52 is a destroyer, we are not looking at them. Type 54 can be a possibility as it can be made to provide better AAW capability.
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After corvettes we should go for some frigate deals, but once Corvettes are started to be assembled in Pakistan I don't think we shall be in position to start any other big project. We should look towards China or UK. May purchase few second hand frigates go for complete overhaul not patch work. We may complete this project also under guidance of STM same as being done in case of Agosta 90s.
I have a question for senior members can HQ16 semi active missile and shall require Illumination also so can we upgrade our existing F22P frigates with them in VLS mode. ( space available or not).
Further another area which is neglected is anti stealth capability either absent in case of F21 frigate or short range in case of F21 frigates. Further how much useful is single OHP for PN.
Can you provide the source?
If true then Indian should be in mourning.
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FYI Generals / Admirals are often pushed in the wrong direction by politicians having their own agendas. Case in point is acquisition of 214 class subs from Germany which are best in its class and zardari govt pushed towards china for their own gains. Acquisition of AWACs from china instead of Swedwn SAAB is another example even when PAF wasn't happy with it.I am sick and tired of threads like this that we are close to sign this or that. Don't make fun of yourselves. We are only close to bulshitting our nation and that's also on the tax payers money. In last twenty seven years we only bought handful new f16s and made few jf17s.
Yes you can say generals are close buying another expensive plot at the prime location, this is the only thing they are best at.
FYI Generals / Admirals are often pushed in the wrong direction by politicians having their own agendas. Case in point is acquisition of 214 class subs from Germany which are best in its class and zardari govt pushed towards china for their own gains. Acquisition of AWACs from china instead of Swedwn SAAB is another example even when PAF wasn't happy with it.
FYI Generals / Admirals are often pushed in the wrong direction by politicians having their own agendas. Case in point is acquisition of 214 class subs from Germany which are best in its class and zardari govt pushed towards china for their own gains. Acquisition of AWACs from china instead of Swedwn SAAB is another example even when PAF wasn't happy with it.
Upgraded F-22P's will be much alike Type 54A no ? and after retiring 5 Type 21's we will have plenty of Sailors that we need to trained for new Ships ..I have this in mind That PN is going for I-2400 Version of Ada Class which has 16X VLS Air Defense and its slightly bigger than Basic Ada Class ..
none of our Surface Fleet will survive 2 days in front of Mighty IN if we don't have dedicated AAW capability Destroyers or heavy Frigates ..
How?Type 54 will be much better then the F22P improved Frigates improve the one which we already have and if Navy wants more F-22P frigate what are they waiting for they can be build in Karachi Shipyard but still there was a news that Navy is looking for Frigates Options
Type 54 or Type 57 that is what PN should get with corvettes from Turkey and 2-3 Type 52 Destroyers
How?
The armaments are very similar to begin with, except for the SAM system and volume search radar. If you stick a Mk41 with 32 ESSM or a Sylver with 32 SeaCeptor on F22P, that problem is solved. If you then slap on e.g. a Thales Smart-S mk2, there is great equivalence.
Source for the 4 new F22Ps?2017 will witness of both deals
Another 4 advanced F22 P will be made under new contract between China and Pakistan
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Cuz they are Russian. Why can't we get anything Russian? We all know whyWhy don't we buy Russian lider class FRIGATES recently Srilanka bought them on credit
LOL 2 days it wont even survive 1 day in front of Indian Navy... we are so much behind when it comes to Navy