IAF MiG-21 pilot awarded medal for saving aircraft twice last year

[livingdead]

Why is that? To those babus.. the IAF may be exaggerating the problem. Their job is to ensure their portfolio shows "keen oversight" and "budget control".

forces indeed tend to hide their incompetence and villify babus.
Yes any nation rich or poor has to make some choices and there is a price for human soldier's life. If you make it too pricey, you lose war without fighting it.
I believe those who think our boys deserve the best in the world are naive.

And if it was really that serious, I would have expected air chiefs to resign in protest over delay.

 

[SQ8]

And there in lies the problem.. Communication breakdown and lack of appreciation of the problems faced by armed forces. Like all remedies, the armed forces in India are very devoid of appreciation till the proverbial shit hits the fan (remember Kargil) and then every one starts scampering around to recover..

And Air force is not without blame either.. They have screwed around with the LCA program so much that they are now sitting with a dying platform(Mig 21) rather than a not so perfect one that they could have achieved 10 years back if they wanted..

That's one place PAF did a good job with JF 17, accepting it following the 80-20 rule

Under appreciation is only part of the issue. A greater integration of the private and public sectors will provide a solution. If a Private sector firm has a stake in a program.. it can lobby the babus for faster process.

 

[Bratva]

And there in lies the problem.. Communication breakdown and lack of appreciation of the problems faced by armed forces. Like all remedies, the armed forces in India are very devoid of appreciation till the proverbial shit hits the fan (remember Kargil) and then every one starts scampering around to recover..

And Air force is not without blame either.. They have screwed around with the LCA program so much that they are now sitting with a dying platform(Mig 21) rather than a not so perfect one that they could have achieved 10 years back if they wanted..

That's one place PAF did a good job with JF 17, accepting it following the 80-20 rule

It's not only IAF, but also IA that has a attitude of only acquiring "Perfect machines" instead of getting a machine and upgrading it to "perfection level"

 

[SQ8]

forces indeed tend to hide their incompetence and villify babus.
Yes any nation rich or poor has to make some choices and there is a price for human soldier's life. If you make it too pricey, you lose war without fighting it.
I believe those who think our boys deserve the best in the world are naive.

And if it was really that serious, I would have expected air chiefs to resign in protest over delay.

Perhaps a real life "rang-de-basanti" is needed.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Perhaps a real life "rang-de-basanti" is needed.

Hardly. The Raffys are coming now- what more can be done now. Stop living in the past all of you.

 

[SQ8]

Hardly. The Raffys are coming now- what more can be done now. Stop living in the past all of you.

Unless you learn from the past.. you'll be sitting in 2040 with Rafales falling out of the sky and crying over the same thing.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

More than a medal.. he deserves a new aircraft where he does have his heart racing every other day.

Good one ....

 

[karan.1970]

Under appreciation is only part of the issue. A greater integration of the private and public sectors will provide a solution. If a Private sector firm has a stake in a program.. it can lobby the babus for faster process.

And wont be above kickbacks either

But you are right.. And the success of this model in the USA is for all to see..

It's not only IAF, but also IA that has a attitude of only acquiring "Perfect machines" instead of getting a machine and upgrading it to "perfection level"

True... And that's because both these arms have cornered the lion's share of national attention in the past..Navy on the other hand had been the neglected child and is now doing much better on the modernization drive because it knows how to use meager resources more efficiently

 

[duhastmish]

What did they do with this mig21 may be more than avionics or weapons

They need a lantern or emergency light ?

 

[karan.1970]

It's not only IAF, but also IA that has a attitude of only acquiring "Perfect machines" instead of getting a machine and upgrading it to "perfection level"

And really, you do not need a perfect machine.. Only a machine better than what your enemy has.. and in time!!!

 

[Abingdonboy]

Unless you learn from the past.. you'll be sitting in 2040 with Rafales falling out of the sky and crying over the same thing.

Bit of a moot point. The reason the Mig-21s weren't retied earlier was almost entirely down to a lack of resources. You've heard about the "lost decade" sir?

 

[The_Sidewinder]

Thank god MKI took over the bases in Assam. Fly by manuvours of MKI's just mesmerises us. Gud by to vintage migs. We gonna miss their roar.

 

[SQ8]

Bit of a moot point. The reason the Mig-21s weren't retied earlier was almost entirely down to a lack of resources. You've heard about the "lost decade" sir?

a bit of indecision.

 

[Abingdonboy]

a bit of indecision.

Indecision was only a small part of it. There simply was 0 funds.

 

[nik22]

Perhaps a real life "rang-de-basanti" is needed.

lol, well said

Thank god MKI took over the bases in Assam. Fly by manuvours of MKI's just mesmerises us. Gud by to vintage migs. We gonna miss their roar.

are you in Assam?