Featured IAF Mi-17-V5 Helicopter carrying CDS Bipin Rawat with family crashes

[Tornado23]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1469707909185474564

...their disgusting behavior is there for everyone to see.....

Is this news true?

Also their behaviour has been seen by many, yet no matter what we do or what others do, they will still persist with this bakwas till the end of time. They won the internet war, purely by numbers and being degenerates.

 

[S Hussain]

Rest in hell you dirty kaatchi

 

[Thorough Pro]

Why are they carrying that body face down?

Doesn't bipin rawat have such small feet and toes?...........

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Why are they carrying that body face down?

Apparently his face was burnt to a crisp and his nose and eyes were hanging out....... .......................but more surprising were how small bipin rawat's feet and toes were..........

 

[Bilal9]

Does IAF follows any protocol regarding the weather conditions. As per the video, there was lots of fog yet they chose to fly under such circumtances and in the end asking for trouble. Who gave it a go ahead to fly especially when there was no emergency. Very unprofessional of the pilots to fly in an area which is full of mountains and surrounded with thick fog.

Video Appears To Show Gen Bipin Rawat's Chopper Crash, No Air Force Comment

Chief of Defence Staff General Bipin Rawat's helicopter is seen flying near the Nilgiris in Tamil Nadu and vanishing into the mist in a viral video that has emerged after India's top general was killed along with 12 others on Wednesday.

www.ndtv.com

Sometimes pilots are pressured to fly by superiors in these conditions. Such was also the case when The Andra Pradesh Chief Minister (YSR) lost his life with a few of his associates in a similar heli crash in Karnool, in the same vicinity, in September 2009.

In most countries, this kind of high profile crash and death to a CM would have brought in some semblance of redress to IAF and civilian flying procedures during fog and inclement weather in mountainous terrain, but I guess not in India.

andhra pradesh chief minister helicopter crash: Sep 3: When CM Rajasekhara Reddy's helicopter went missing, IAF's Mi-8 helicopter searched for 25 hours » Press24 News English

New DelhiThe body of Yeduguri Sandinti Rajasekhara Reddy, the former Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh, popularly known as YSR, was found on September 3 in 2009. The helicopter carrying him went missing in the forests of Nallamalla on September 2 and his mutilated body was found the next day on...

english.press24.in

 

[Bilal9]

The question is not correct! Helicopters fly in fog when equipped with the proper instrumentation. These flights are conducted under Instrument Flight Regulations (IFR) and are permissible provided that the pilot is qualified for flying in this flight regime, and the helicopter possesses the necessary instrumentation. Many small helicopters are not so equipped, and can only be operated under Visual Flight Regulations (VFR). Most civilian helicopter operations are under VFR conditions; the military often times operates under IFR conditions as the helicopters are larger, more sophisticated and capable.

The Mi-17 V5 is one of the latest Russian Mi-8/17/117 series helis delivered to IAF and widely used for VVIP carrying duties. Putin himself uses a couple of these. Mi-17 V5s (being large transport helis) are equipped with IFR and terrain avoidance equipment (AFAIK), however all the equipment in the world won't help you if you don't understand the limitations of the terrain avoidance equipment and take unnecessary risks. I have seen the cockpit equipment in similar newer Mi-17's in BAF inventory (Mi-117) and they are all modern, and glass cockpit equipped.

Hindsight is always 20/20 but it seems cavalier risks were taken for sure (under whose pressure we will not know), let's wait till the black box is recovered and analyzed in Russia. I am sure the dead pilot will get most of the blame, whatever the actual cause.

 

[Bilal9]

For those wondering about upgrading our own PAF and BAF Mi-17's and Mi-117's to western reliable glass cockpit standard (including terrain avoidance and ground proximity warning system), Honeywell offers a complete package, integrated by a company in Kelowna, British Columbia. This integration company is rather familiar on working with all Kazan Helicopter products, including the Mi-17 and Mi-117's. Details,

https://performanceaccel.honeywell.com/~/media/Products/Cockpit%20Displays/mi-17_pdf/Mi-17_Primus_Epic_CDSR.ashx

 

[baqai]

just wondering if these heli's have some sort of TFR (terrain following radar) or TA (terrain avoidance) for such scenarios? in passenger aircrafts they get audible "terrain ahead, pull up pull up pull up" warnings, don't they get such things in military aircrafts?

 

[Maarkhoor]

just wondering if these heli's have some sort of TFR (terrain following radar) or TA (terrain avoidance) for such scenarios? in passenger aircrafts they get audible "terrain ahead, pull up pull up pull up" warnings, don't they get such things in military aircrafts?

If you go by Indian records they often turned of such alarms....Look what happened on 27/2 they switch it off friend and foe system and shoot down by own anti aircraft missiles.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

what i believe that the pilots wanted to have an emergency landing on a ground due to thick fog in the air but they couldn't see the hilly terrain properly thus flying low and later crashing down when it was already too late. When there was instructions to fly the copter above 6,600 ft than why was it flying so low ? unless the pilots to have an emergency landing

 

[Bilal9]

just wondering if these heli's have some sort of TFR (terrain following radar) or TA (terrain avoidance) for such scenarios? in passenger aircrafts they get audible "terrain ahead, pull up pull up pull up" warnings, don't they get such things in military aircrafts?

Please see post no. 744 above. You can retrofit the old ones with a glass avionics pkg. from Honeywell, or I believe kazan Helicopter (mfr.) also offers Russian made glass avionics as retrofits which include the "Terrain avoiding" feature. Some of the older Mi-8's in PAF/BAF inventory can be candidates for this when they are sent back to Kazan Helicopter for engine overhauls and "c" checks.

"Terrain following" and "Terrain avoiding" are two entirely different features.

"Terrain avoiding" feature is what gives audible warnings like "pull up, terrain ahead".

"Terrain following" is a feature in MILITARY avionics where you set a minimum height in radar (say 200 feet or so) and the radar will instruct the airplane navigation system to alter height (manually or automatically) to follow terrain pattern and keep 200 feet above it at all times.

"Terrain following" feature is used to fool ground radar by intruding fighters into enemy territory which come in at tree top height - ground radar typically cannot differentiate intruding enemy fighters below a certain height and cannot see intruding aircraft.

Terrain-following radar - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Super Falcon]

May be one of the sensible reason explained out many conspiracies
Bipin rawat ws most decorated indian chief of staff have been included us military hall of fame i dont see indian govt wanted him dead

He was very close to modi and even sidelined ajit doval

 

[Myth_buster_1]

May be one of the sensible reason explained out many conspiracies
Bipin rawat ws most decorated indian chief of staff have been included us military hall of fame i dont see indian govt wanted him dead

He was very close to modi and even sidelined ajit doval

Sensiable? This guy is r3fering to year old video which was shotdowm by a manpad lol

 

[kingQamaR]

A pilot normally flies using VFR (Visual Flight Rules.) That essentially means they see where they’re going, and normally use landmarks as reference points.

Some pilots have instrument ratings. To fly with instruments is called IFR or Instrument Flight Rules. This is how commercial pilots fly, when they have to operate at night, in clouds or fog.

Helicopters, like other aircraft, can also be operated using instruments, but for the usual work a helicopter is called upon to do, which is at low altitude and with numerous ground obstacles, it’s especially risky.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

But But But
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Fish starts rotting from the head....

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