IAF fighter squadrons to rise to 42 by 2022

[shchinese]

we dont care where we will get all that stuff coz WE CAN GET IT if the MMRCA goes to america expect lots of similar stuff in our arsenal you guys use pakistan to counter us USA will use us and japan to counter you as simple as that...........

1. we will never use Pakistan to counter anyone, they are an independent nation with very large population + thousands of years of civilization.

2. you can buy as many fighters as you want, but at the end of the day, LCA is still being "tested", arjun is still a piece of junk.

 

[Omar1984]

we dont care where we will get all that stuff coz WE CAN GET IT if the MMRCA goes to america expect lots of similar stuff in our arsenal you guys use pakistan to counter us USA will use us and japan to counter you as simple as that...........

Japan already said its in Japan's best interst to see a successful China...Japan will not gain anything from destabilizing China, Japan will lose more from it and Japanese-Chinese relations are doing great. Japan and China help each other's economy a lot. The Japanese are not that horrible like you Indians.

 

[duhastmish]

sir omar , its not about what says or what is, see even a proper Pakistan is first requirment of india, and stable plaistna means safty from taliban and good political and social relationship, Its a hard fact but things are something else,
same japan and china they might say and have what ever political and diplomatic relation but history is just too sour.

 

[heartwinlion]

we are out of track my dear friend

 

[shchinese]

Shchinese the LCA project is getting problems continuously because the IAF requirements are highly dynamic .Where as the CCP pushed the j-10 into the PLAAFS throat even though the PLAAF thoroughly hates that bird .Doing genuine R&D is quite hard when compared to reverse engineering.

PLAAF requested the J-9 project to be stopped at the early 80s as it was clear to them the fighter couldn't meet the requirement.

PLAN refused ALL delivery of the Song class sub from the Wuhan Shipyard last year and 3 sub are still being kept in the open space, with very high probability they will never go into service.

now you tell me based on such well known facts, how you come up with the conclusion that J-10 entered service when PLAAF hated it?

The Japanese hardly spend 1% of their GDP and that accounts to 50-60 billion dollars .
Currently they wing are clipped by the US.If US really wants to contain china all it needs to do is unleash Japan

under the assumption that our DF missiles are all junks. do you believe that? you got your missiles missing after firing, we have satellite knocked down using our missiles. keep this in mind, we are different, this is rule No.1.

For rule No.2, Japan is the only developed nation that can get serious surplus from trading with China. tell me why Japanese citizens/companies should support any aggressive action against China that could cost themselves 200 BILLION USD surplus a year + millions of jobs? to defend India's national interest?

Thirdly, please check what happened between Taiwan and the China mainland in the past 10 years. 10 years ago, Taiwan had all those 3/3.5 generation fighters (e.g. IDF) and wonderful ships, they had the feeling that mainland was just a sinking shitty boat. 10 years on, they found the mainland now building 3-4 054/053 class ships a year, plus a few subs, and dozens of 3/3.5 generation fighters, is it still possible to let them catch up? the same story will be repeated soon between China and Japan. You can even argue that the Korea navy is slightly better than our Navy at this stage, I would AGREE with you. but in ten years, things will change dramatically.

to conclude my post, please have a look at the photos in the following url. students/readers waiting for the opening of the local libraries, this can be observed in almost ALL universities/major libraries in China and I personally witnessed how crazy hard we Chinese can work. we two nations are just different.

east part of China

south

freezing cold north

west region

national library during the Chinese new year public holiday.

not convinced? for the sake of your children's benefits, don't mess up with us.
IQ and Global Inequality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Omar1984]

sir omar , its not about what says or what is, see even a proper Pakistan is first requirment of india, and stable plaistna means safty from taliban and good political and social relationship, Its a hard fact but things are something else,
same japan and china they might say and have what ever political and diplomatic relation but history is just too sour.

Japanese-Chinese relations have improved a lot in this past decade and Japan has helped China's economy a lot and China helped Japan's economy a lot...Japan will lose so much if it turns its back against China, they have gained a lot from each other........sadly I can't say the same about Indian-Pakistani relations.

 

[shchinese]

Japan already said its in Japan's best interst to see a successful China...Japan will not gain anything from destabilizing China, Japan will lose more from it and Japanese-Chinese relations are doing great. Japan and China help each other's economy a lot. The Japanese are not that horrible like you Indians.

Japan is making 200 Billion USD surplus every single year from China. however, our lovely Indian friends are still doing their day dreaming.

all these stats are well reported in media of the west and east, they can all be accessed without any charge, why Indians just refuse to read and keep cheating themselves?

 

[foofighter]

but we Chinese don't want to compare ourselves with you. I mean at the current stage, you are not even remotely comparable, you have already been well countered in our war in 1961. given the current progress you are having, I don't think you guys can catch up in the next 4-5 decades.

let's don't do any trolling. just a quick photo on our fighters.

India can do all the catching up it wants. You see, India is a democracy..China is a communist country. So we have issues apart from military as well. India spends more than China on social welfare. Our defence budget gets overruled by our purchasing power.

you can even buy 140 fighter squadrons during peaceful time, as that is just about money. however when you couldn't even design a light combat aircraft, you really shouldn't be that confident about your armed forces - during a real war you will see our factories building fighters 24 hours a day but you can just beg russia 24 hours a day to sell you more. what is worse? we have 2 trillion USD on hand and thus if buying is everything then we can buy far more.

India has 1.8 trillion dollars, which is quite comparable. And this doesnt include Indian wealth in foreign banks.

for infrastructure, you are about 50 years behind. look what we are doing in our remote areas, these are just a very tiny part of what we have built in the past 2-3 years.

You know you can talk all chinese mumbo-jumbo, but i'll give you the truth.
China produces 3 times the electricity of India; more than 4 times the oil; and more than 1.5 times the natural gas. On the consumption side, China consumes more than twice the oil of India and almost 1.5 times the natural gas. Which makes China 2.5 tmes more likely to face a resource crunch in the coming years.

60% of Indias economy is generated by agriculture, compared to China's 40%.So with more technological advanced method of agriculture, it would increase people working in industrial sector 46 times, boosting output by over 34 times..amounting to an increse of 1.2 trillion dollar by 2015. Demographically, 68% of India is young, compared to megre total of China's 34%. Which means enourmous workforce for India the next 80 years, which will surpass China's to become the highest in the world.

The Indian diaspora has accounted for less than 10 percent of the foreign money flowing to India. compared to China's 60%.. And yet India had a growth rate of 9% before globalmeltdown.

China and India have pursued radically different development strategies. India is not outperforming China overall, but it is doing better in certain key areas. That success may enable it to catch up with and perhaps even overtake China.

 

[shchinese]

India can do all the catching up it wants. You see, India is a democracy..China is a communist country. So we have issues apart from military as well. India spends more than China on social welfare. Our defence budget gets overruled by our purchasing power.

India is a democracy so what? after 60 of implmenting the democracy, you still fails to protect the rights of your mothers. 20% literacy gap between male and female. tell me why China should have such kind of "democracy"?

social welfare? any stats to support your crap? how many hospitals you build every year? how many government supported students in higher education institutions? how many government paid oversea student currently studying oversea?

India has 1.8 trillion dollars, which is quite comparable. And this doesnt include Indian wealth in foreign banks.

now I am going to stop here as clearly you are just a liar.

reserve bank of india clearly shows the foreign reserve is less than 300 billion USD and you tell me you have 1.8 trillion dollars.
Reserve Bank of India

are you saying your reserve bank is releasing some highly inaccurate stats?

no troll, show me reliable stats. or call yourself liar.

 

[duhastmish]

For such a big list of aircraft india need a good aircraft carrier - may be from chinese if the deal struck as shown in this pic may be.

 

[wangrong]

Now back to topic of discussion IAF fighter squadrons to rise to 42 by 2022..

shcinese,不要浪费时间扯那些没用的，让他们生活在自己的世界里不是很好？你难道想让他们从错误的道路改正过来？

 

[zombie:-)]

1. we will never use Pakistan to counter anyone, they are an independent nation with very large population + thousands of years of civilization.

2. you can buy as many fighters as you want, but at the end of the day, LCA is still being "tested", arjun is still a piece of junk.

what makes you say arjun is a piece of junk have you driven it

dont shoot of your mouth

 

[shchinese]

For such a big list of aircraft india need a good aircraft carrier - may be from chinese if the deal struck as shown in this pic may be.

grow up mate, I feel really sorry for your brainwashed head.

this is the Green Boat Campsite in Shanghai, a theme park, used for entertainment purpose for kids.

photos here:
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btw: do you have such parks in India for your kids?

 

[shchinese]

what makes you say arjun is a piece of junk have you driven it

dont shoot of your mouth

because your army consistently refuse to accept arjun.

for reverse engineering, maybe you can now tell me for the Type-99A2 is reverse engineered from which MBT? I do have the feeling that Arjun is a failed reverse engineered German tank.

 

[CrazyEagle9]

Please, stick to the topic guys..

we will have 8 squadrons of MRCA, and 1 squadron of LCA so 9 more...but how can we achieve 42 figure..?????


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