IAC-1 shaping up nicely

[Rajaraja Chola]

A welcome news after long news of delay's

 

[arjunMk3]

well i wish we don't have sex with ships even i went on boards naval ships submarines in past didn't feel them sexy



wash it once forever man itna sex bhara hai brain main shadi ker lo ab

grow up man you cant have sex with every sexy "thing". Its not always about sex bacha

 

[srshkmr]

well i wish we don't have sex with ships even i went on boards naval ships submarines in past didn't feel them sexy



wash it once forever man itna sex bhara hai brain main shadi ker lo ab

Well anything with killer looks is sexy for me. i didnt intend it "sex"y way.. but if you take it like that you need to wash yours bro

 

[BLING]

its better for india take that AC from russia as it is and work it at home like china did they buy in 25million$ damn as free

Sir there are diffrence between Liaoning and INS Vikrant . Its like comparing Modified Mig 21 of russian to Indian Tejas fighter jet . With creating her own A/C now India have a ability and confidence to go ahead with her Future 65,000+ Ton A/C INS Vishal . Building an AC is not a easy task . Even if Chinese build one at faster phase the quality and Effectiveness of A/C will differ

 

[Imran Khan]

Sir there are diffrence between Liaoning and INS Vikrant . Its like comparing Modified Mig 21 of russian to Indian Tejas fighter jet . With creating her own A/C now India have a ability and confidence to go ahead with her Future 65,000+ Ton A/C INS Vishal . Building an AC is not a easy task . Even if Chinese build one at faster phase the quality and Effectiveness of A/C will differ

yep i know but russia sucked too much money and do nothing till now its late and late and late . but i admit its not east task not only made but also used them . my best wishes with you guys .i wish these ACC never used ever against any human .

 

[BLING]

Important to Note is As Cochi ship yard said . Its a moral boost for Indian Ship Building industries . There are lots of diffrence between going to war with imported flashy weapons and Home grown weapons . Indian's moral boost is our Desi weapons . FEELS SO PROUD AND GREAT . We will do anything to win a war with Made in India weapon system. Just to Make our Home made Proud

Am Loving this Thread . Thank So Much . Feel Proud like an Indian

yep i know but russia sucked too much money and do nothing till now its late and late and late . but i admit its not east task not only made but also used them . my best wishes with you guys .i wish these ACC never used ever against any human .

I wish too Sir . These weapons never be used against Humanity . These are just Incase Machines . Am really wainting for the BEAST INS VISHAL . May be in 7-8 Years I will be showing it to my son

 

[BLING]

And am sure Typical Indian mind set . Wont let us to stop with INS VISHAL Alone India will go ahead for futuristic 80,000+ Ton A/C for sure or 100,000 T Super carrier

So does INS Vishal will have Nuclear Power plant or normal one ?

 

[S-DUCT]

And am sure Typical Indian mind set . Wont let us to stop with INS VISHAL Alone India will go ahead for futuristic 80,000+ Ton A/C for sure or 100,000 T Super carrier

So does INS Vishal will have Nuclear Power plant or normal one ?

Eye on future, India mulls options for nuclear-powered aircraft carrier | idrw.org
IN is seriously considering nuclear propulsion on IAC-2,but final decision on propulsion is yet to be taken.One thing is sure that it'll be CATOBAR type ACC.
According to PKS detailed study on next-gen nuke propulsion will begin shortly at DAE.

 

[BLING]

Eye on future, India mulls options for nuclear-powered aircraft carrier | idrw.org
IN is seriously considering nuclear propulsion on IAC-2,but final decision on propulsion is yet to be taken.One thing is sure that it'll be CATOBAR type ACC.
According to PKS detailed study on next-gen nuke propulsion will begin shortly at DAE.

Very Good info.. Cheers brother . And nice to know we will choose CATOBAR over Ski Jump . And what about system used on board . Steam propelled capult or Electro Magnetic ? Will give sell this technology . It will be a great help from USA

And one more doubt . Will INS Vishal will have 2 Nuclear Power plat or 1 ? If so what will be the power out put ?

Will it carry 40 Tejas + 9 Helicopters ? What its full capacity of Air Wing ?

 

[Alphacharlie]

yep i know but russia sucked too much money and do nothing till now its late and late and late . but i admit its not east task not only made but also used them . my best wishes with you guys .i wish these ACC never used ever against any human .

Mr Vetran 45k Warship is costing 2.5 Bn Including A/c What more do you want!!

 

[Imran Khan]

My Veran 45k Warship is costing 2.5 Bn Including A/c What more do you want!!

what abut all these lates and increases ?

 

[S-DUCT]

Very Good info.. Cheers brother . And nice to know we will choose CATOBAR over Ski Jump . And what about system used on board . Steam propelled capult or Electro Magnetic ? Will give sell this technology . It will be a great help from USA

And one more doubt . Will INS Vishal will have 2 Nuclear Power plat or 1 ? If so what will be the power out put ?

Will it carry 40 Tejas + 9 Helicopters ? What its full capacity of Air Wing ?

IN is both considering EMALS and Steam catapults,IMO it's more like that they'll go for steam catapults as US would only sell this technology to us if we agree to buy F-35B.If we do JV with france then it not too hard to develope steam catapult not to mention we can use our own fgihter jets like N-FGFA on it.

Since all nuke ACC have multiple Reactors so it's likely that IAC-2'll have 2 reactors each of 150-160 MW power.

 

[RoYaL~GuJJaR]

Now this is some serious Progress!!

Only Upper deck structure left!! I hope they will finish it before the deadline.

 

[ejaz007]

India's First Indigenous Carrier Faces Delays, Cost Growth

NEW DELHI — While India claims that its first home-built carrier, the Vikrant, will be fully operational by 2018, Indian Navy sources say that date is closer to 2020 since the ship is only about 30 percent complete.

On Aug. 12, India’s first indigenous aircraft carrier (IAC-1) will be launched nearly four years behind schedule. The ship is being built by state-owned Cochin Shipyard Limited at Kochi in southern India.

The aircraft carrier will be floated out of dry dock, then redocked in order to mount the propulsion system. Work will then begin on the deck and the weapon systems before sea trials. And while Defence Ministry officials say those trials will begin by 2016, Indian Navy sources say it will not be before 2018-19.

“Launch merely means they will float the IAC-1 from the dry dock [to outfit the interior],, which includes laying of pipes, and after that it will be dry docked again for integration of propulsion systems,” an Indian Navy source said

Not only will Vikrant’s induction be delayed, but sources add that the total cost of the carrier will be more than US $5 billion, including the aircraft and weapons systems. When the project was approved in 2003, the ship was estimated to cost around $500 million. Sources said the construction of the carrier, minus the weapon systems and aircraft, will cost more than $2.2 billion.

Indian Navy spokesman Cmdr. P.V. Satish insisted that IAC-1 will be inducted in 2018.

“First and foremost, it needs to be understood that constructing an aircraft carrier is a very complex task. At the time of keel laying of the IAC in 2009, it was estimated that the ship would be delivered by 2014-15,” he said. “However, due to delays in arrival of some machinery from foreign sources, which are essential prior to the launch of the ship, the Phase I launch of the ship has been delayed by around three years. There have been certain other delays also in finalizing the detailed design aspects due to uniqueness of the systems. Things are now in place and we look forward to a targeted delivery by 2018.”

Indian Navy sources countered that at the time of the launch, only the hull and the outer structure will be completed, about 30 percent of the total work needed for the carrier.

After laying piping, the carrier will be redocked to mount the gear box, hydraulic systems, generator systems and propulsion system.

Work will then focus on the hangar deck for aircraft, berthing spaces for 1,400 sailors, boiler room and the flight deck.

Before sea trials, workers will install the Israeli-made Barak air defense system, multi-function radar system, A630 close-in weapon system and combat management system, the sources added.

An Indian Navy official said this ship will be able to stop attacks from enemy aircraft and will have anti-submarine defense systems. All systems on board will be integrated through a combat management system.

The Vikrant will be 262 meters long and be able to accommodate around 30 aircraft, including helicopters.

“IAC-1 features a STOBAR [short take-off but arrested recovery] configuration with a ski-jump. The deck is designed to enable aircraft such as the MiG-29 to operate from the carrier. It will deploy up to 20 fixed-wing aircraft, primarily the Mikoyan MiG-29K and the naval variant of indigenous Tejas Mark 2, besides carrying 10 Kamov Ka-31 helicopters,” the Indian Navy official said.

The Navy plans to have three aircraft carriers; a final decision is awaited on the IAC-2, which would be another homemade carrier but would displace more than 60,000 tons, 20,000 tons more than Vikrant. IAC-2 is still in the design stage but will have a catapult deck.

“IAC-2 is currently on the design board. Various feasibility options for the carrier are presently being pursued. Detailed study on the type and complement of aircraft and the ships’ propulsion options is being progressed to further narrow down design options,” Satish said.

Despite the delays and ballooning cost of IAC-1, defense planners, Indian Navy officials and analysts agree that India must build — not import — its carriers.

“Getting modern carriers in the open market is not easy. Our experience with Vikramaditya [Russian-made Admiral Gorshkov] is evidence,” said Probal Ghosh, senior fellow, Observer Research Foundation, adding that the Navy should now concentrate on IAC-2 and begin construction as soon as possible.

“Personally, I don’t think India should look toward procuring an aircraft carrier from abroad. Indigenous development with foreign collaboration, transfer of technology in certain areas where we may not have the expertise as yet would be far more prudent,” said Anil Jai Singh, retired Indian Navy commodore and vice president of the National Maritime Foundation.

Having three carriers allows one to be stationed on each of India’s coasts, while the third would undergo repairs or perform other duties such as training.

“The Navy has a clearly spelt-out capability plan which factors a balanced growth and includes a plan to have two carrier battle groups,” Satish said. “This will naturally entail having three carriers with requisite support ships to form a battle group. All the components are equally important.”

India's First Indigenous Carrier Faces Delays, Cost Growth | Defense News | defensenews.com

 

[Alphacharlie]

what abut all these lates and increases ?

Even CNC knows anything from Russia come with Delay...Yes there were delays by 8 years here....However was this Delay predicted Yes/No---Sevmash Acted Smart Yes............There such massive retaliation that Putin got involved.

Conclusion - Russians know Many Contracts have slipped their hands eg MARs/Tact. Choppers/Heavy Lift Choppers.

You Flip a Coin ---Some Body or Other will Win -NOT YOU ALWAYS!!

I am certain Russia would have offered something in Bargain for the Delay which a Common Man doesn't know...

Gone are the Days of Stalin when RussKies stuck by Clock...Now its IMPERIALISM Maulviji!!