Joe Shearer
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I wish I could precede my remarks by offering due respect as you have done, but you make it difficult. This is why.Sir with due respects ,
muslim ummah is one , you are kafir for them so you have no right to speak in matters of muslim ummah, ummah does not believe in borders for muslims , as you can learn all Indian 25 crore muslims are crying for 20 lakh palestinian muslims. So jinnah said he wants separate land for muslims , he got but indian muslims did not go to pakistan because of people like you and others communists and congressis, now pakistanis fought for afghan jihad against your beloved communist russia , they got dollars for afghan refugees who are muslims , those afghans who are born in pakistan and their parents have every right to live in pakistan according to human rights for refugees.
First, the Muslim Ummah is a hypothetical notion, and not a practical one for the real world. There are very many other factors that govern relations between two nations, even if two of them have a majority of Muslim citizens, or consider themselves Islamic countries,
Second, there is nothing that prevents a Muslim from speaking on matters of constitutional organisation in another country, or a Hindu from speaking on matters of constitutional organisation in an Islamic country. All that is required is knowledge, not birth, nor religion practised.
Third, very many Hindus, except those perverts who are Islamophobic and running dogs of the RSS sympathise with civilian victims of the Arab-Israeli conflicts, and condemn crimes by both sides. Neither is it confined to Muslims, nor is it universal among Muslims, nor is it forbidden to others to take this moral stand.
Fourth, when Pakistan was created, people of the Punjab, people of Bengal, who were most directly affected, had a direct choice to make, and made those choices. The majority of Hindus in West Punjab, and many from East Bengal, migrated to the nearest part of India, that is, East Punjab and West Bengal. In identical fashion, every single Muslim then living in a part of India that was not to be part of Pakistan had a choice to make, and they, too, made it. Those who went did so of their own free will. Outside the Punjab and Bengal, the amount of force used against Muslims was relatively low; not absent, but low. It was severe, almost genocidal, in Jammu, and was also bad in Bihar; it was less so in the United Provinces, although there were nasty incidents.
Fifth, this was their choice, and people other than the scoundrels of the RSS and the Hindu Mahasabha had nothing to do with that choice. One fundamental reason was that Indian independence was fought for by all sections of Indian politics and Indian society - the Congress under Gandhi, and thereafter their president, Azad, and their leaders, Nehru and Patel; the soldiers of the British Indian Army who joined Netaji and the INA, the sailors of the Royal Indian Navy who mutinied, the terrorists of Bengal, Bombay (as it was then known) and Punjab, peasants in various parts of the country, as recorded in two or three brilliant histories - everyone except the traitors of the RSS and the Hindu Mahasabha, who were busy collaborating with the British, and writing apology letters to them for having opposed their rule as individuals.
Sixth, the Afghan refugee problem has nothing to do with the partition of India, as your confused and clouded thinking seems to suggest. The refugees came across the border as unwilling victims of violence between the Afghan government and communist factions that sought to take over the government violently, and were supported after an initial period by the Russians. All this had nothing to do with either India or Pakistan, and it was just that for many of them, they took refuge in Pakistan as that was the quietest haven of peace that was available to those who lived in the eastern provinces. You are clearly so ill-informed that you do not know that the people of the western provinces of Afghanistan took shelter in Iran when there was trouble, and they were treated by Iran in an identical manner.
Seventh, there is no law anywhere in the world, other than in the clouded and disturbed minds of some sadak-chhaap lumpen proletariat - some of whom have picked up a smattering of English - that being born in a country automatically offers the child citizenship of that country. That possibility is strictly governed by each company's constitution and that country's definition of its citizenship, and does not come automatically.
It would be a relief if you would not inflict your gibbering on the forum. It is painful to read, and embarrassing to see your self-identification as an Indian.
Just for the record, I am neither a Congress supporter, having disliked that party from 1967 for their deficiencies, nor a Communist or Communist supporter, having witnessed their violent ways directly in the past. So it is better that you refrain from categorising people about whom you have not the slightest idea, just as it is better for you to refrain from posting on topics that random passengers on the Delhi Metro know better than you.
MOST IMPORTANT, STOP SPOILING THE DISCUSSION ON SPORTS BY YOUR HALF-BAKED ATTEMPTS AT DISPLAYING POLITICAL KNOWLEDGE.