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IAF officers can't grow beard on religious basis: Supreme Court

Nope We have different rules only for Sikhs as it's mandatory for them to keep long hair and beard according to their religion. And there is one law for people of other faiths as their religion doesn't make it necessary for them to keep beard/long hair.
in islam it is Sunnah and mandatory too.
you can't give a muslim wrong justification about his beliefs. that's why muslims don't join your forces in the number at par with their population. only 2% of indian armed forces is muslims.
 
in islam it is Sunnah and mandatory too.
you can't give a muslim wrong justification about his beliefs. that's why muslims don't join your forces in the number at par with their population. only 2% of indian armed forces is muslims.

Provide source which fulfills this clause...

"Clause (b) of Regulation 425, however, stipulates that an airman will be permitted to grow hair or to retain a beard where the religion professed by him prohibits the cutting of hair or shaving of facial hair."

Considering how Islamic countries are using religion and even sects to give wrong justifications, India is doing quite good.
 
@Levina , Sikh Pilots, Tank Crew and many others who need to wear a head gear ( as Russian tanks have ) were a Patka under the head gear see image below.

Some of them have really long hairs,how do they tie their hairs to prevent it from bulging under the patka?
 
Sir How difficult it's for you to see that after Modi in power with two third majority your SC is now more going after Muslims and Islam.

You guys are seeing shadows where there are none.

The SC & Govt are at logger heads over a No of issues , appointment of Judges is one of them.

In any case the Judiciary in India is fiercely independent , the Govt is being rocked on demonetisation too.

Some of them have really long hairs,how do they tie their hairs to prevent it from bulging under the patka?

Not a problem at all, fits perfectly.

Men too like ladies start losing hair after an age, leads to thinning of hair on the head.
 
In military institutions, rules are made equally for everyone. Yes, many Muslims do not keep beard but that does not mean those who want to willfully follow their Islamic teachings to being stopped. If SC says beard cannot be grown for religious basis, then, personnel to every religion must follow this rule. Whether it is mandatory in their religion or not. Indian Military should not discriminate against anyone. Everyone has the right to follow their religion freely.

Many Non-Muslims try to teach us our religion. It is most probable that a follower of a certain religion will better know his religion than a non- follower. Rules shall be applied to everyone and not to a specific group.

In Islam, it is highly recommended to have beard and Our Prophet(S.A.W) had beard. It is Sunnah to have beard. If a believer have one, he is just following the Islamic teachings. And I hope Indian Army allows its serviceman to follow their religion freely. Yes, if some rule is applied as a standard, then it should be applied to everyone and no one should have an exception.

In short, I believe this is unjust. But it is an Indian matter.(I still worry for my fellow Muslims because it is my duty to).

Yes, there are many similar cases. In army you can grow beard but you have to take permission from your commander. But their is no specific rule for anyone that they cannot grow beard on the basis of religion. Neither does our army discriminate a specific community. The rule is for everyone. Either everyone should allowed or no one should be allowed whatsoever.

It is compulsory(as a part of religion) for sikhs to keep beard which is not the case with Muslims,Hindus, Christian etc. Period.
the Question is does the Military do not allow its personel to follw their religion freely. If the Military has some specific rule, it should be applied to everyone. And Muslims are highly recommended to keep beard. Please let us act ourselves on our religion. You should not tell what is or not in our religion unless you are one of us. It is our religion and most probably we know better than Non-Muslims of ourreligion and its teachings.

Provide source which fulfills this clause...

"Clause (b) of Regulation 425, however, stipulates that an airman will be permitted to grow hair or to retain a beard where the religion professed by him prohibits the cutting of hair or shaving of facial hair."

Considering how Islamic countries are using religion and even sects to give wrong justifications, India is doing quite good.

Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 72, Hadith 781 Narrated by Abdullah ibn Umar says "Allah's Apostle said, 'Cut the moustaches short and leave the beard (as it is).

Allowing the beard (Lihyah in Arabic) to grow and trimming the moustache is ruled as mandatory according to the Sunnah in Islam by consensus[63] and is considered part of the fitra i.e. the way man was created.

I think Wikipedia is fairly reliable for you to get some general idea. As a Muslim, we are required to have beard. Yes you do say that many do not have beard but it is also a fact that many Muslims do not offer their obligatory prayers punctually. This does not mean that you should not be allowed to have beard because a Muslim is only following his religious teachings. (i.e. if religion can be practiced freely. If not, then their is no use to argue I guess.)
 
If that were the case, nobody stopped us from writing a Hindu specific constitution despite Muslims being given a separate nation. They came, they ruled and they couldn't still become majority? Enough to prove who is strong.
majprity doesnt mean Minorities have no right to exist. In Pak Army Sikhs are allowed to keep beard and turban as per their religious beleifs
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majprity doesnt mean Minorities have no right to exist. In Pak Army Sikhs are allowed to keep beard and turban as per their religious beleifs
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Indiands are too narrow minded to even dream of becoming a super power
 
Check your DN

Check your DNA..Your ancestors did not came on flying donkeys pal. Feel proud of ur hindu ancestory.cheers!!
I don't give a damn to hindus. I am a proud Punjabi now! My ancestral tree is outside India. Few hundred years back they converted to Sikhism but never damn hindus!
 
Let's be clear here , There is no different rule for Muslims , it's a different rule for Sikhs and all the rest including Hindus , Muslims , Jains , Christians etc have to follow it . Also if want to serve your country then these issues should be the last things on your mind.
As for the Pakistani people so concerned here about the state of Muslims here in India then they should know that every single one of them is living and working on his own free will here , not by force or threat If they felt that Pakistan was a better, safer place for them then they could have left but they didn't . You guys don't have any idea how it's like to run and govern a country with so many different religions and cultures , while trying to keep everyone happy
 
And all Muslims are practicing Muslims ?:lol:




So it only makes an exception for Sikhs lol?

Sikhs were given this exemption in 1840's by the British Army as their religion mandated it but both Hindus (Rajputs) and Muslims did who keep beards as their religion did not mandate it! After sheedding copious tears for Khalistan and Sikhs you are stripped naked by you bigotry. Why not compare the FACT THAT BOTH HINDUS AND MUSLIMS ARE FORBIDDEN BEARDS IN THE INDIAN ARMY?
 
Sikhs were given this exemption in 1840's by the British Army as their religion mandated it but both Hindus (Rajputs) and Muslims did who keep beards as their religion did not mandate it! After sheedding copious tears for Khalistan and Sikhs you are stripped naked by you bigotry.

Hi ...even under British army rules Muslim soldiers kept beards ! That's a "FACT".


2nd) Where in my post do you see me talkin about Khalistan ? I don't even give a shyt.....

3rd) Don't moan...
Why not compare the FACT THAT BOTH HINDUS AND MUSLIMS ARE FORBIDDEN BEARDS IN THE INDIAN ARMY?
Another FACT!

Although beard isn't nessecary for every Muslim but a practicing Muslim does keep beard as it is Sunnah ! So yes religion does mandate it.


Here is another... I don't give a fuk about Indian Muslims ... They already getting fked ... So good for em..
 
Let's be clear here , There is no different rule for Muslims , it's a different rule for Sikhs and all the rest including Hindus , Muslims , Jains , Christians etc have to follow it . Also if want to serve your country then these issues should be the last things on your mind.
As for the Pakistani people so concerned here about the state of Muslims here in India then they should know that every single one of them is living and working on his own free will here , not by force or threat If they felt that Pakistan was a better, safer place for them then they could have left but they didn't . You guys don't have any idea how it's like to run and govern a country with so many different religions and cultures , while trying to keep everyone happy
You know what. These muslim IAF officers will not waste even a single second in defending the country and/or bombing Pakistan if called upon to do so
 

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