IAF R-73/R-77 AAMs recovered from Mig-21 wreckage l Abhinandan did not fire any missile

[Vapnope]

PAF didnt even "Try" when IAF Hit them 80 KM Deep.

80 km for a crow? Man that is an expensive raid...

 

[Musalman]

he used hanuman missile.

We should not involve their religion into this thing.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

They did "Claim" to down an F16. And yes they did Try atleast ( abhinandan captured )
PAF didnt even "Try" when IAF Hit them 80 KM Deep.

ok tell me one thing did our 24 jet formation crossed LOC or not?
if they did then your claims are false that paf stayed in its own airspace
if they didnt cross LOC then intercepting and shooting down PAF AC is utter nonsense
abhi was intruder again and was shot down

 

[KAI KAI Baloch]

Indian Claims :

1. F16 Fired Missiles : AIM 120 Shown .. F16 were used ... Proved
Yes proved. However Indians are mis interpreting ISPR, attack in India was by Mirages and JF-17s and by no F-16s used it was implied that no F-16s used for the mission inside India. F-16s don´t carry SOWs. There have been multiple engagements day before.
2. We Hit Deep Inside Balakot... Trees + Crows Killed.... Proved
Finally thank you for agreeing that your planes failed to hit their targets and kill 300 people as per claim.
3. When IAF Hit , PAF was Sleeping .. ZERO RETALIATION ( Like Abhinandan Did ) .. Proved
Indian jets couldnt complete their mission and despite modi jees intentions do not dare to mess with PAF. India made three attempts on 26th and also engaged near Lahore and Bhawalpur. Next day was retaliation day.

Pakistani Claims & Reversals :

1. We Have 3 Pilots > Then Just 1 > Where did the other Go ?
Will let you know once your elections end, 2nd is dead. Can you imagine the backlash from Indian public on InAF once they get confirmation, this will escalate if shown now. Exact was 3rd was claimed we are checking by ISPR.
2. We Never used F16 > Then where did India get AIM 120 from ?
There is no denying F-16s are used, but not for that mission inside India. Our primary jet is JF-17 now. F-16s likely fired on your jets in other engagements.
3. We Hit Deep Inside India > Then Why This .. ? ( Note the Term "from within pakistani airspace" ) , They didnt even cross the LOC !
We used stand off weapons, to engage targets deep in India. H2/4 can be remotely controlled. Targeting videos will be released soon to public as per ISPR information, they have been shared with US and other powers to intervene to deescalate.

In addition to what you said, Pakistan showed the failed bombing of india and pictures with satellite imagery. However india never showed the pics of the so called failed Pakistani bombing in their territory???

 

[Vapnope]

Indians: Where is proof?
Pakistan: This, this and that.
Indians: But where is other proof?
Pakistan: Here, let me show you some more.
Indians: We want more proof!
Pakistan: Alright, here is another one..

Pakistan: Where is your proof?
India: .... but but but we shot down an F16, we won 1971 war, We won... 80km deep inside, 300 bodies... 300 cellphones...

 

[Oruc]

See, Lets not discuss the claims which can never be verified.
Even if India Showed some pic, would that be acceptable ?

India did show AIM 120 and said we killed an F16, was it accepted ?

look at these missiles does they look like anything similar to the piece your side showed?
thats bcz that missile hit something and exploded.

 

[I.R.A]

True. But That was the Plan.
Hit some crows and tell them we can HIT you deep at our will and you wont even know it.

Your PAF tried the same but was retailiated by our vintage Mig 21.

There is a difference ........ you intruded like thieves in the cover of night .... without openly declaring that you would attack .... and we did it after giving an advance notice that we will attack .... and we did it in broad day light.

If you wish to understand it further .......... your targets were your terrorists (per you) ....... and our targets were our terrorists, present near the places we hit. Do you understand what it means?

 

[Chanakyaa]

Indians: Where is proof?
Pakistan: This, this and that.
Indians: But where is other proof?
Pakistan: Here, let me show you some more.
Indians: We want more proof!
Pakistan: Alright, here is another one..

Pakistan: Where is your proof?
India: .... but but but we shot down an F16, we won 1971 war, We won... 80km deep inside, 300 bodies... 300 cellphones...

See, India is NOT trying to prove we killed an F16s.
Its trying to show to the US, Your F16s are being use against India.
Now, You sold them..... if you wanna sell More weapons to India.....You must do something about YOUR Weapon used Against YOUR STRATEGIC PARTNER.

It will use Israel and its Tactics to make your f16s unusable. Just wait and watch.
India didnt kill just one F16, they are trying to Kill them ALL.

Baniya ka Dimag hai Sahab !

 

[Areesh]

No body is saving a pride here.
Just sort out Proven facts with UN Proven Stories and you will get the picture.

Indian Claims :

1. F16 Fired Missiles : AIM 120 Shown .. F16 were used ... Proved
2. We Hit Deep Inside Balakot... Trees + Crows Killed.... Proved
3. When IAF Hit , PAF was Sleeping .. ZERO RETALIATION ( Like Abhinandan Did ) .. Proved

Pakistani Claims & Reversals :

1. We Have 3 Pilots > Then Just 1 > Where did the other Go ?
2. We Never used F16 > Then where did India get AIM 120 from ?
3. We Hit Deep Inside India > Then Why This .. ? ( Note the Term "from within pakistani airspace" ) , They didnt even cross the LOC !

India NEVER Changed its "Official" position. NEVER.
"saving pride" is the act of people who make Bizzare Claims and later Retract.

Great way to spin your failure and humiliation. But let me give you a reality check:

1. IAF tried to attack balakot at night to destroy alleged JeM camps and kill terrorists present there
2. IAF came a few kilometers inside Pakistani territory
3. PAF scrambled its aircraft when IAF was few kilometers of Pakistani territory
4. On seeing Pakistan's response IAF panicked and dropped its payload in haste and ran away
5. The dropped payload ended up in a forest with no casualties or structural damage

Result: IAF mission was a failure

1. PAF responded in daytime within 24 hours of IAF aggression
2. PAF goal was to target Indian military targets in IOK and give a response
3. PAF successfully targeted Indian military targets

result: PAF mission was successful

Claims:

1. IAF and Indian government claimed to destroy JeM camps and kill hundreds of terrorists
Fact: None of that has been proven till day. Not even a single death is proven.

2. India claimed to shot down a F16
Fact: None of that has proven to be true

1. Pakistan claimed to bomb military targets in IOK
Fact: Accepted by India itself

2. Pakistan claimed to shot down 2 IAF aircraft
Fact: PAF successfully managed to prove shooting down at least 1 IAF aircraft

3. Pakistan claimed to have two pilots
Fact: it proved one to be in its custody

4. IAF also lost a mi17 helicopter losing 6 officers. As per some reports it was shot down by IAF itself in friendly fire

Result: IAF appears as the sole and clear loser in the whole conflict

End of story

 

[Daghalodi]

Real crow is sitting on the hill top guarded by Pakistani security .

LOL!!! For the love of cows

 

[Mav3rick]

Imran,

1. PAF DIDNT RETALIATE AT ALL When IAF Enetered Pakistan. Explain That.

PAF immediately responded and chased the intruders out of the Pakistani Airspace, PAF was the reason IAF ejected prematurely and missed all targets.

2. IAF IMMEDIATELY , RETALIATED and Abhinanadan Scambled Agaisnat Targets which were "Officialy" on their Side of LOC..

And was duly shot down, along with an SU-30MKI which fell on your side of the LoC. Nothing to be proud of, really dude!

tell Me.. Are you REALLY.. Im meas seriously Prooud that Your AirSpace was RAIDED and your AIRFORCE did nothing ?

Are you that retarded, seriously? You have been told multiple times that IAF hauled *** back to their sanctuary behind LoC as soon as PAF responded.........why did you not ENGAGE PAF, if you were really that macho?

And This was nothing compared to 90000 captured in 71 and Hundreds never claimed in 1999.
What Humiliation are you talking about.

I too can imagine a part of India on the other side of Pakistan, deprived and politically victimized by India with the support of all 130 million or so against Indian Military and a good 100k+ actively waging a freedom struggle against India.......yeah I can imagine Indian Military's chances against that!!

Infact What Abhinandan Did was Smething ENTIRELY Misssed by PAF.

You mean the Mi-17???

 

[Areesh]

@Windjammer @AgNoStiC MuSliM @WebMaster @MastanKhan @Irfan Baloch @Zarvan

I think mystery is solved regarding Mig-21 armament.
So it is clear now that Mig-21 was equiped with 2x R-73 and 2x R-77 and all were found with the wreckage.

2nd R-73 tail section attached with pylon

Another picture from different angle

Both R-77 were found at the crash site as well

Damaged R-77

So you want to say none of the 4 missiles was fired by Mig21???

 

[I.R.A]

Firstly, We are talking about an Air raid. Please go read about pakistani Air Defence and RADARs and SAMs.

Okay I get it ......... in future you would say Abhinandan was a Pakistani pilot paraded as indian pilot. And if Pakistanis challenge that claim ....... you will tell him go study this and that.

Secondly, What did musharraf do in 1999 ? Intruded in winter....in a no mans land ?

So we are playing gali cricket where you can anytime complain I wasn't ready ...... pheli ball try ball thi.

What he did then ..... whole world saw it ......... for months.

 

[KAI KAI Baloch]

See, Lets not discuss the claims which can never be verified.
Even if India Showed some pic, would that be acceptable ?

India did show AIM 120 and said we killed an F16, was it accepted ?

No i would like to see the missed target..... we were open enough to show the damage of 300 (claimed by india) and you cant even show anything.....

OK lets be sane and not india for the comment u made.....

If you get an amraam in ur territory what does that tell you....... it was fired at a target !! if the 16 was shot down where is the wreckage???

And you so called brave abhinandan was lured in and he was shot down!!

As far as your comment on IAF strikes, till then there was alert between airforces but no aggression happened..... u had the element of initiative and still you failed miserably...
while when the PAF came the next day, all the cards where on the deck and still you got PGM and lo 1 mig 21/su30/mi17 were lost .......... kudos to you.......

You talk about ISPR, what about your Defense minister who is lying her *** off of an f16 being shot down with no evidence......
what about the 300 terrorist killed claim????

dont be a troll!!

But let me give YOUR HARD reality check:



And IAF Successfully Crushed Pakistani Air Defence.
PAF didnt have steel balls like Abhinandan to Scramble.



Lie. it was 80 KM.

yes we checked his steel balls...... they were not that hard in the first place.....

Ask him what PAF did to his balls he will reply i am not suppose to tell u this

 

[Kurlang]

@XiNiX don't defend if you can't defend. It's better to move on.
Pakistan did gave India a bloody nose and deep down you Indians feel insulted.
This is all due to an idiot sitting at the top (Modi). Reading your post an old Urdu saying comes to my mind
Ghisyani billi khumba nochay.

You Indian certainly have the right to defend and comment, however you look stupid and an embarrassment when you defend the undefendable.