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The writer very aptly points out that the uprising didn't have a single leader. Geelani was organizing his own Processions, Mirwaiz was giving his sermons from the mosque (which India easily curfewed out to visitors), Yasin Malik managed to get himself arrested all the time.

I think all the bigwigs of Kashmir need to get an input from their intellectuals as they go. Passive Aggressive stone pelting will just embarrass the Indians which they can easily offset by giving Britain and America a few billions in deals to quieten them down.

IMO they need to devise a strategy that steals away governance from India and Mr. Firdous's idea of non-cooperation may do that. At present setting up a Kashmiri Azad government may not be possible but if given the chance the entire people can make the Indian government irrelevant.

Bypassing the Indian system will automatically lead to the creation of a Kashmiri system.

Weather plays a big part in these pattern of Kashmir uprisings. As the months get warmer it is easier to mobilize the people against the Indian state. So you know the next uprising is sure to come. Let's build an ideas database on how to take on India's illegal occupation effectively.

Quit Kashmir to Quiet Kashmir Lastupdate:- Sat, 11 Dec 2010 18:30:00 GMT GreaterKashmir.com

The transition from ‘Quit Kashmir’ to the present phase of quiet Kashmir is quite a mind-boggling journey. What was considered to be so near painfully proved to be too far. Once again Kashmiri nation failed to break the jinx. Resistance in Kashmir has a long and chequered history. Since 2008 it has fallen into a trap of a set pattern. Uprising of few months is followed by a period of a superficial calm, as if nothing had happened in the turbulent preceding months. Within a gap of few months an act of suppression triggers the uprising again. After the failure of every uprising a blame game gets initiated, people castigate leaders for squandering the opportunity. And leaders accuse people for lack of commitment. Who is to be blamed for the repeated failures, pro freedom leadership or people on the large? It is such a messy and complicated situation wherein no single factor can be held responsible for the miscarriage.

Some truths about Kashmir are very well known and are ingrained in Kashmiri psychology. In order to keep the record straight these are worth repeating. Even the worst critic of Azadi is forced to acknowledge that sentiment of Azadi is widespread in Jammu and Kashmir. In the modern history of resistance in Kashmir, generations since 1931 continue to make huge sacrifices while chasing the dream of Azadi. Subverting the urge for Azadi temporarily may be possible. However to wipe out the sentiment forever is simply impossible. India has tried and continues to do so but in vain. After the summer uprising, some so called security analysts may like to construe eerie calm as return of peace. In reality it is a stalemate: India has failed to subjugate Kashmir fully; similarly people of Kashmir again have not been able to win the freedom. Complete subjugation is out of question, a fresh uprising is most likely. It is not the question of how and why but when? But will the future uprising (s) be different from the present and the previous ones? Will Kashmir be able to reach its cherished destination anytime in future? Or else it will be failure again and again; it depends upon our collective attitude. Are we ready to learn from our mistakes and also to make amends?

Summer unrest without any doubt has proved the vitality of the sentiment; it is also true that the new generation is fully committed with the cause of Azadi. The sacrifices of young and innocent have rejuvenated the sagging hopes. It is also true that Kashmir dispute again reverberated on the international scene. After a long time conflict on Kashmir grabbed the attention of the international headlines, more and more people have become aware of the Kashmir problem. Even a section of Indian public, if not sympathetic yet with the Kashmiri cause, is uncomfortable with the gross human right violations being perpetrated with indemnity by Indian forces in Kashmir. By all standards it is an achievement, if the Indian public is toady ready to condemn the human right violations, tomorrow they may even force Indian government to revisit its morally unjustifiable position on Kashmir. In spite of these achievements, the summer unrest does not qualify to be an organized response. It was an uprising but chaotic one, rudderless and at times leaderless. Despite many claimants nobody organized it. As a matter of fact even the proponents of Quit Kashmir’ were amazed for the response, resistance could generate from the ground.

It is human to jump to conclusions. A section of the society is inclined to castigate the five-month long period of suppression, sacrifices and turmoil as complete wastage of effort. On the opposite the advocates of ‘Quit Kashmir’ have the penchant to declare a victory, where their exist none. If lessons are learnt hard, nothing will go waste. It’s a continuum; sacrifices rendered up till now will turn out to be a good investment, for the well earned Azadi. And God forbid if egoistic leaders are unable to reform individually and also learn from the past mistakes even after tens of thousands Kashmiri sacrificing, Kashmir can never win the freedom.

First of all, ‘Quit Kashmir’ was not a well thought out properly organized resistance movement? Objectives of ‘Quit Kashmir’ were highly ambitious, and in the long run resistance itself has proved to be unsustainable. Casualty driven indefinite policy of hartals cannot force India to ‘Quit’ Kashmir, it should have been known to the crazy characters who devised the so called calendar policy. Even at the height of unrest, sate was convinced that the Quit Kashmir’ campaign sooner or latter will ultimately fizzle out, therefore administration was just buying time. Why unimaginative leadership is still unable to understand, a continued hartal for ten years is not going to harm Indian economic interests in any manner. On the opposite shutting life for the good we only destroyed our economy as well as the education of our children. The Hurriyat (G) leadership has developed a bizarre hostage mentality. Whenever questioned about the efficacy of prolonged shutdowns, in order to shut-up their critics their standard response is to ask for the alternatives to the Hartals. At the first place why the critics should be asked for the alternatives? Hurriyat (G) has to convince the masses about the efficacy of the methodologies it adopts to carry-on the resistance. The hartals have not yielded the desired results in anyway. It is the responsibility of the pro-freedom leadership to devise the alternative mechanisms to make it difficult for India to maintain its hold on Kashmir, endlessly.

Passive hartals without people’s mobilization, and bereft of any significant organization on ground will never force India to leave Kashmir. Only an active non-cooperation peaceful prolonged resistance can loosen India’s grip on Kashmir. Non-cooperation movement is not an emotional response. It is a way of life based upon an ideology. Guided by the principle of truth and justice and backed by political mobilization and solidarity, a non-cooperation resistance eventually triumphs over the oppression. However India’s successful social engineering project has destroyed the political unity of Jammu and Kashmir. Conjoined with the social engineering the inherent materialistic lust of Kashmiri people has made easy for India to strengthen its stranglehold on Kashmir. Therefore the challenges for the resistance are manifold. In order to launch a resistance based upon non-cooperation, pro freedom leadership will not only have to rebuild the political unity but also to resurrect moral fabric of the society. By any stretch of imagination it is a tall order.


More than the mechanics it is also important to understand the ambit of possibilities and geo-politics of the time. Kashmir freedom movement as an extension of Pakistan and instrument of its foreign policy to settle scores with India will never succeed in attaining its objectives. Unless a mature indigenous leadership which is not on the payroll of either Islamabad or New Delhi emerges, dispute resolution on Kashmir is simply not possible. Kashmiri leadership will have to act as a bridge between India and Pakistan. While working for an amicable conflict resolution the interests of all three, Kashmir India and Pakistan are to be safeguarded; otherwise a solution simply is not possible. Dismemberment of India is not Kashmiri objective, but Kashmir also has to recover its lost space and glory. At the same time Pakistan too has legitimate interests; those have to be factored in while working for a dispute resolution.
 
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we know the credibility of the source.

btw, I do not believe 'those people' will protest peacefully.
 
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we know the credibility of the source.

btw, I do not believe 'those people' will protest peacefully.

This newspaper is more inclined towards India. so i wonder why would doubt the credibility of a pro-India paper besides what is the paper is saying in the above is also support to India than Kashmiris.

Anyway Kashmiris should start using all kinds of opportunities to protest against Indian occupation of their country.
 
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The best option for people in the valley is to peacefully deman more autonomy from GoI but it will have to be within the Indian constitution.

Following could and should be acceptable to GoI:

1. Greater autonomy for Kashmir.

2. Removal of AFSPA/PSA from civilian areas or areas where there's little militancy left.

3. Economic packages, incentive to local industry such as tourism etc.

4. Incentives to those willing to shed the path of militancy/violence.

Anything else will just fizzle out just like the recent wave of protests. We're willing to wait it out.

No redrawing of borders is possible now.
 
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The best option for people in the valley is to peacefully deman more autonomy from GoI but it will have to be within the Indian constitution.

Following could and should be acceptable to GoI:

1. Greater autonomy for Kashmir.


2. Removal of AFSPA/PSA from civilian areas or areas where there's little militancy left.

3. Economic packages, incentive to local industry such as tourism etc.

4. Incentives to those willing to shed the path of militancy/violence.

Anything else will just fizzle out just like the recent wave of protests. We're willing to wait it out.

No redrawing of borders is possible now.

Frankly speaking I'm against giving more autonomy to the region. What is required in Kashmir is greater integration to the Indian Union. The dissidents are more influenced by our neighbour than us.

Allow more people to people contact with INDIANS, allow Indians to purchase land in Kashmir and encourage Kashmiris to explore opportunities in the rest of the country.
 
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we know the credibility of the source.

btw, I do not believe 'those people' will protest peacefully.
Greater Kashmir is based out of India's side of the Kashmir dispute and of close to 10 years of following this newspaper I find it to be one of the most unbiased and reliable source of the actual situation in ground.

It is Kashmir's Dawn or The Hindu.
 
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I'm thinking along the lines - can pseudo Indian services be set up out of the direct control of Indians in Kashmir?

More autonomy is good, and it should be sought along the lines that it can be used in the future against Indians. Get independent telecomm services out of the purview of the central authority in India. A Kashmiri only postal service and dare I say it, courts and law and order enforcers out of the bounds of Indians.

Minimizing Indian control on civil matters would ultimately lead to harder enforcement against an Azadi movement.

Taking autonomy does not mean you stop criticizing India or not demand Azaadi.

Currently whats happening is that India is trying to keep the situation on ground sufficiently entangled so that the local population can never organize itself against India. So getting India to back-off a bit would prove profitable in the long run.

Meanwhile the armed separatist struggle will go on, so India would willingly relinquish control. Separatists don't even have to fight the elections, just make sure Indian laws allow the creation of services that will be in their control.
 
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I hope, Pakistanis stop using such serious words as uprising, genocide, Bosnia while describing Kashmir. Either they have formed preconceived notions about India or their media is feeding false news

Except for some fringe elements, Kashmiries are much better integrated with India than most Pakistanis think or give credit to and I have scores of examples from my real life to prove it
 
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One can go on and on about this issue, as we have in the past. But to me, the situation can be reduced to a simple set of facts.

1) MOST IMPORTANTLY, we know that there is a mutually acceptable solution that has been discussed and agreed to at the highest levels. However, we also know that there was a last minute sabotage and the announcement could not occur (during President Musharraf's time). This has been confirmed by President Musharraf and Minister Jaswant Singh.

2) Since 1947, if you believe the Indians, the demographic trends in Kashmir have actually made it more muslim today than it was in 1947 - majority then and now - but a stronger majority today. Moreover, while I don't want to get into the allegations of how this happened, suffice to say that this demographic shift happened *due* to the conflict. In other words, if you project from the trends of the past 63 years you come to the conclusion that the minority population in Kashmir that felt itself a part of India has become an even smaller minority.

3) The conflict will definitely be perpetuated into the next generation as is evidenced by the average age of participants in protests against the Indian "presence", to avoid a stronger or more alienating term. Again, I don't mean this in a rhetorical sense. This is a fact that is both alluded to in this article, and is also quite visible in the extensive documentation and coverage of protests and exchanges between the pro-freedom kashmiris and the indian armed forces.

4) Kashmir IS a problem, and a HUGE one. As the article points out, at times there are stalemates, but by definition, a stalemate is simply a state of conflict. Not a conclusion or solution. Also, from #1, we know that despite jingoism and rhetoric practiced by patriotic indians (not blaming them - understand their position), the indian government knows that there is something to be solved. In other words, when you get the usual, "there is no problem", "kashmir is a part of india" etc. etc., those positions are emotional, reactionary and nothing more. If the Indian government at the highest levels has worked out a compromise, then obviously, the end result of that compromise is different to the status quo. Otherwise, what constitutes the compromise?? Thus, the "there is no problem" position is deconstructed by this fact alone. Moreover, we also know that the closest description of this "secret solution" has been the short phrase, "making borders irrelevant". This is *incredibly* important to understand because this is a precursor to the argument Asim makes in his post above.

5) Kashmir is internationalized. Forget about whether you have tripartite talks or whether you involve the UN. Forget about whether you have American, Chinese or Russian mediation or simply backdoor diplomacy between India and Pakistan. Forget the UN resolutions or the Simla agreement. The fact is that Kashmir is not a local problem. It is a global problem. Just google "nuclear flashpoint" and see the results you get. Google "Kashmir" and you see washingtonpost referencing it as one of the major international conflicts on the first page of results, along with Somalia, Afghanistan and so on. Ask an average educated and globally aware American or European what Kashmir is and the answer is going to involve some description of the conflict... the words "India" "Pakistan" "war" "dispute" "conflict" are likely to be used in some order. So, in real terms, the Kashmir dispute is a nuclear flashpoint which is of monumental impact to the WORLD at large - not just Kashmir, Pakistan and India. AND, Kashmir is an international dispute as far as the PSYCHE of the educated, global citizen is concerned. It doesn't matter that Holbrooke soft-pedalled on Kashmir after the Indians were up in arms on the official position the USG took on his agenda. What matters is that Obama, Holbrooke and the rest of the USG thought that a resolution to Kashmir is something they should get involved in, encourage both sides to resolve and most importantly, that they saw their own interests being impacted by this dispute. From another standpoint, China is a party to the dispute automatically, in as much as India holds the position that Aksai Chin is Indian territory. Thus, there are at least 4 participants in this conflict - on the ground - and that happens to involve almost half the world's population what with China and India both being large and populous.

So, Kashmir is very much a problem, very much a part of the international conversation & very much a long-term issue. Whether we in Pakistan, India or Kashmir like it or not, it will continue to be seen as a source of instability for India and Pakistan, as a cause of conflict between Pakistan and India, and as a nuclear flashpoint. It is in everyone's interest to accept that this is an issue, focus on a solution (which already exists), dress this gaping wound and hope that the future will heal the past. But the first step has to be taken, and that first step involves a level of leadership and political bravery on the part of the GoI and GoP to dust off and announce the solution President Musharraf and Minister Jaswant Singh have already shared glimpses of.
 
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continue with Palestine style stone throwing initifada.Militancy will reverse the all the popular support earned this summer .continue with stones and more stones.
 
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I hope, Pakistanis stop using such serious words as uprising, genocide, Bosnia while describing Kashmir. Either they have formed preconceived notions about India or their media is feeding false news

Except for some fringe elements, Kashmiries are much better integrated with India than most Pakistanis think or give credit to and I have scores of examples from my real life to prove it
If you are sure with ur claim of fringe elements then why are you afraid to conduct referendum.
 
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If you are sure with ur claim of fringe elements then why are you afraid to conduct referendum.

Pointless and off topic, but I'll humour you nevertheless.

India doesn't NEED to conduct a referendum. In case you haven't noticed, we are quite satisfied with the status quo. Sure, we'd like to liberated occupied Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan, but that is not practical right now.

It is Pakistan which harps about a referendum. So, why not conduct a referendum in the occupied territories? As TechLahore so eloquently mentioned 'internationalization', the international spotlight after this would be squarely focused on Kashmir rather than west of Pakistan. That would put tremendous pressure on India to conduct a referendum in J&K as well.
 
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It is Pakistan which harps about a referendum. So, why not conduct a referendum in the occupied territories? As TechLahore so eloquently mentioned 'internationalization', the international spotlight after this would be squarely focused on Kashmir rather than west of Pakistan. That would put tremendous pressure on India to conduct a referendum in J&K as well.

A referendum to determine national direction is done at a national level, not at a district or provincial level. It has to be done in all of Kashmir in order to be reflective of the will of the Kashmiri people, otherwise you would have meaningless and false results... sort of like having a presidential election for the US but only in the state of Texas. Has to be done all over.

I don't think a referendum is required to, as you put it, apply "pressure" on India. I give the Indian government enough credit that I believe they understand this is an issue that needs resolution. The missing ingredient is political initiative - and as I said earlier, bravery. It is never easy taking the lead in a compromise, but South Africa, Northern Ireland etc. have shown us that it can be done. The hopeful part of this conversation is that there IS a solution that both India and Pakistan agree to. The problem is that some people fear publicizing the solution because they are not sure how their domestic political constituency will react, and thus what will become of their own political future. In my view, whoever takes the first step and exhibits the necessary bravery in sharing the existing under-wraps solution with the people of the sub-continent, will become a hero for all times to come.
 
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Pointless and off topic, but I'll humour you nevertheless.

India doesn't NEED to conduct a referendum. In case you haven't noticed, we are quite satisfied with the status quo. Sure, we'd like to liberated occupied Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan, but that is not practical right now.

It is Pakistan which harps about a referendum. So, why not conduct a referendum in the occupied territories? As TechLahore so eloquently mentioned 'internationalization', the international spotlight after this would be squarely focused on Kashmir rather than west of Pakistan. That would put tremendous pressure on India to conduct a referendum in J&K as well.

Although Pakistan's official position is referendum, since ages even GoP has stopped harping on the referendum. It just want talks to return with India
 
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