IAF’S ‘OP RAHAT’: A Mammoth task well done

[asad71]

What a messy response by GOI and the State govt! V poor show. BD will be happy to teach them how we are handling disasters bringing down casualty to almost nil from previously thousands.

Uttarakhand tragedy: disaster preparedness at major pilgrimage sites - Hindustan Times

 

[Capt.Popeye]

What a messy response by GOI and the State govt! V poor show. BD will be happy to teach them how we are handling disasters bringing down casualty to almost nil from previously thousands.

Uttarakhand tragedy: disaster preparedness at major pilgrimage sites - Hindustan Times

LOLL, A sad miah, That'll be the day indeed................BD will teach other people Disaster Relief Mgmt???

 

[janon]

What a messy response by GOI and the State govt! V poor show. BD will be happy to teach them how we are handling disasters bringing down casualty to almost nil from previously thousands.

Uttarakhand tragedy: disaster preparedness at major pilgrimage sites - Hindustan Times

How would bangladesh have airlifted 110,000 people in 3 days? By asking them to use their lungis as flying carpets? Because every helicopter in B'desh put together would not have sufficed. And things like C-130Js can only be seen with powerful telescopes pointed across the border.

 

[janon]

LOLL, A sad miah, That'll be the day indeed................BD will teach other people Disaster Relief Mgmt???

Once he was claiming that Bangladesh has a higher GDP and HDI than India.

Next he will be offering tips to ISRO. He is a "professional" clown, intent at drawing some ridicule to himself and his country.

Anyway, unless they have invented flying lungis, I don't know how they would have handled a situation like Uttarkhand, given their non existent airlift capability.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Once he was claiming that Bangladesh has a higher GDP and HDI than India.

Next he will be offering tips to ISRO. He is a "professional" clown, intent at drawing some ridicule to himself and his country.

Anyway, unless they have invented flying lungis, I don't know how they would have handled a situation like Uttarkhand, given their non existent airlift capability.

Agreed! If this is the state of "professionals" in BD; there is just nothing to be said at all..........
Of course PDF is very tolerating of so-called "professionals"; so I'd put it down to unbounded charity.

 

[acetophenol]

Aircrafts used by IAF in Op Rahat:

23 - Mi 17 medium twin-turbine transport helicopters.
11 - HAL Dhruv, indigenous light utility helicopters
1 - Cheetah single-engined Helicopter
1 - Mil Mi-26 heavy transport helicopter
2 - C130J military transport aircraft
3 - AN 32s transport aircraft
1 - HS-748 transport aircraft
1 - IL-76 heavy transport aircraft

Does anyone have any info on the private aircrafts involved?

IAF Mil Mi-17 airlifts crashed Pawanhans Heli during Op Rahat

 

[acetophenol]

Made-in-India HAL ALH "Dhruv" of IAF side by side with IA Dhruv during Op Rahat

 

[acetophenol]

-IAF used some Dhruv's belonging to its distinguished "Sarang" Helicopter Display team.

-HAL Dhruv flew for almost 630 hours.

-HAL Cheetah and HAL Chetak flew for combined 520 hours.

-HAL Dhruv could carry upto 16 passengers.

-On many occasions, due to incessant rain IAF pilots could only use Dhruv as it was unsafe for other copters to land.

-HAL teams were positioned at Deharadun and Delhi to ensure logistic support for the rescue operations.

 

[acetophenol]

Statement by HAL

HAL Statement: HAL-produced helicopters – Dhruv, Cheetah/Chetak – played a leading role in the biggest ever helicopter based rescue operation of Indian defence forces in flood and rain-hit areas of Uttarakhand recently. These copters deployed over flood and landslide affected areas in Uttarakhand performed effectively in dropping paratroopers, evacuating stranded people and in supply of food and medicines. The helicopters made hundreds of sorties in the high risk zone overcoming strong winds, visibility and with virtually no space for landing on high terrains. HAL teams were positioned at Deharadun and Delhi to ensure logistic support for the rescue operations.

Dhruv which can carry 16 passengers was the star performer. On many occasions, due to incessant rain IAF pilots could only use Dhruv as it was unsafe for other copters to land. Dhruv helicopters flew for nearly 630 hours during the operation and Cheetah/Chetak flew 520 hours.

"The indigenous helicopters pressed into service by the Army and the Air Force in flood-hit areas have proved their mettle in carrying out rescue and relief operations in highly inaccessible areas. We are proud of it", says Dr. R.K. Tyagi, Chairman, HAL.

HAL designed, developed and produced Dhruv helicopters have been delivered to the Indian Army, Air Force, Navy and the Coast Guard. They are also exported. The civil version of Dhruv has been certified by the DGCA and delivered to ONGC, Govt of Jharkand and the BSF.

The advanced technology features incorporated in the design of Dhruv include hingeless main rotor and bearingless tail rotor; integrated dynamic system encompassing main gear box and upper controls in a single housing; higher powered Shakti engines; integrated architecture display system (glass cockpit); duplex automatic flight control system; redundancy with twin engine, dual hydraulics and controls; 30 min dry running capability of gear boxes; crashworthy bottom structure, landing gear, crew seat and fuel tanks with self-sealing capability; extensive use of composite material on fuselage and rotor system; integration of role and optional equipments such as rescue hoist, stretchers and cargo-hook.

Dhurv also has advanced avionics (communication, navigation & surveillance), electrical mission systems. All this makes Dhruv, a versatile multi-mission, multi-role helicopter capable of operating in all-weather and extreme climate conditions ensuring high degree of reliability and survivability.

Based on the expertise of Dhruv, HAL undertook the Design & Development of Light Combat Helicopter (LCH) and Light Utility Helicopter (LUH).

 

[asad71]

How would bangladesh have airlifted 110,000 people in 3 days? By asking them to use their lungis as flying carpets? Because every helicopter in B'desh put together would not have sufficed. And things like C-130Js can only be seen with powerful telescopes pointed across the border.

1.We have had far worse disasters.Only idiots think the way you are suggesting. Uttarkhand flash floods are age-old. What preparations were made preceding the season?Did you put resources in place to tackle such a situation? Have you allocated AOR to military units to tackle emergencies? Then they would have recced, done their appreciation / analysis and prepared themselves to move instantly. Now almost one week was lost in looking at each others face - GOI, GOU, IA, IAF, mighty civil administration and what have you.

2.Ya,I remember 4 Madras being rushed into Bhopal Union Carbide blast without preparation.Poor battalion was almost wiped out for moving in without even the basic gas mask.

 

[janon]

-IAF used some Dhruv's belonging to its distinguished "Sarang" Helicopter Display team.

-HAL Dhruv flew for almost 630 hours.

-HAL Cheetah and HAL Chetak flew for combined 520 hours.

-HAL Dhruv could carry upto 16 passengers.

-On many occasions, due to incessant rain IAF pilots could only use Dhruv as it was unsafe for other copters to land.

-HAL teams were positioned at Deharadun and Delhi to ensure logistic support for the rescue operations.

I just realized that a newly built HAL Dhruv costs the same as a LUH to be purchased from abroad, even assuming 2009 prices (900 million dollars for 197). I'm pretty sure that today the foreign LUH would cost even more. Then why the F do we need the LUHs? Why not use Dhruvs in that role?

Double the production of the Dhruvs, and use a 100 of them to fulfill the LUH role as a stop gap, until HAL LUH gets ready. Heck, even if we dispense with the LUH requirement and use Dhruvs forever for that purpose, it would still be cheaper for us, since we don't spend forex on it. And of course, the Dhruvs are a helluva more capable than LUHs.

This LUH requirement seems an unnecessary purchase, unless it is significantly cheaper than our multirole helicopters. It is like buying reconnaissance UAVs for the same price as a Rafale.

1.We have had far worse disasters.Only idiots think the way you are suggesting. Uttarkhand flash floods are age-old. What preparations were made preceding the season?Did you put resources in place to tackle such a situation? Have you allocated AOR to military units to tackle emergencies? Then they would have recced, done their appreciation / analysis and prepared themselves to move instantly. Now almost one week was lost in looking at each others face - GOI, GOU, IA, IAF, mighty civil administration and what have you.

2.Ya,I remember 4 Madras being rushed into Bhopal Union Carbide blast without preparation.Poor battalion was almost wiped out for moving in without even the basic gas mask.

3. This really has to do with factors deeper. The Hindu has no experience of ruling. For ever he has been used to carrying out orders / wishes / desires. So they are kind of lost under the present circumstances where they find themselves the rulers. Not entirely though. Remember how they clung to Mountbatten? And now the waitress from Rome.

Sorry, I'm not interested in professional clowns. Enjoy your delusions of religious superiority (which has made your country the most desirable on earth).

 

[asad71]

I just realized that a newly built HAL Dhruv costs the same as a LUH to be purchased from abroad, even assuming 2009 prices (900 million dollars for 197). I'm pretty sure that today the foreign LUH would cost even more. Then why the F do we need the LUHs? Why not use Dhruvs in that role?

Double the production of the Dhruvs, and use a 100 of them to fulfill the LUH role as a stop gap, until HAL LUH gets ready. Heck, even if we dispense with the LUH requirement and use Dhruvs forever for that purpose, it would still be cheaper for us, since we don't spend forex on it. And of course, the Dhruvs are a helluva more capable than LUHs.

This LUH requirement seems an unnecessary purchase, unless it is significantly cheaper than our multirole helicopters. It is like buying reconnaissance UAVs for the same price as a Rafale.



Sorry, I'm not interested in professional clowns. Enjoy your delusions of religious superiority (which has made your country the most desirable on earth).

If it is beyond comprehension, it is best to keep the trap shut. Shut means bandh / chup /khamosh/no bakwas.This Italian waitress has taught these guys nothing!

 

[Dillinger]

If it is beyond comprehension, it is best to keep the trap shut. Shut means bandh / chup /khamosh/no bakwas.This Italian waitress has taught these guys nothing!

The Hindu troops seem to have had a good experience in teaching Muslims how to liberate themselves and then actually doing the job for them. Seems like all the god's chosen people are neither alike nor equal.

 

[asad71]

The Hindu troops seem to have had a good experience in teaching Muslims how to liberate themselves and then actually doing the job for them. Seems like all the god's chosen people are neither alike nor equal.

Sorry to disappoint you. We liberated ourselves. You guys came in at the twelfth hour to showoff and for photo opportunities.

 

[janon]

If it is beyond comprehension, it is best to keep the trap shut. Shut means bandh / chup /khamosh/no bakwas.This Italian waitress has taught these guys nothing!

Replace beyond with beneath, and the statement holds true. Which is why I volunteered not to respond. Some things are beneath response.