IDEAS 2016 PREVIEW: HEAVY INDUSTRIES TAXILA WILL UNVEIL A NEW ARMOURED PERSONNEL CARRIER

[Zarvan]

In the lead-up to the International Defence Exhibition and Seminar (IDEAS), which will begin in Karachi on 22 November, Quwa will overview some of the scheduled events.

Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT) will unveil what it describes as “Pakistan’s first indigenous APC [armoured personnel carrier]” at IDEAS 2016. The form of this APC is not known, but there are multiple possibilities, at least considering the Pakistan Army’s known requirements and HIT’s competency base. In June, IHS Jane’s projected that a portion of Pakistan’s armament procurement funding – specifically $1.1 billion U.S. – could be committed towards a new APC. In other words, this could be a significant program.

HIT has extensive experience with the venerable and widely adopted M113 APC. The Talha, Saad, Hamza, and Sakb are each derived from the M113, so the notion that HIT’s next APC design would be based on the M113 should be expected. The Pakistan Army has extensive logistics infrastructure and experience in using M113-derived APCs, and the benefit of a new tracked APC line could be too marginal to warrant its induction – much less licensed production at HIT. That does not preclude HIT from swapping out the powerplant, upgrading (or adding) an electronics suite, and incorporating composite armour, but in the end, a ‘new’ tracked APC will ultimately draw its lineage from the M113.

If not a new tracked APC, HIT could be in the process of showcasing a wheeled APC. HIT did showcase the Dragoon, which is a wheeled APC based on the M113, but it does not appear that the Pakistan Army has opted for the Dragoon, at least in substantive numbers. In 2014, there was word that Pakistan could sign an agreement with NORINCO for the VN-1 8×8 wheeled APC with transfer-of-technology for domestic manufacturing. If an 8×8 wheeled APC is still being sought, NORINCO could see competition from South Africa’s Paramount Group (Mbombe 8) and Serbia’s Yugoimport SDPR (Lazar 2), among others.

http://quwa.org/2016/11/16/ideas-20...will-unveil-a-new-armoured-personnel-carrier/

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Hopeful to hear some deals signed.

 

[Zarvan]

Hopeful to hear some deals signed.

I am also hoping for few things but seeing history of IDEAS and also the way we procure weapons I am not so excited. IDEAS mainly to show our weapons to the world instead of signing deals or something else. We often prefer to quietly procure weapons even from China and Turkey.

 

[JamD]

Don't be surprised if this is just the Blitzkrieg MRAP. If the army selects it, it will be produced at HIT.

 

[Inception-06]

Don't be surprised if this is just the Blitzkrieg MRAP. If the army selects it, it will be produced at HIT.

What was the background and who was responsible for the Dragoon deal with the US ? I still can't understand, why PAKISTAN buys an APC without any armament, turret and did they even have done an intensive test and evaluation phase ?

 

[Muhammad Omar]

What kind of APC?

 

[Kompromat]

Hopefully not a disappointment.

 

[Jaam92]

This is better then old ones.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

I'm having a feeling it's gonna be VN-1 which will be produced Locally

 

[YeBeWarned]

I am excited for AK-2 ...

 

[JamD]

What was the background and who was responsible for the Dragoon deal with the US ? I still can't understand, why PAKISTAN buys an APC without any armament, turret and did they even have done an intensive test and evaluation phase ?

Frankly, I don't know.

 

[kaonalpha]

To all the fan boy's on this thread you have a disappointment rolling in around the corner.
1.Al-Khalid 2 is not coming
2.The local built MRAP is Hamza 8×8 which looks like as if welded in a hurry.
3.A new dragoon has been brought from HIT.
4.Streit group vehicular exhibit has been replaced with an American company.
5.Muhafiz 1 and 2 have arrived.
6. If your lucky you'll get to see a few packed in the container surprises.at expo centre karachi.
Bell helicopters exhibit is specially worth visiting.

Those who complained regarding POF having a smaller exhibit in 2014 will now appreciate our hard efforts.
Plus those who complained about food outlets can now indulge in a variety of much Better,Faster and affordable food outlets which will based exclusively in a entire hall purely dedicated to those who have nothing better but to get souvenirs and enjoy selfie at exhibits.

 

[optimisticlad]

To all the fan boy's on this thread you have a disappointment rolling in around the corner.
1.Al-Khalid 2 is not coming
2.The local built MRAP is Hamza 8×8 which looks like as if welded in a hurry.
3.A new dragoon has been brought from HIT.
4.Streit group vehicular exhibit has been replaced with an American company.
5.Muhafiz 1 and 2 have arrived.
6. If your lucky you'll get to see a few packed in the container surprises.at expo centre karachi.
Bell helicopters exhibit is specially worth visiting.

Those who complained regarding POF having a smaller exhibit in 2014 will now appreciate our hard efforts.
Plus those who complained about food outlets can now indulge in a variety of much Better,Faster and affordable food outlets which will based exclusively in a entire hall purely dedicated to those who have nothing better but to get souvenirs and enjoy selfie at exhibits.

What happened to dragoon?

 

[Zarvan]

To all the fan boy's on this thread you have a disappointment rolling in around the corner.
1.Al-Khalid 2 is not coming
2.The local built MRAP is Hamza 8×8 which looks like as if welded in a hurry.
3.A new dragoon has been brought from HIT.
4.Streit group vehicular exhibit has been replaced with an American company.
5.Muhafiz 1 and 2 have arrived.
6. If your lucky you'll get to see a few packed in the container surprises.at expo centre karachi.
Bell helicopters exhibit is specially worth visiting.

Those who complained regarding POF having a smaller exhibit in 2014 will now appreciate our hard efforts.
Plus those who complained about food outlets can now indulge in a variety of much Better,Faster and affordable food outlets which will based exclusively in a entire hall purely dedicated to those who have nothing better but to get souvenirs and enjoy selfie at exhibits.

Why not AL KHALID II ? How long HIT will take before revealing AK 2 ? Secondly we already have Hamza named APC. Dragoon we know about anything really new this time ? @kaonalpha

 

[kaonalpha]

Why not AL KHALID II ? How long HIT will take before revealing AK 2 ? Secondly we already have Hamza named APC. Dragoon we know about anything really new this time ? @kaonalpha

Hamza 8×8 . Is a product of a local Pakistani company.

What happened to dragoon?

Nothing got a new paint job.