IDEAS 2012 Pakistan International Defence (Nov 7-11)

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Your post is reflective of typical paranoid mind set of pakistanis " always looking over your shoulders" who is it? what are they doing type?. It is true, quality of institutions in any country is the mirror image of the quality of people it represent and u being one of those people tells us a lot. It is coz of that quality of people that one can not practice religion openly. Daylight murders of minorities like Hindus ,Christians and Shias are proof of that. OPEN rapes of innocent women, kidnappings and the list goes on. All this is happening with impunity. Its the law of the jungle my friend. And this is the pakistan these institutions have created for u and Pakistan army is the prime culprit of it , Obviously u think it.s good enough, well i have got a news for u, u deserve it enjoy it, I rest my case. By the way i find it amusing that u pick on my spelling. LOL

What speaks more of any person is the manner in which he presents himself. And you, my good man, aren't faring very well. That urge to reduce the cognitive dissonance born from one's complexes always wins. The higher one professes to be the more apparent the desperation. You fabricate to help you get on with it, you try to make yourself believe it, you hope others will fall for it too. The frown, the snubbing, the criticism, the 'holier than thou'... the works. The pretense, however, does not hold for long, if at all. Typical of one who amounts to naught. Festinger says its not your fault, you're scared. Pomp is how below par achieves mediocrity. pssst.........People can see right through you.


Now be a good boy and answer this:

It does make a big difference who you are because it shows the motives for your posts. Terrorist acts from within are very difficult to detect and prevent. The biggest one in recent years was 911 and as you are so keen to refer to the West so please tell me how many senior officers of CIA or FBI or Pentagon were held accountable for the attacks? Well the answer is a big zero and I rest my case. Same goes for the attacks in London or Mumbai. In case of 911 the attackers were not even insiders as is the case in Pakistan. In case of Pakistan, the most successful attack was against Mehran and the Base Commander was court martialed. Both the attacks on GHQ and Kamra failed to meet their objectives despite some initial successes of the attacker so the security structure worked. And Pakistan Army does not claim to be the best in the world. Lastly your story about the Colonel sending the officer to get his phone fixed is total BS and I can prove it. Please also work on your spellings before your criticise others for "mediocresy" in every "faced" of life.

 

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What speaks more of any person is the manner in which he presents himself. And you, my good man, aren't faring very well. That urge to reduce the cognitive dissonance born from one's complexes always wins. The higher one professes to be the more apparent the desperation. You fabricate to help you get on with it, you try to make yourself believe it, you hope others will fall for it too. The frown, the snubbing, the criticism, the 'holier than thou'... the works. The pretense, however, does not hold for long, if at all. Typical of one who amounts to naught. Festinger says its not your fault, you're scared. Pomp is how below par achieves mediocrity. pssst.........People can see right through you.


Now be a good boy and answer this:

Only devil advocates devil and corrupt will advocate the corrupt, hope i have enlighten u . By the way what happened to three Pakistan army generals who used public billions of Rs to gamble on stock exchange? only the tip of the ice burg in a sea of corruption.Only known incident in the whole wide world where sitting generals gamble with public purse, but the real icing on the cake is no one took notice of it including the best spy organization ISI in the world. I bet these generals are your heroes. By the way i wanted to remind u, u did not pick on spellings, what happened?, make sure in your next post do not go preachy on me stick with facts and figures.

 

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Only devil advocates devil and corrupt will advocate the corrupt, hope i have enlighten u . By the way what happened to three Pakistan army generals who used public billions of Rs to gamble on stock exchange? only the tip of the ice burg in a sea of corruption.Only known incident in the whole wide world where sitting generals gamble with public purse, but the real icing on the cake is no one took notice of it including the best spy organization ISI in the world. I bet these generals are your heroes. By the way i wanted to remind u, u did not pick on spellings, what happened?, make sure in your next post do not go preachy on me stick with facts and figures.

Well it didn't take long for the cat to get out of the bag. This thread is about IDEAS and as you were unable to respond to any of my questions your defence was simply to bring totally unrelated issues to table. This approach is very simple and I can do the same with any institution in any country of world. You are obviously a Pakistan hater irrespective of who you are and cannot be expected to take a balanced and objective view about Pakistan. You come to this forum simply to spew your poison. You are a fake and I don't think you have ever been to Pakistan and what you say is all based on surfing the web. Nobody on this forum is supporting corruption or mediocracy, nobody is saying Pakistan Army or ISI is the best so don't assume things. If you want to discuss corruption and mediocracy please find another thread or forum and do it in a sensible manner. Your motive to be on this forum is not to have a constructive discourse but rather disrupt and spread negativity. Lastly what makes you such a big shot? Your post reflect an inferiority complex driven personality.

 

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Well it didn't take long for the cat to get out of the bag. This thread is about IDEAS and as you were unable to respond to any of my questions your defence was simply to bring totally unrelated issues to table. This approach is very simple and I can do the same with any institution in any country of world. You are obviously a Pakistan hater irrespective of who you are and cannot be expected to take a balanced and objective view about Pakistan. You come to this forum simply to spew your poison. You are a fake and I don't think you have ever been to Pakistan and what you say is all based on surfing the web. Nobody on this forum is supporting corruption or mediocracy, nobody is saying Pakistan Army or ISI is the best so don't assume things. If you want to discuss corruption and mediocracy please find another thread or forum and do it in a sensible manner. Your motive to be on this forum is not to have a constructive discourse but rather disrupt and spread negativity. Lastly what makes you such a big shot? Your post reflect an inferiority complex driven personality.

Nope hes Pakistani, although would rather not like to be called one; the type who try to be more white than the whites themselves. Meet the likes of him everyday, funny lot.

 

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Well it didn't take long for the cat to get out of the bag. This thread is about IDEAS and as you were unable to respond to any of my questions your defence was simply to bring totally unrelated issues to table. This approach is very simple and I can do the same with any institution in any country of world. You are obviously a Pakistan hater irrespective of who you are and cannot be expected to take a balanced and objective view about Pakistan. You come to this forum simply to spew your poison. You are a fake and I don't think you have ever been to Pakistan and what you say is all based on surfing the web. Nobody on this forum is supporting corruption or mediocracy, nobody is saying Pakistan Army or ISI is the best so don't assume things. If you want to discuss corruption and mediocracy please find another thread or forum and do it in a sensible manner. Your motive to be on this forum is not to have a constructive discourse but rather disrupt and spread negativity. Lastly what makes you such a big shot? Your post reflect an inferiority complex driven personality.

Seems like u have given up nor have u offered any sound arguments to stand up for what u preach, It is my belief that u can not defend the in defensible and believe me there are far better ways to behave than the prime institution which u r proud of, is and have behaved in the past. I think the best way to defend your country is to point out loud and clear the substandard practices these institutions dish out to the common man on the street and yell so loud that every one can hear it rather than defend it. Defending it might make u a patriotic Pakistani but may not fix the system up. I think that is the only difference between your and my thinking yet we share the same goals. Welfare and betterment of Pakistan. I am a Pakistani and story about my cousin and the Col is true as well. Looking forward to your answer. Do not defend it.

 

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Pakistan Machine Tool Factory

 

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IDEAS to generate $10m

KARACHI: International Defence Exhibition and Seminar (IDEAS) 2012 is estimated to generate business worth $10 million for the economy on a sustainable basis through national companies and their international partners.

IDEAS has proved to be an excellent platform for national companies having high caliber productions in engineering and technology- based security equipments, machines and accessories.

“Through every series of IDEAS, our local small-scale manufacturers find ample business opportunities,” said Commodore Siddiq Akbar of the Defence Export Promotion Organisation (DEPO). “Businesses will enhance manifold after this year’s event due to the extraordinary participation of national companies along with their cutting-edge security and defence products.”

The local entities that participated in IDEAS included: Pak Vehicle Eng, PHSADC, Daud Sons, POF, PAC Kamra, HRI-PAF, Alsons, GIDS, Pakistan Navy, Karachi Shipyard, MTE Directorate TE, Procon Eng, Lyra, Alsons Industries, Makkays, HIT, DGMP, and Sigma Motors.

 

[Jango]

Is that Sumo wrestler also a weapon?

Any more info on this machine guys?

 

[Kompromat]

World is making UCAVs and we are making WWII era technologies like reconciles rifles.