IAF Su-30 MKI pilots who neutralized multiple AMRAAM missiles to be awarded

[The Accountant]

Whatever makes you feel happy ... The only proven aircraft down is yours ...

You have one fighter which went down in your airspace and not our airspace .any way these 69s old migs go down with in our airspace.you can claim credit for shooting down one of the oldest aircrafts with your latest fighters in your space

 

[Wow]

You have one fighter which went down in your airspace and not our airspace .any way these 69s old migs go down with in our airspace.you can claim credit for shooting down one of the oldest aircrafts with your latest fighters in your space

The fact that IAF sent "69s old migs" as you claim to intercept the PAF is proof enough you airforce is run by retards and of course we shot down the mig its crossed into our airspace

 

[The Accountant]

Can you explain, how can there be AMRAAM wreckage, if there were no F-16s involved?


" Firstly, Pakistan did not use F-16s in the entire action and there is no news that a Pakistan plane was downed," the DG ISPR confirmed during a press conference few hours after Pakistan Air Force (PAF) shot down two Indian fighter jets."

https://dunyanews.tv/en/Pakistan/480330-Pakistan-F16-jet-clarification-Pakistan-Army-India-fake-news

Or was ISPR lying ?

And if ISPR can lie about F-16 not being involved, then why can't they lie about F-16 being shot down?

First of all AMRAAM was found to be at another area ... secondly it could have been used in another action ... 3rd if AMRAAM was used how can it transform into killing of F16s?

 

[Maarkhoor]

And if ISPR can lie about F-16 not being involved, then why can't they lie about F-16 being shot down?

Abey Gobar Kumar lockhead martin maintain complete record of their product and check their website they registered each and every loss / alteration....did they allow Pakistan to cheat with them?

 

[The Eagle]

ISPR firstly claimed there were no F-16s involved that day(which has been conclusively proven wrong, since AMARAAM has been found.

They still claims, they shot down two IAF aircraft, even awarded two kills to two its pilots. Despite there being as much evidence of second IAF aircraft being shot down, as there is off a F-16 being shot down.

So where is the correction for that ?

No F-16s were used in delivering Package. Read or listen again.... Even, US did not deny what DG ISPR said. Read again.. It is about when PAF strike ground targets & no F-16 was involved. It is written clearly that we will use F-16s for deterrence/self defence. Seems you are not reading the whole thing but mere F-16 name is the issue here.

Ok your have your aircraft and our aircraft which went down ,what's stopping you from releasing the proof to show it was shot by the mighty jf 17

Nothing stopping us but kept for the right time... The word "Surprise" will keep coming every now & then. There are parties that seen all the aerial engagement or at-least they have close idea as what really happened on that day. Indians can release data too to prove, otherwise.

Correction ?
You know the position of DG ISPR and how much high ranked one that is .
There is no space for correction .
He himself declared 2 jets down 3 pilots caught .
But at first instant what our MEA we dont have information regarding the down pilot. ,later they agreed one is MIA .
That is what a trusted Govt authority will do.


Noone called anyone as traitors in India .
Air strikes itself gave some advantage to Modi so opposition played politics like what they did right after Pokhran 2 .

3 chutes was in Pak airspace .One was Mig 21 pilot and other two ,also landed in Azad Kashmir.
Means the jet was fall inside Pak territory .
How we actually suppose to take picture of that one ?
AMRAAM evidence is an evidence .
For now you may get US support because
these development will hurt their business interests

Correction.. Yes, its DG ISPR Statement that Indian Authorities couldn't challenge by any mean. Why IAF is afraid to call it otherwise? or come & expose?
Indians claimed to shoot down F-16 and that is not proven yet except of that AMRAAM piece.

So now you have another lame excuse that development business interests forces US to be on Pakistan side? I mean do you really read what you are typing and saying consecutively. How many goal posts needs to be changed in support of Indian claims?

AMRAAM is an evidence of what? However, by the look of same from every angle, its exploded and that is clear.

Prove those other 2 chutes were of? which country? India has the best opportunity to expose Pakistani side, no?

 

[Thorough Pro]

We have not even officially recognized our pilots who shot down 3/4 of intruding enemy planes and Indians are rewarding their pilots who ran away from the fight.
Like nation, like heroes.
Losers making coward losers their heroes.

 

[Osiris]

First of all AMRAAM was found to be at another area ... secondly it could have been used in another action ... 3rd if AMRAAM was used how can it transform into killing of F16s?

Read/ hear ISPRs words, he said F-16s were not used at all.(entire action).

Still we find AMRAAMs. There have been too many discrepancies in ISPR statements.

 

[Oruc]

thank God no LCA was involved. otherwise they would have given it veer chakra for sitting on the truck.

 

[Arsalan 345]

First of all,wreckage of amraam showed explosion near target.it was not like someone jammed it.now iaf saying multiple amraams fired which means more amraams hit the target.why iaf showed only one amraam? This is ridiculous by iaf.chief officer is sacked and paf successfully targeted su-30.iaf is basically telling to the Audience that multiple amraams were chasing multiple su-30s.this is operational failure and a very unbelievable statement.truth will come out one day.

 

[The Accountant]

Read/ hear ISPRs words, he said F-16s were not used at all.(entire action).

Still we find AMRAAMs. There have been too many discrepancies in ISPR statements.

He said today ... What if they were used one day earlier or anytime earlier in another skirmish

 

[Thorough Pro]

Indians in moral in general general and IAF's in particular is 6 feet down, they need to make heroes out of losers to save their face.

Actually it serves us well as it sets the standard for new IAF pilots to follow, that is run away from the fight, get recognized as a hero and get awarded. Please promote all such "Hero" pilots.

 

[HttpError]

It disappeared mysteriously.


He should be given Vir Chakra for downing F-16 while flying an obsolete MiG 21.

After his beaten ***, you should also give me a Nobel prize as well.

 

[Wow]

 

[blain2]

I don't think we have seen an instance of pilots being awarded for supposed "avoidance" from getting hit.

Can you explain, how can there be AMRAAM wreckage, if there were no F-16s involved?


" Firstly, Pakistan did not use F-16s in the entire action and there is no news that a Pakistan plane was downed," the DG ISPR confirmed during a press conference few hours after Pakistan Air Force (PAF) shot down two Indian fighter jets."

https://dunyanews.tv/en/Pakistan/480330-Pakistan-F16-jet-clarification-Pakistan-Army-India-fake-news

Or was ISPR lying ?

And if ISPR can lie about F-16 not being involved, then why can't they lie about F-16 being shot down?

The ISPR briefing was about the PAF strikes against your locations across the LoC. It is a fact that no PAF F-16s came across the LoC as the strikes were conducted by Mirages and JF-17s with top cover from other assets. Top cover can be provided at standoff ranges so it makes no sense for PAF to come across the LoC with our F-16s given the optics. DG-ISPR was factually right and the Pakistani story makes sense. Your side's assertion that "we have signatures of F-16s" etc. means nothing because you can pick up signatures from afar. The EW libraries are put together with such snooping going on all the time from stand-off ranges.

The facts are literally on the ground. We have our data and insights that tell us that IAF lost more than 1 aircraft in this skirmish. The burden of hard proof is on your side because we don't need to prove anything given what landed on our and your side after this skirmish. We don't even disclose what and how the pilots who shot down your WingCo and other assets were commended on the backend.

Facts are:

- IAF lost a Mig-21 on the Pakistani side and an MI-17 was also lost during the same time in the same vicinity of the aerial action taking place. (We have a claim on at least one more IAF (Su-30MKI) loss but I won't get into that because it would take us down the same line as the Indian claim on the F-16.)
- PAF conducted airstrikes in response to your ingress the day before and these were successfully prosecuted.
- There is NO proof or data, not a shred, that PAF took ANY losses.

An aircraft going down in a heavily populated area is bound to have someone getting something on their phone. Not a shred of evidence to substantiate the claim that PAF lost an F-16.

There is a lot of posturing going on the Indian side and a lot of it is to shore up morale. That is obviously your business as to how your side wants to do it but it will be challenged each step of the way. After all, after any such situation, both sides need to have a way to back down without losing face so I can see why such stuff is being talked up by India.

 

[farhan_9909]

Read/ hear ISPRs words, he said F-16s were not used at all.(entire action).

Still we find AMRAAMs. There have been too many discrepancies in ISPR statements.

Because we wanted to avoid that F-16 were involved in the offensive for the reasons you already know but still it doesn't mean f-16 was shot down.