IAF bans beards for muslims

[beetel]

This is again hindu india's zionist hinduist kautilyan diplomatic attempt to keep Muslims under psychological pressure and also pave the way thereby to hinduize (culturally) the Muslims gradually. It has been designed to make the distance between a Muslim and his path of belief, Islam and thus the hindu zionist forces are deliberately sandwiching the Muslims, who are a minority and face the hostility of hindu majority in everywhere, so that Muslims can feel a sense of insecurity in them and also get victimized by the politics of fear, a fear from the mighty zionist hinduist fascist forces as afr as the defence related service is concerned. In other spheres, Muslims are always discriminated in other ways. Thus a deliberate attempt to discriminate has a psychological impact. Indeed, zionist hindus want to make the Muslims feel that they are discriminated because they are the minority.

Respected sir
I have read almost a dozen of your post everythin is same from top to bottom..come up with something new anti India slogan..
will worth the time and space..Thanks..

 

[Communist]

who says that dark age is over...certainly not for.....

2. Total number of judges in Supreme Court = 23
number of muslims =2 (8.7&#37
Chief Justice is from the so called lower caste
Thre is one sikh and Christian Justice also.
(source: Supreme Court of India - CJI & Sitting Judges)


RK

Yes, now the according to the last census Muslims alone constitute more than 14% out of the total population... then it should have been 14% at least in the Supreme court alone apart from High Courts and District courts and others....

And it is again the Kautilyan diplomacy of the hindu india to show how liberal hindu india is... thus it sometimes give concessions to Dalits by making them stooge president or stooge chief justice... as in 1992 they made a dalit lay the first foundational brick to build Rama Mandira after pillaging the great Bubri Musjid to the ground....

who says that dark age is over...??? certainly not for those who ride on the rathas and violently kill innocent people and enslave them using brutal force.....

Dude, again, please no kautilyan diplomacy with me.... now its time a dalits and shudras should get rid of the deceptive hinduism and embrace Islam...
(personal suggestion)...

 

[rubyjackass]

Again... Kautilya Hindu...


OK guys think about it without any backdrop.

An airforce asked its men to sport beards only if their religion absolutely requires they should sport a beard.

Is that so offensive?

I still think some may find it difficult.

 

[ahmeddsid]

I thought Communists were atheists! A God Fearing Communist- What an Oxymoron! And Please stop Copy pasting the same Dialogue every damn possible where!

 

[ahmeddsid]

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[ahmeddsid]

Yes, now the according to the last census Muslims alone constitute more than 14% out of the total population... then it should have been 14% at least in the Supreme court alone apart from High Courts and District courts and others....

And it is again the Kautilyan diplomacy of the hindu india to show how liberal hindu india is... thus it sometimes give concessions to Dalits by making them stooge president or stooge chief justice... as in 1992 they made a dalit lay the first foundational brick to build Rama Mandira after pillaging the great Bubri Musjid to the ground....

who says that dark age is over...??? certainly not for those who ride on the rathas and violently kill innocent people and enslave them using brutal force.....

Dude, again, please no kautilyan diplomacy with me.... now its time a dalits and shudras should get rid of the deceptive hinduism and embrace Islam...
(personal suggestion)...

I thought Communists were atheists! A God Fearing Communist- What an Oxymoron! And Please stop Copy pasting the same Dialogue every damn possible where!

 

[Communist]

Communist is completely biased against India...wat ever u give the facts or he wont be conveniced at all.... any way.....

Dr BR Ambedkar formed a constitution of India making all the rules and regularities for Indian Judiciary system. By the way BR Ambedkar wasnt a Brahmin. He was a DALIT. True talent....
We can observe so many ppl like Ambedkar....

The Communist is not biased, the Communist is awake and conscious. The Communist is not against humanity, the Communist is against zionist racist hinuduist oppression, discrimination, deception.... The Communist is against such mindset, and the Communist is not neutral, the Communist is on the side of , equality, fraternity, humanity.... Since Islam stands for humanity, so the Communist is on the side of Islam, and you people if want to call the Communist an Islamist, the Communist is proud to be designated with such address....

Ambedkar had been discriminated against by the brahmins, during his childhood, he was discriminated in class rooms, he could not sit with the brahmin students, he could not drink water from the same pot the brahmins used, he could not go to the villages brahmins lived.... and now when brahmins shed crocodile tears, such tears should be taken with much caution....

Ambedkar decided finally to convert himself into another religion...(right??) but he made a blunder having been influenced and brainwashed by hinuist racist brahmins to embrace Buddhism, which is a fake, another kautilyan version of hinduist diplomacy.... along with him over 10 lakhs Mahars (untouchables) got conerted into Buddhism.... Had they become Muslims then, this racist zionist hinduist india would have become truly a multicultural and secular country as we dream....

 

[anand]

The Communist is not biased, the Communist is awake and conscious. The Communist is not against humanity, the Communist is against zionist racist hinuduist oppression, discrimination, deception.... The Communist is against such mindset, and the Communist is not neutral, the Communist is on the side of , equality, fraternity, humanity.... Since Islam stands for humanity, so the Communist is on the side of Islam, and you people if want to call the Communist an Islamist, the Communist is proud to be designated with such address....

Ambedkar had been discriminated against by the brahmins, during his childhood, he was discriminated in class rooms, he could not sit with the brahmin students, he could not drink water from the same pot the brahmins used, he could not go to the villages brahmins lived.... and now when brahmins shed crocodile tears, such tears should be taken with much caution....

Ambedkar decided finally to convert himself into another religion...(right??) but he made a blunder having been influenced and brainwashed by hinuist racist brahmins to embrace Buddhism, which is a fake, another kautilyan version of hinduist diplomacy.... along with him over 10 lakhs Mahars (untouchables) got conerted into Buddhism.... Had they become Muslims then, this racist zionist hinduist india would have become truly a multicultural and secular country as we dream....

Are you sure ?
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An inconvenient truth for secular CPM: Nandigram victims’ mainly Muslim face

Subrata Nagchoudhury
Posted: Nov 20, 2007 at 0000 hrs IST
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Kolkata, November 19 * The first fallout of what has happened at Nandigram is that it weakens our case in Gujarat. The CPM, which always speaks of high ideals, is indulging in such shameful acts of violence. This is not an issue that concerns Muslims only. It’s a national issue: Kamal Faruqui, permanent member, All India Muslim Personal Law Board
* The only good thing with regard to Muslims is that in the last 30 years of Left rule in West Bengal, they were safe. What happened in Nandigram now puts a question mark on that, too: Manzoor Alam, general secretary, All India Milli Council

THIS is, perhaps, the worst-kept secret of the Nandigram violence that’s now being talked about openly. And is reason for embarrassment to the CPM which swears by its secular credentials: a majority of those targeted by its party cadres as they reclaim their turf are Muslim.

Certainly, the violence is political, not communal — the protests were over proposed land acquisition and a turf war, not any religious issue — but the demographics of Nandigram and the nature of opposition to the CPM have ensured that wherever you go, in relief camp after relief camp, most of the refugees are Muslim.

Local administration officials admit that at least 65% of those huddled in the largest relief camp at the Brojomohan Tiari Institute are Muslim. So is the victim of the first gangrape case officially registered and eight of those who have been killed so far.

Then there is the reference the National Human Rights Commission has made to Gujarat in its indictment of the state government. And, ironically, the CPM, at pains to draw a distinction between Gujarat and Nandigram to argue against a debate in Parliament, has ended up reinforcing this aspect.

Ask CPM MP Mohammed Salim and he says this is a mere coincidence. “Those who are trying to draw the Gujarat-Nandigram parallel are trying to undermine the seriousness of the Gujarat riots. If a particular area has 46% Muslim population it is natural that they will also be affected.”

When contacted, Abdus Sattar, Minister of State for Minorities Welfare and Development and Madrassa Education, says: “A large number of Muslims might have been affected but what happened in Nandigram was not on the basis of religion. The Chief Minister is the minister for minorities, I have no other comment to make.”

What both the MP and the Minister do not admit is that sections in the party are concerned over a possible backlash given how a majority of the victims in Nandigram are Muslim.

Consider the following:

* In areas where the Government proposed land acquisition for the chemical SEZ, almost 65% of the population is Muslim, largely the middle peasantry and sharecroppers. Says Siddiqullah Chowdhury of Jamiat-e-Ulema-Hind which became the backbone of the political opposition: “We could mobilise Muslims because they are the ones most dependent on land for livelihood. Most of them are unrecorded sharecroppers haunted by the fear that they might not get any compensation for not possessing any valid documents. In the core area of the proposed SEZ, a large number of Muslims owned small shops and were engaged in tailoring and zari work.”
* So it’s no surprise that the top rung of BUPC is Muslim: the chief is Abu Sufiyan, a former CPM panchayat leader who the party claims was expelled because of alleged financial irregularities. Sufiyan, however claims he fell out of favour because he “refused to carry out illegal orders.”
* Working president of the BUPC is Abdus Samad who owes allegiance to the Congress. Helping Sufiyan and Samad are Abu Taher of the Trinamool Congress, Ashrafultullah who is the Treasurer and executive committee member Sayum Kazi.
* Muslims make up a significant section of the villages in Nandigram’s Block 1 — the core of the agitation — which include Muhammadpur, Kendamarichar, Jalpai, Samsabad, Daudpur, Kalicharanpur, Garchakrebaria and Satengabad-Ranichawk.
* Admits BDO Ashok Sarkar: “In most of these villages, a large number of houses damaged belong to Muslims. They were from both sides but obviously those under BPUC have suffered more.” One estimate, according to Samad, is that in the latest cycle of violence, 500 houses of Muslims have either been burnt or damaged.

While the CPM may see in these facts nothing more than mere coincidence, several powerful, influential voices from the Muslim community — and the Opposition — are now speaking up.

Says pro-CPM Salman Kurshid, secretary, Muslim Institute: “Muslims in the state are thoroughly frustrated at what happened in Nandigram. The High Court has also called it (the March 14 firing) unconstitutional. It was just like in Gujarat where Narendra Modi gave his men three days to wrap up their operation. In Nandigram, CPM cadres were let loose from November 6 to 9. The Muslims have been saying that there is no difference between BJP and the so called progressive Marxists.”

Said the Akhbar-e-Mashriq, the largest Urdu newspaper in Kolkata: “Believers of Marxist philosophy have never accepted democracy by heart. For remaining in power they can resort to any cruelty and term those legally valid. Both the BJP and CPM intend to make common people mental slaves to attain their goal...For God’s sake, Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee, let the (CRPF) jawans do their work, and issue instructions to the CPM cadres to return to barracks.”

The respected Azad Hind also wrote on November 15: “In this tense and dirty ambience, everybody should stay cautious because power’s toxicity can put any one on the wrong path. Specially, Muslim people need to take steps keeping in mind the situation.”

Parliament stalled, din in Andhra House over attack on Muslims
* Nandigram issue forces adjournment of both Houses of Parliament as NDA demands debate on violence, CPM counters it by raising the 2002 Gujarat riots issue
* In Andhra Pradesh Assembly, CPM and Majlis Ittehadul Muslimeen trade charges after MIM leader A Owaisi compares Nandigram to Gujarat. “West Bengal Chief Minister is speaking the language of Modi. He has justified attacks by CPM cadres. Muslims are being targeted there,” says Owaisi
* NHRC chairperson Justice S Rajendra Babu slams West Bengal government, says Nandigram and Godhra “a severe assault... the worst scars on the face of the nation” Page 3

(With Md Safi Samshi, Kolkata & Jayanth Jacob, New Delhi )
An inconvenient truth for secular CPM: Nandigram victims’ mainly Muslim face - Express India

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[x_man]

What a mess IAF is creating!! Come on the guy is just an Aircraftsman, he is not even a pilot. Similar situation was also created in PAF too few years back when few pilots were asked to trim their beards as per the Dress Regulation AFO (Airforce Order). The AFO clearly specified the length, shape and type of beard that a uniform person can keep. However, the thing went into media and it was portrayed as if PAF was asking them to shave off the beards completely….Officers who refused to comply with the regulations, were court martialed and they are history now…..What an utter waste …But anyhow, the message from Airforce was clear: you don’t abide by rules, you don’t belong here…simple..

No Airforce in the world (perhaps other than Indian AF now..) forbids growing or keeping a beard. People not only keep beards because of religious grounds but personal reasons or liking too. I have seen (few) USAF, RAF pilots with beards…Lot of navy guys (obviously other than those in Top Gun) while on cruise grow beards…Its quite common in Naval Aviation world. Scores of Airline pilots also keep beards in west and nobody seems to be bothered about that….Its a personal choice and shall be left to a person….

Someone mentioned here that beard risks oxygen leak from the mask….The whole O2 mask thing probably came as just an excuse for those small-chinned senior officer types to do away with the stuff they don't like. This whole oxygen mask thingy is also just another myth and there is no problem till the time one is keeping the beard as per the specified rules…Pilots have been flying all sort of military jets and handling all sort of grave emergencies with beard on since decades with absolutely no problem ….Its not even a issue out there in the real world…..Can anyone quote me a single incident where pilot became hypoxic and crashed because he had beard???

interest of cohesiveness in a combatant force like the IAF and also keeping in view the security implications.”

What security implications ??? If all known terrorists had a beard, wouldn’t they shave there beards upon commencing there attacks and blending in with the non-bearded non terrorists ones??? Try Goggle image search 'September 11 Hijackers.' The first image shows all the known suspects. Tell me which one has a proper beard...??

IAF should realise that its not only Muslims or Sikhs that keep beard, lot of people with no or little faith keep beards too….It has never been officailly banned in any airforce …I am sure there will be some Hindu officers too with beard. One shouldn’t mix this issue with religion…Till the time a guy is keeping under the prescribed rules; nobody should have an issue…

 

[Flintlock]

^I think you're making it out to be a bigger mess than it actually is.

 

[afriend]

So what is optional can be banned??????????????????? Tomorrow, your hindu secularists will say that since eating cow is not compulsory so muslims in india should not slaughter cow????????????????? Where will this stop?????

Just to brush up your memory, in a secular state, the government is supposedly neutral and does not favor one religious group over the other. So how come Sikhs are getting the favor and mulsims are not????? by the way, who has given authority to a military organization of hindu state to translate islam for its adherents??????????????? if it is not discrimination, then why people are going to courts?????????? this clearly shows that people are aggrieved..................... So, banning muslim signs is secularism in hindu india right???????????????????
Well done, great going secular and shining hidustan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Well india is also a country where muslims have been given haj subsidy and reservations in many states..!!! And also please note that cow slaughter is banned in select States where Majority are Hindus..!!! But even in the said states, muslims slaughter cows and we still get beef. I dont think any law enforcemnt have enforced the law. However i have also seen many hotels run by muslim have publicly displyaed they dont serve beef keeping in mind the relgious sentiments of hindus.. But still rest of india does have beef as their faviorate item in the menu..!!! Secularism means you are free to practise your religion without hurting the sentiments of the other..!!! And india i belive majority respect each others sentiments and try not to hurt it..!!!!

 

[x_man]

^I think you're making it out to be a bigger mess than it actually is.

Not creating any more mess Flint, just giving my POV..

PAF has been through this beard fiasco and I know the emotions that run thru the men in a situation like this…I have seen it first hand....It doesn’t take long to blow this situation out of proportions or becoming even messier …

 

[Prodigy17]

Young Man before you jump the gun. Please read Royal Army Act from which both the Pakistan Armed Forces Act ( ammended by Gen M to try civilians under Army Act) and the Indian Army, Navy and Airforce Act originate and you will tuck your tail between your legs and hide it where no one will kick it.

Old lout, let by gones be by gones. Have you bothered to read the army act of pakistan recently??????????? it does not prohibit anyone from keeping a beard, its a matter of personal choice. We dont really cherish the times of colonial occupation so forget about what the british army did or did not do.

The above you can google but I will post what the Naval Act says below

"The rights conferred by the Constitution in their application to persons subject to naval law shall be restricted or abrogated to the extent provide in this Act. Fundamental rights to apply to persons subject to naval law with modifications "

So........... with modification means no fundamental rights at all????????? it clearly says " restricted or abrogated to the extent provided in this act". As per you it should say something like " governed only by navy laws and law of the land doesn't apply". Anyway, colonials should not be any criteria for democracies which claim to have a minority as big as muslims in hindustan.

Young man, You have never had the guts to shed one salty sweat for your country in uniform, let alone blood and guts for it but feel like Rambo IV behind the computer and talk about the Armed forces and their rules and regulations?

Well, you are again being a dimwit here. How do you know i have not "shed one salty sweat for my country"????????? is it that you have to wear a uniform to attain the honor of shedding one salty sweat?????/ so the civil service, ambassadors, politicians and beaurocrats are all morons???????? Well, that may be so in the racist paradise which you grace but not so in any nation state where even a farmer's salty sweat is as important as the soldier's. Spare us the churlish arguments.

Have you ever heard of NBCD ?

Go back to your desk and post on Lollywood or Hollywood.com

Your posts will be appreciated there.

Regards

[/QUOTE]

Have you heard about ICMSD ???????????
You better go back to your bed and stop being a pain in *** for your own posterity less they throw you out.

Your cooperation will be surely appreciated by your own progeny.

 

[Prodigy17]

One thing I dont understand is why pakistan ppl are so intersted to show their interst and pose like helping Indian muslims...
could you give some data where you really helped us!!!!. Why dont u speak for other country muslims...This rule is there is most of the countries...why dont u object...? Does china allow its airforce with beard? did u question them..

lol...show off...!

Contrary to what you think, we are more interested in seeing your spurious secularism rightly bite the dust.

 

[Prodigy17]

Indian muslims fought with Pakistani army like anyone else with full patroitism. They got highest awards;

Abdul Hamid (soldier) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Indian army is very professional and patriotic. Its never involved in politics like Pakistani army. It fights in the name of nation and not any ideology.

RK

Most recent rewards for loyalty being demolition of Babri mosque, massacre in gujrat and third class citizen status in the shining hidustan.

Great motivation to fight for and win more such "rewards"........